Magic Fire 40W HID 4000-Lumen 4x18650 HID Flashlight

RichS

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pics are taken at diff exposure times........
2 sec difference to be exact..
makes a huge difference in light output.......
Wow, I was pretty bummed seeing the extreme difference in the beamshots until you pointed this out hahoo. I've done what I consider my share of beamshots, and two seconds can add an insane amount of perceived difference from one light to the next. The ONLY way to do beamshots as a means of relative output comparison is to lock all settings - ESPECIALLY the exposure duration. I can make a stock Maglite look like a hotwired beast by increasing the exposure time. Doesn't mean it's real...
 

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If you right click the picture and look under properties.

I now get around this by putting the camera into full manual mode and keeping the shutter, aperture and ISO the same when doing comparisons
It's in the image EXIF information.

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Looks like the Oracle and the Scorpion are both directly comparable as are the other three. However, the last three will seem brighter as a group since their exposure time is 1/6 of a second as opposed to 1/8 of a second for the first two.

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Fixed. There is more difference between the Oracle and MS now. It actually looks more accurately representative of the 6 or 7 Watt difference between the O and MS whereas before, they looked too close. All photos are 6 sec, and F2.7 now. My apologies to everyone.
 
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Looks like the Oracle and the Scorpion are both directly comparable as are the other three. However, the last three will seem brighter as a group since their exposure time is 1/6 of a second as opposed to 1/8 of a second for the first two.

Wilkey

Wilkey, when I just checked again, they all show 6 sec and 2.7. Not sure what you mean 1/6 and 1/8 second?
 

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Wilkey, when I just checked again, they all show 6 sec and 2.7. Not sure what you mean 1/6 and 1/8 second?
That was before you loaded the matching images. Here's what the 1/8 and 1/6 shots look like side-by-side.

Okay, let's try this again. The Oracle shots.

OracleComparoBVH.jpg


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OK, got it, difference existed before I updated correct images. But the one thing I still don't quite get is the "1.6" and "1/8" digits. All shots were either 6 or 8 seconds, none were in fractions of seconds or 1.6 seconds unless I took one and didn't know it.
 

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Doh! That's my error. I'm so used to exposures under a second. I screwed that all up. Actually the image you posted originally appears to have been at 6 seconds. Same as the second. I'm just pulling this from the image information. The only original image that differed was the 8 second exposure of the Oracle. So I guess that explains why the Scorpion before and after images look pretty much identical. That means it's comparable to the last three in the set.

I apologize for the goof. I'm trying to do this while at the same time getting my kids ready for bed, and my wife got back from her class. Guess my concentration just wasn't there.

There is, however, a noticeable difference between the two Oracle shots.

Wilkey
 

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Not to get off the subject. But my package is Inbound Into Customs. Is that good or does it mean that there holding it for some reason?
 

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Not to get off the subject. But my package is Inbound Into Customs. Is that good or does it mean that there holding it for some reason?
It means that Customs and Border Protection have redirected your package on suspicion of contraband such as Cuban cigars, endangered Singaporean fox bats, or methamphetamine.






Or, more likely, that it's on its way through to you once it clears.

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Here's a comparison of all five lights.

BVHComparoSmall.jpg


And a link to the full size image: Clickie

The weirdish thing about the Oracle and Scorpion shots is that the Scorpion lights up the immediate foreground worse than but the intermediate shrubbery better than the Oracle. In fact, this pattern is different than all of the other four lights.

Wilkey

PS. BVH, I worked up these manipulations of these images of yours to make comparisons easier for those following this wave of purchases. Of course you retain all rights and if you request, I will delete them.
 
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Wilkey, thanks for the explanation. I've never been a photography and camera buff but know enough to be dangerous and thought I was missing something simple. I wonder if the bulb hot spot not being in the center of the first corona has something to do with the phenomenon you mention. Thanks for putting those images side by side. It makes it so much easier to compare.
 

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Wilkey, thanks for the explanation. I've never been a photography and camera buff but know enough to be dangerous and thought I was missing something simple. I wonder if the bulb hot spot not being in the center of the first corona has something to do with the phenomenon you mention. Thanks for putting those images side by side. It makes it so much easier to compare.
That's certainly plausible. If you rotated the torch around its axis by 180 degrees and it went away or looked more like the others, that would be a good clue that it's related to the off-centeredness of the bulb.

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It means that Customs and Border Protection have redirected your package on suspicion of contraband such as Cuban cigars, endangered Singaporean fox bats, or methamphetamine.






Or, more likely, that it's on its way through to you once it clears.

Wilkey

Are you being for real? LOL!
 

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Can someone please compare it with The MicroFire Warrior-III (K3500)?



One of the major difference is the body diameter,
It's an important ergonomic factor that haven't been mention in this thread.

I find most 3x18650 type of HID body being too fat to hold comfortably, The magic Fire has 4x18650, thus even fatter.

I think people with smaller hands may soon realize how uncomfortable it may get after holding it for a while.

SSK-33 is very slim for 3x18650 arrangement. They come in stock at 6x28650,
I had to cut it down to 3x18650. Lots of work, but in the end, it's both shorter & slimmer than magic fire.

I find it much more important to have a slim body than extra 5 watts, that's why I have 3x18650 35W Firefox I, but was never interested in the 4x18650 40W version of Firefox II.

Found a reference

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So I've read some online and you are for real. So I probably won't see the light for a month or so. Have anyone had to deal with customs?
 

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Yes, I have to deal with customs as well too. Just call the supplier to check with Dhl why it took so long and Dhl will trace it back to rush the release of the goods.

I deal with Dhl many times and this is the only way to get it released quickly. Hope this helps.
 
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