The Official Zebralight Thread .

[vadimax]

I love my SC600 mk3, and I'm glad they shrunk it down - no wasted space, a marvel of engineering. My LG hg2, Samsung 30q, and Panasonic NCR18650GA cells all fit perfectly, no issues. Just my two cents.

Well, looks like a lottery :thinking: I hope mine will be fine. Got a response from Arjan@NKON and he cannot recall any issues as well. At least their batch is OK

 

[markr6]

I figured the NCR18650GA fit fine in my SC600w HI...I guess it does. But after a while just being in my briefcase I noticed the top was crushed in pretty bad. Just simply from tossing my briefcase into my car rather gently. I can't imagine it was caused by this light, but since I don't swap batteries, it definitely was. I never dropped it or handled it rough.

As long as it's only cosmetic I'm fine with since it's such a great light.

Same with my SC63w.

 

[Swedpat]

I just placed an order for a Zebralight SC600w Mark III from Nkon.

 

[TCY]

I cycle a couple of NCR18650GAs with my Fd Plus and the flat tops have not been crushed at all.

 

[snowlover91]

The battery issue has been discussed at length in other threads before, not sure why it is being rehashed again. Some like it, others don't. Some prefer the pogo pins and see their benefit, others don't like the drawbacks. At the end of the day mine works great, has no reliability issues, and has the benefit of a shorter light. Sometimes you have to push the limit of what's possible and ZL seems to do that fairly frequently. It will be interesting to see what they offer in their MK4 and SC64 series lights and if they go away from the pogo pins or keep them.

 

[markr6]

The battery issue has been discussed at length in other threads before, not sure why it is being rehashed again.

Because I had no issues with pogo pins. I stated in the past my batteries looked fine...now they don't even after light use and no drops.

If you want everyone to never ever post about things in the past, even with a slightly different take or "update", you would have to build your own forum.

 

[snowlover91]

Because I had no issues with pogo pins. I stated in the past my batteries looked fine...now they don't even after light use and no drops.

If you want everyone to never ever post about things in the past, even with a slightly different take or "update", you would have to build your own forum.

My post wasn't directed at you or anyone else but at the overall idea of the debate being rehashed in length again. Pages and pages were spent in multiple threads on it, even some heated debates. It got tiring to the point of the mods having to step in several times... Don't take things so personal

 

[markr6]

I wasn't really taking it personal. It's just an important thing to note IMO. People got bent out of shape on the pogo vs. spring, protected, unprotected, cell length, etc.

But while I defended the design originally, I'm not so sure now. This is a pretty substantial cell crush especially when you consider the use: hardly none at all! It sits in my briefcase which never gets dropped. The most action it sees is me setting it gently on my passenger seat, horizontally. Not even vertically where it could possibly put some force on the cell.

Flat top NCR18650GA - again, when I say I hardly use this light, I mean it. I just don't use it anymore. So for the cell to get like this gives me some concern.

How I carry it in my briefcase

 

[terjee]

Could you get it touch with them (Zebralight) directly, and maybe send in both light and cell?
Would be interesting for them to be able to evaluate a confirmed case of this, and compare your specific light and battery, to see what's up. Pogo pins too long? Threading too far into the light? Battery out of spec?

Simply knowing could put a lot of minds to ease, and offer solutions for those worrying about theirs.

Quick question of my own: did it ever get warm? Either self-heating, or exposed to heat?

 

[markr6]

Could you get it touch with them (Zebralight) directly, and maybe send in both light and cell?

I did ask a while back since I saw some people posting about the 6 vs 3 pins on their SC63. ZL said it wasn't an update. The 6-pin setup was designed for the higher current SC600 Plus only and that the 6-pin on the SC63 was "a mixup during assembly/manufacturing". They didn't really offer any help or advice on the cell getting crushed so I just left it at that.

My SC600 HI did the same thing; basically to the same extent on another 18650GA.

 

[snowlover91]

Hmmm mine isn't dented anything like that. It has a minor dip but nothing quite like that. My Plus model hasn't dented any of the cells, only my HI model has. I'm thinking they worked out the kinks and variances since it's release but I might would see about getting ZL to replace it.

 

[Swedpat]

Today I received Zebralight SC600w III. Awesome light! It's very compact for a single 18650 light, actually not very much bigger than SC5. I earlier wondered if I should have ordered the HI option instead but the hotspot is wide and powerful so for an allround light I don't think I need it. Apart from that I guess that the slightly larger reflector provides better throw at a given output compared to SC5, because the LEDs seem to be very similar size.
The tint is very warm, actually warmer than I expected. It feels considerably warmer than SC5w, despite almost the same stated tint. The tint is actually very different in color so it's a bit difficult to compare. If there is anything I wish had been different with this light I wish M1 level had been twice as what it's now, I think it's too big difference between M1 and H1. Otherwise I am satisfied with it.

Here is a comparison to SC5 and Surefire E1L Outdoorsman which shows how small SC600 III is!




SC5w to left and SC600w III to right:

 

[markr6]

If there is anything I wish had been different with this light I wish M1 level had been twice as what it's now, I think it's too big difference between M1 and H1.

I totally agree. It's even worse (more pronounced) on the HI version. Luckily, when I'm using the HI it's as a mini thrower, so H1 is usually the case.

 

[ven]

Very nice Swedpat got to love these little ZL's Got the sc63w 4500k xhp 35 today myself and really like it(next will be the xhp50).




My 2

Clip is a little shiny/blingy

xp-l2 hi cri/ xhp35 4500k

 

[Swedpat]

ven,

O yeah, sc63 is even more compact than SC600 III! I just wonder about the lack of knurling: isn't it slippery? Also I think the heat dissipation isn't as good because of the smaller mass. But this is only an issue if running the light at the highest or next highest level for extended period, I guess.

 

[markr6]

I find the SC63w easy to hold. The clip gives it a lot of grip, otherwise it would be too slippery. It gets hot fast and usually starts stepping down after 10-15 seconds (maybe a little sooner/longer depending on ambient temp)

 

[ven]

Compared to the D4 it's super grippy :laughing:. As mark said, no issue re- being slippy . I think the design maybe love/hate and a small part of the reason I decided on this one next. It's super light, feels nice in hand. The clip is decent other than being shiny(not for me, prefer the sc5c clip but subjective ).

It certainly kicks out a lot of light, handles heat very well considering it's size. I really like it, if ever an 18650 light could be used for EDC, this has to be up there with very few compact 18650 fed lights.

I cant believe I have waited so long for a ZL , amount I have read and pondered (Mark6 played a huge part). Along with the design, LED choices and trick driver, the nice green ano also is a strong point for me. They are not cheap compared to some well known brands , but there is a lot stuffed into the small/ light package!

 

[TCY]

That ano on your SC63W looks oily/greasy, definitely shiner than that of my SC600Fd plus and SC62w but I'm sure they are of high quality. I've seen greasy looking ZL ano before, dunno what's the cause. Temperature?
Comparison:

 

[ven]

Yes it is shiny, picks up light easy anyway. The sc5c mkII looks the same mat as your sc600fd which will be my next ZL

 

[roger-roger]

The SC32w is not currently listed at ZL.