Sold/Expired [WTB] Surefire Aviator White/Red

Looking for a Surefire Aviator White/Red LED or possibly Amber.

Sean said:

Looking for a Surefire Aviator White/Red LED or possibly Amber/YG.

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What a sweet light this was. Should have never been discontinued.

For me it looks like the Aviator in red is still available @ Surefire

I've still seen these around but I'm having a hard time deciding what color I want. Surefire.com seems to be the only one selling every color option.

Sean said:

I've still seen these around but I'm having a hard time deciding what color I want. Surefire.com seems to be the only one selling every color option.

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Yes, that is something I understand


(Four Aviators and HDS Rotaries in green/yellow-green, blue, red, amber... I could not decide )

WarriorOfLight said:

Yes, that is something I understand

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Yea I've seen your pics! But they didn't help me decide! 😉 What's the practical difference between Amber and red? Can you point red, blue and green together and make white? 😀

From a practical standpoint what are your usage requirements OR are you a collector seeking to make a purchase? 🤔

Low light night adapted vision?
Blood or body fluid detection?

Low light night adapted vision.

I've used red lights with 660nm LEDs Which work well for that. Apart from dark adapted vision, red is not the greatest for actually seeing things.
Apparently amber works pretty well also, with the benefit of being able to see things a little better.
The aviator isn't the reddest of red LEDs, it'd look a bit orange next to a 660nm LED.
Out of the aviators I'd go amber or yellow green. I'd be interested in the red if it were 660nm.
I'm currently looking for a yellow green (first choice).

F89 said:

I've used red lights with 660nm LEDs Which work well for that. Apart from dark adapted vision, red is not the greatest for actually seeing things.
Apparently amber works pretty well also, with the benefit of being able to see things a little better.
The aviator isn't the reddest of red LEDs, it'd look a bit orange next to a 660nm LED.
Out of the aviators I'd go amber or yellow green. I'd be interested in the red if it were 660nm.
I'm currently looking for a yellow green (first choice).

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I don't have any measurements, but the head is marked 633 for red.

That'd be 633nm. Not so red compared to 660nm.
I like the deep red (660nm). It's supposed to be about the best wavelength for red light and preserving dark adapted vision.

F89 said:

I've used red lights with 660nm LEDs Which work well for that. Apart from dark adapted vision, red is not the greatest for actually seeing things.
Apparently amber works pretty well also, with the benefit of being able to see things a little better.
The aviator isn't the reddest of red LEDs, it'd look a bit orange next to a 660nm LED.
Out of the aviators I'd go amber or yellow green. I'd be interested in the red if it were 660nm.
I'm currently looking for a yellow green (first choice).

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Yea I've been leaning towards red or amber but I know I would like yellow/green just wasn't sure how "bright" it really is and if it would mess up your night adapted vison. The Y/G runtime is hard to believe how long it is. I stupidly passed up a Y/G on ebay for like $160 because I wasn't sure what color I wanted yet.

Here a pictureof the manual I took years ago for a german review:



At first I only had the Red and Amber Aviator, because red keeps the nicht Adaption of the human eye perfectly. The amber keeps also the nicht Adaption, but bot as good as red. Amber is also good in steamy or foggy situations.

Later the yellow green was following because of that high runtime. Additionally the yellow green seems very bright, this is because the sensitivity of the human eye is in the Green area.

I have the blue Aviator only because I like blue and the price was los. I do bot have a real usecase for blue. It is also because having all 4 Colors...

Red is definitely the top choice for maintaining dark adapted vision in my experience. Although even white light at low moonlight levels can be acceptable.
Using a deep red 660nm LED I found that I could use quite high levels of brightness and still maintain my dark adapted vision. However, best practice is to use as little light as necessary.

Well I've decided just to buy one, or two.