Top list - The most discussed flashlights of the past 12 months

kreisl · Jul 8, 2012

The most discussed flashlights of the past 12 months

"?"-column: q = questionable. kreis105 suggestion has not been 100% fully adopted in the present firmware version 1.05, hmm. therefore suggesting again as kreis106 suggestion for FW1.06.

p#	?	parameter settings	MC3000 firmware FW1.07	iMax B6mini firmware 1.10	iCharger 106B+ firmware 3.14	kreis107 suggestion for FW1.08	DC2 comments
01		NiMH MODES	{Charge\| Refresh\| Break_in\| Discharge\| Cycle}	{Charge\| Discharge\| Cycle}	{Charge\| Discharge\| Cycle\| Forming_charge}	unchanged
02		NiMH CHARGE rate	{0.05\|0.06\|…\|2.99\|3.00}A	{0.1\|0.2\|…\|5.9\|6.0}A	{0.05\|0.06\|…\|0.1\|0.2\|…\|9.9\|10.0}A	unchanged
03		NiMH CHARGE capacity cut-off	{OFF\|100\|200\|…\|49900\|50000}mAh safety factor=1.0 for DCHG safety factor=1.0 for CHG	{OFF\|100\|200\|…\|49900\|50000}mAh safety factor=1.0	{OFF\|100\|200\|…\|99800\|99900}mAh safety factor=1.0	unchanged
04		NiMH CHARGE alt. algorithms	N/A	{CHARGE Man\|CHARGE Auto}	{CHARGE Man\|CHARGE Auto}	unchanged	Whatzz Man
05		NiMH CHARGE delta peak	{0dV\|1\|2\|3\|4\|…\|19\|20}mV	{4\|5\|…\|14\|15}mV NiMH RE-PEAK {1\|2\|3} NiCd RE-PEAK {1\|2\|3} PEAK DELAY {OFF\|1\|2\|…\|5}min	NiMH {1\|2\|3\|4\|…\|19\|20}mV NiCd {1\|2\|…\|8\|…\|19\|20}mV	unchanged	voltage plateau "0△V"
06		NiMH CHARGE trickle charge	{OFF\|10\|20\|…\|290\|300}mA	{OFF\|50\|51\|…\|299\|300}mA	{OFF\|10\|20\|…\|490\|500}mA	unchanged	same for NiCd, OFF for NiZn
07		NiMH CHARGE target voltage	{1.47\|1.48\|…\|1.79\|1.80}V	N/A	N/A	unchanged
08		NiMH CHARGE restart voltage	{OFF\|1.30\|1.31\|…\|1.44\|1.45}V	N/A	N/A	unchanged
09		NiMH DISCHARGE rate	{-0.05\|-0.06\|…\|-1.99\|-2.00}A	{0.1\|0.2\|…\|1.9\|2.0}A	{0.05\|0.06\|…\|0.1\|0.2\|…\|6.9\|7.0}A	unchanged
10		NiMH DISCHARGE delta peak	{OFF}	N/A	N/A	unchanged
11		NiMH DISCHARGE delta peak	{OFF}	N/A	N/A	unchanged
12		NiMH DISCHARGE cut-off volts	{0.10\|0.11\|…\|1.09\|1.10}V	{0.1\|0.2\|…\|1.0\|1.1}V/Cell	{0.1\|0.2\|…\|28.9\|29.0}V	unchanged
13		NiMH DISCHARGE reduce	{-Zero\|-0.01\|-0.02\|-0.03\|…\|-1.98\|-1.99\|OFF}A	N/A	{OFF\|5\|6\|…\|99\|100}%	unchanged
14		NiMH CYCLE number	{1\|2\|…\|98\|99}	{1\|2\|…\|4\|5}	{1\|2\|…\|998\|999}	unchanged	memory
15		NiMH CYCLE modes	{C>D\|C>D>C\|D>C\|D>C>D}	{D>C\|C>D}	{D>C\|C>D}	unchanged
16		NiMH BREAK_IN current	CHG = 0.1C fixed to 2 decimals DCHG = -0.2C fixed to 2 decimals	N/A	N/A ( FORMING CHARGE ≠ BREAK_IN )	unchanged
17		NiMH BREAK_IN cut-off volts	{0.10\|0.11\|…\|1.09\|1.10}V	N/A	N/A	unchanged
44		NiMH BREAK_IN mode	{C>D>C\|D>C>D}	N/A	N/A	unchanged
18		NiMH BREAK_IN rest time	{0\|1\|2\|…\|239\|240}min for CHG {0\|1\|2\|…\|239\|240}min for DCHG	N/A	N/A	unchanged	default: 60min
19		Temperature cut-off	{OFF\|20\|21\|…\|69\|70}°C {OFF\|68\|69\|…\|157\|158}°F	{OFF\|20\|21\|…\|79\|80}°C {OFF\|68\|69\|71\|…\|174\|176}°F	{OFF\|20\|21\|…\|79\|80}°C {OFF\|68\|69\|…\|175\|176}°F	unchanged	battery
20		Time cut-off	{OFF\|1\|2\|…\|1439\|1440}min	{OFF\|1\|2\|…\|719\|720}min	{OFF\|1\|2\|…\|998\|999}min	unchanged	total time
21		Rest Time	{0\|1\|2\|…\|239\|240}min for CHG {0\|1\|2\|…\|239\|240}min for DCHG	{1\|2\|…\|60}min	{0\|1\|2\|…\|60}min	unchanged
22	q	Output limit	N/A	Max Power Set: {50\|51\|…\|59\|60}W	Discharge: {5\|10\|15\|20}W Charge: {Auto\|50\|60\|…\|250}W	:thinking:	fancy
23		Input limit	min volts: {10.0\|10.1\|…\|11.9\|12.0}V	min volts: {10.0\|10.1\|…\|10.9\|11.0}V	min volts: {10.0\|10.1\|…\|14.9\|15.0}V max amps: {1\|2\|…\|21\|22}A	unchanged	KISS
24		Back-light	{Auto\|1\|3\|5\|ALWAYS ON\|OFF}min	{Always On}	{0\|5\|10\|…\|95\|100}%	unchanged
25		Cooling Fan	{Auto\|OFF\|ON\|20\|25\|…\|45\|50}°C {Auto\|OFF\|ON\|68\|77\|…\|113\|122}°F	{Auto}	{OFF\|Auto\|ON}	unchanged
26		Beep Sound	pitch {OFF\|1\|2\|…\|15\|16}	Key stroke {ON\|OFF} Buzzer {ON\|OFF}	Key stroke {ON\|OFF} Buzzer {ON\|OFF} Completion {5×\|3min\|Always\|OFF}	unchanged	two octaves
27		Settings-saved User Programs	{01\|02\|…\|29\|30}	{1\|2\|…\|9\|10}	{00\|01\|…\|08\|09}	unchanged
28		LITHIUM MODES	{Charge\| Refresh\| Storage\| Discharge\| Cycle}	{Charge\| Storage\| Discharge}	{Charge\| Storage\| Discharge\| Cycle\| Monitor}	unchanged
29		LITHIUM CHARGE rate	{0.05\|0.06\|…\|2.99\|3.00}A	{0.1\|0.2\|…\|5.9\|6.0}A	{0.05\|0.06\|…\|0.1\|0.2\|…\|9.9\|10.0}A	unchanged
30		LITHIUM DISCHARGE rate	{-0.05\|-0.06\|…\|-1.99\|-2.00}A	{0.1\|0.2\|…\|1.9\|2.0}A	{0.05\|0.06\|…\|0.1\|0.2\|…\|6.9\|7.0}A	unchanged	restrictions apply
31		LiIon CHARGE target voltage	{4.00\|4.01\|…\|4.24\|4.25}V	Lilo {4.08\|4.09\|…\|4.19\|4.20}V LiPo {4.18\|4.19\|…\|4.24\|4.25}V	Lilo {3.90\|3.91\|…\|4.19\|4.20}V LiPo {4.00\|4.01\|…\|4.29\|4.30}V	unchanged	4.20V
41a		LiIon CHARGE restart voltage	{OFF\|3.98\|3.99\|…\|4.17\|4.18}V	N/A	N/A	unchanged
32		LiIon STORAGE voltage	{3.65\|3.66\|…\|3.99\|4.00}V	Lilo {3.70V} LiPo {3.80V}	Lilo {3.75V} LiPo {3.85V}	unchanged	3.80V
33		LiIon DISCHARGE cut-off	{2.50\|2.51\|…\|3.64\|3.65}V	Lilo {2.9\|3.0\|3.1\|3.2}V LiPo {3.0\|3.1\|3.2\|3.3}V	Lilo {2.50\|2.51\|…\|4.09\|4.10}V LiPo {3.00\|3.01\|…\|4.19\|4.20}V	unchanged	3.00V
34		LiIo4.35 CHARGE target voltage	{4.10\|4.11\|…\|4.39\|4.40}V	N/A	N/A	unchanged	4.35V
41b		LiIo4.35 CHARGE restart voltage	{OFF\|4.08\|4.09\|…\|4.32\|4.33}V	N/A	N/A	unchanged
35		LiIo4.35 STORAGE voltage	{3.75\|3.76\|…\|4.09\|4.10}V	N/A	N/A	unchanged	3.90V
36		LiIo4.35 DISCHARGE cut-off	{2.65\|2.66\|…\|3.74\|3.75}V	N/A	N/A	unchanged	3.30V
37		LiFe CHARGE target voltage	{3.40\|3.41\|…\|3.64\|3.65}V	{3.58\|3.59\|…\|3.69\|3.70}V	{3.40\|3.41\|…\|3.89\|3.90}V	unchanged	3.60V
41c		LiFe CHARGE restart voltage	{OFF\|3.38\|3.39\|…\|3.57\|3.58}V	N/A	N/A	unchanged
38		LiFe STORAGE voltage	{3.15\|3.16\|…\|3.39\|3.40}V	{3.30V}	{3.30V}	unchanged	3.30V
39		LiFe DISCHARGE cut-off	{2.00\|2.01\|…\|3.14\|3.15}V	{2.6\|2.7\|2.8\|2.9}V	{2.00\|2.01\|…\|3.59\|3.60}V	unchanged	2.90V
40		LITHIUM CHARGE termination	{Zero\|0.01\|0.02\|…\|2.98\|2.99\|OFF}A	{0.1C\|0.2C}	{0.1C\|0.2C}	unchanged
45		LITHIUM DISCHARGE reduce	{-Zero\|-0.01\|-0.02\|…\|-1.98\|-1.99\|OFF}A	N/A	{OFF\|5\|6\|…\|99\|100}%	unchanged	restrictions apply
42		LITHIUM CYCLE modes	{C>D\|C>D>C\|D>C\|D>C>D}	N/A	{D>C\|C>D}	unchanged
43		LITHIUM CYCLE number	{1\|2\|…\|98\|99}	N/A	{1\|2\|…\|998\|999}	unchanged	memory

more detailed notes:

y(x) = b + m*x	SLOT#1	SLOT#2	SLOT#3	SLOT#4
NiMH vertices	-2.28526 + 1.01459*x	6.18635 + 0.993133*x	-7.37368 + 1.02647*x	-3.85048 + 0.986388*x
NiMH regression	-1.94549 + 1.01478*x	7.27019 + 0.992784*x	-6.68242 + 1.02620*x	-2.50386 + 0.986388*x
LiIon vertices	-1.49737 + 1.01390*x	6.77945 + 0.991513*x	-6.73327 + 1.02492*x	-3.01876 + 0.982359*x
LiIon regression	-1.14895 + 1.01324*x	7.77560 + 0.991026*x	-7.37074 + 1.02477*x	-1.55080 + 0.982172*x

biglights · Jul 8, 2012

WOW, that is some heavy info. Nice work :twothumbs

kreisl · Jul 8, 2012

kreisl said:
i have 2pcs of TF18350, i'll do the same test np. identical program number in slot4 and slot1. will also do continuous logging with latest dex jar

here are my test results, learning as i am typing. once i've finished writing this post, i'll and you'll learn if i got the same prob as the op, so let's see:

#1 : [01]
spv: "CYCLE 1: 674mAh / CYCLE 2: 674mAh / Capacity: 675mAh"
"CYCLE 1: -2.46Wh / CYCLE 2: -2.46Wh / Energy: -2.466Wh" (lil bug, all three numbers should be displayed with 3 decimals)
tov: "mah: 675"

dex: (D) > C > D > C > D = (D) > 667mAh > -674mAh > 668mAh > -674mAh (and 8mins later in the log: -675mAh wth)
dex: (D) > C > D > C > D = (D) > 2.618Wh > -2.468Wh > 2.625Wh > -2.466Wh

perfect energy result. dex calculated energy is the same as mc3k (and as excel). am not sure why the capacity counter went up by 1mAh after the program had finished. will investigate. actually, at the time of writing tov now shows 677mAh

#4 : [01]
spv: "CYCLE 1: 438mAh / CYCLE 2: 427mAh / Capacity: 427mAh"
"CYCLE 1: -1.53Wh / CYCLE 2: -1.49Wh / Energy: -1.491Wh" (lil bug, all three numbers should be displayed with 3 decimals)
tov: "mah: 427"

(D) > C > D > C > D = (D) > 476mAh > -438mAh > 451mAh > -427mAh (and 60mins+ later in the log: -427mAh, unchanged)
(D) > C > D > C > D = (D) > 1.918Wh > -1.538Wh > 1.825Wh > -1.492Wh

i'll call this also a perfect energy result. The 0.001Wh difference comes from differing numerics in coding (integer, float, double, round). the lcd shows as expected 427mAh, the result of the final Discharge routine, and even hours later the lcd still shows correctly 427mAh.

biglights · Jul 8, 2012

kreisl said:
thanks biglights!

i plan to update this interesting top list once in a while when i observe major or plenty changes in either list. The Nitecore E-series has certain potential to enter the Front Page or the Reviews Top 20, imho.

I agree I have the EC1 and it is pretty awesome! Was thinking about getting the EA2 or maybe wait for EC2.

This list must of took a lot of time.

kreisl · Jul 8, 2012

i got my USB cables today and here are some measurements by me:

green braided FT cable, 94cm 20g 3.4mm 6.60mm 5.55A notes
white original J5 cable, 71cm 16g 5.6mm 3.00mm
white original(?) Note3 cable, 95cm 5.9mm, 25g 4.0mm
black original Tomtom cable, 144cm, ~35.5g 3.5mm 5.85mm
blue authentic Remax cable, 45g, 94cm 3.7mm x 13.3mm 6.03mm

	transfer	length	quality		thickness	micro	tomo
white original J5 USB cable	data	71cm	16g	0.225	3.00mm	5.6mm	1.40A/1.30A	feels light, thin
white original(?) Note3 USB cable	data	95cm	25g	0.263	4.0mm	5.9mm	1.26A
green braided FT USB cable	data	94cm	20g	0.213	3.4mm	6.60mm	0.78A/0.64A
black original Tomtom USB cable	data	144cm	35.5g	0.247	3.5mm	5.85mm	0.88A/0.73A
blue authentic Remax USB cable	data	94cm	45g	0.479	3.7mm×13.3mm	6.03mm	1.75A/0.60A
white original Pebble USB cable	charge	19.5cm	12g	0.615	4.00mm	6.1mm	1.75A/1.75A
black original Powerchimp USB cable	charge	56cm	11.5g	0.205	1.54mm×5.20mm	6.00mm	1.50A/1.50A
black Manker U11 USB cable	charge	35cm	10g	0.286	3.3mm	6.0mm	1.50A
black Xtar MC1 USB cable	charge	77cm	15g	0.195	3.0mm	6.0mm	0.90A
black Liitokala Lii-100 USB cable	charge	58cm	18g	0.310	3.5mm	6.40mm	1.74A

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Str8ShooterEsq · Jul 8, 2012

Excellent idea. Thanks for posting this.

LAB · Jul 8, 2012

Son of beech, sheet! How long did it take you to aquire all this info?

tickled · Jul 8, 2012

Some of the ones on the list like the Q50 don't actually exist.

tobrien · Jul 8, 2012

nice work!

tatasal · Jul 8, 2012

Any kind of reply is counted? Regardless of topic? ( negative or positive / praises or complaints )

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