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    Default Re: GatLight SIGN UP FOR ROUND 2

    That would be GREAT!!!!!


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    Default Re: GatLight SIGN UP FOR ROUND 2

    When do you think you might know if the Ti will be satin finish or polished?

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    Default Re: GatLight SIGN UP FOR ROUND 2

    This depends on 2 things:

    a) We can find polished rods
    b) People prefer polished to satin

    I'll send out an email asking people who ordered TI what they prefer. If they prefer polished we go and see if we can find them... What is your preference?

    Anybody else who ordered Titanium maybe they can post what they prefer? So far opinion seems split...

    (We got a lot of orders for this second run but quite a few didn't post here, or aren't following the thread - so I might have to email them).

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    I like the way the polished steel looks but like the idea of Ti and the weight difference. On a couple of photos of the Ti version it looked like there was a long mark that was caused by insertion through the disks. I guess that aspect of the build process wouldn't show as much on polished Ti or steel. So my preference would be polished Ti.

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    Order placed - 1x S Pila 168 size + cell + int. shipping.

    Can't wait for next easter !

    Cheers

    PS - having never seen the light in the flesh so to speak, the only components whose durability I wonder about the silicon seals. Any plans to make spares of these available up front in case of damage etc ?
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    ok we'll see whether we can find some polished TI bar... maybe we can make it an option (but no promises). Regarding the Silicone Seals, for this run we'll have them manufactured, the most expensive part is the mold - so we should have many extra seals...

    Regarding marks - polished bars shouldn't show any marks (like the stainless versions), the disadvantage with the satin is that they can leave small marks when pressed through the rings - however in reality I noticed they are not noticable. You can see them a little bit with high resolution photos that fill the entire screen.


    We are currently also looking in adding a couple of extra features... but since none of them are prototype tested yet I don't want to raise any hopes...

    We are currently in a critical phase any changes to the design need to be done this week before Kyle will finish it up in order to have some prototypes created.

    Some minor changes (that don't need prototyping) we have implemented so far (inspired by Amorphous's suggestions)
    -In the back the screws that hold the battery lid will be round and the heads of these 3 screws are about half as high then in the last run (to create a lower profile and simplify knob operation).
    -In the front ring/bezel or rim where the light exits, we have added a (chamfer) or angle to allow more light to exit through the front.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobile1
    By the way we will most likely add a distinctive but very smooth clicking mechanism (ball bearing based) to the knob for this second run (prototype tests pending).... should provide a nice feel when turning the knob.
    That'll be nice. By the way, I forgot to mention (and not sure if anyone has noticed or mentioned before) that one can actually get 'momentary' light activation by turning the switch knob back just a bit after the on position & pressing down on the knob.

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    Thinking MAJOR DESIGN CHANGE - DISCUSSION

    KYLE AND I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS quite a DRAMATIC DESIGN CHANGE. Now this is a bit of a bad point in time to do that (since so far we have about 65 orders (guess) - however we bumped into this by chance and thought it just looked too cool to not run it by you guys...

    So what do you think if we change the LOOK to this - unless the majority of you guys like it we won't do it.... but we think it looks better...

    First here a rendering of the light WITH the DESIGN CHANGE (and black hex screws)


    or here another one of the new design


    THEN HERE A RENDERING old version (TOP) in comparision to new (BOTTOM)


    SO THE QUESTION: What do you like better, NEW DESIGN (rounded) or OLD ONE or YOU DON[T CARE
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    Default Re: GatLight SIGN UP FOR ROUND 2

    The new design is very nice!! Surprising what a difference like that can make. Just looks more refined!!

    Hmmm, did I order stainless flat phillips screws - those black hex screws sure look good!! I'd better go back to take a look at all those pictures!!

    Keep up the good work!!
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    Default Re: GatLight SIGN UP FOR ROUND 2

    I like it....I agree about my having ordered the philips heads screws however...might prefer the hex, balck of stainless if that is an option....



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    Curves are sexy!

    I like the redesign.

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    I like the new design as well. I also like the look of those Hex screws, and I ordered one with philips and one with Hex, and I think I want to change them both to Hex (still debating between black and silver).

    What is the best e-mail to send an order change to, and what information do you want to be included in such an e-mail. Sorry if I have opened a can of worms.

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    Mobile1:

    I don't speak for the majority but I would say don't ask and just do it. The new design is a refined improvement. Please proceed immediately.

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    Evilgrin07 Re: GatLight SIGN UP FOR ROUND 2

    i'm going to go against the majority (so far), and say i like the straight/angular version.

    however, i'll take either way you do it, because i'm sending in paypal today

    there is one question i did want to ask... is there a definite difference in light output between the 168S and 123 versions? and.. will there be a 168S AL version in the works?
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    Default Re: GatLight SIGN UP FOR ROUND 2

    Hi Yellow thanks for your comment (my wife actually prefers straight as well). The light output is the same for both versions, runtime is about 2.5 times longer for the 168S.

    So far we don't offer a 168S version since we suspect that the AL bars will be too weak. However we have a 168S AL prototype manufactured soon - to test this assumption.

    Changes to your order (screws) please email them to orders at gatlight.com .

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    Default Re: GatLight SIGN UP FOR ROUND 2 (design-change!)

    As long as the new design will not delay production at all, that's fine...otherwise, I'm totally fine with the old style and would prefer that to waiting (longer).

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    Default Re: GatLight SIGN UP FOR ROUND 2 (design-change!)

    Time and costs will stay the same (but we finish up the design this week). Of course if we decide to do the new one (still need to hear back from someone who ordered quite a few lights) and someone doesnt like the new design but signed up already - we would offer a refund.

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    Just put my order in for one 123 stainless... I don't care what you do with the design, they both look great.

    Congrats on a cool looking light.

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    for 1 stainles steel cr123 version.

    I like the new design much better. It will give me a good place to epoxy some tritium vials. I'm having a really tough time trying to find a safe place for some tritium on the original design.
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    Walter,

    Please consider adding a clip for this awesome light will be very cool. More people can carry it and will showcase to others. I think McGizmo's Ti clip is beautiful if you can provide two pre-drilled holes on the battery end as an option so folks can buy the clip if they desired.

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    I like the revised design. Go for it !

    Thanks for asking.
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    I like it very much, please go ahead with it.

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    Default Re: GatLight SIGN UP FOR ROUND 2 (design-change!)

    I agree with Amorphous about the clip, even as an after market option, because I would like to have the option to put one on my round one light as well.

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    I want it on a walnut stand with a globe over it, displayed on my mantle!
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    Default Re: GatLight SIGN UP FOR ROUND 2 (design-change!)

    Thanks everyone for the feedback...

    By the way I also set up a poll regarding the design change here. Before we make a decision however I am still waiting to hear back from someone overseas who ordered quite a few lights. But so far the poll of people who signed up as well as the poll (in the thread above) seem to favor the new design (so good chances for you Jim to place the Tritium vials!!

    Then good news regarding the Titanium version, Kyle found polished Titanium rods!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mobile1
    Then good news regarding the Titanium version, Kyle found polished Titanium rods!!!
    You guys are determined to part me from my $$. Just wondering, what Ti alloy are the rods?

    Oh and the pocket clip is a non starter for me. The lines are clean now but a clip would mess that up IMO.

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    Default Re: GatLight SIGN UP FOR ROUND 2 (design-change!)

    The Titanium we are using is 99.2% Pure it is not an alloy. In this design there is no need for an alloy. Besides alloys look more like stainless then the grey titanium everyone is used to.

    Here is another rendering of the new look (back)


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    Default Re: GatLight SIGN UP FOR ROUND 2 (design-change!)

    The carry clip? I don't think there is a need. My Gatlights aren't going to be hanging on my belt getting banged into everything. The design is fine without, IMO. If you want it hanging, loop a length of parachute cord about it and tie it off. Crude but safe and, you don't ruin the esthetics of the body shape for the need to show it off. If I'm going to show it, I want it to be shone with my hand firmly on it. By the by, while I posted earlier about the new design---I like it alright but, it has moved from the original Gattling Light concept of being reminicent of that era and design and now, is more futuristic. I say leave it as it was but, again, that's my opinion. I still want my next two!



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    Default Re: GatLight SIGN UP FOR ROUND 2 (design-change!)

    Admittedly I have not ordered one of these lights, but I think the new design is quite dramatic and simply stunning (in pictures anyhow). Great light you have here.. wish I could justify getting one of these as well as the Chameleon I already committed to ordering! Both lights look fantastic!@$#

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    Default Re: GatLight SIGN UP FOR ROUND 2 (design-change!)

    Thanks well in reality the light is pretty small - so I think the change won't be as noticable as it is in the renderings.... but we'll see. still want to hear from more people...

    Regarding the Screws - Kyle got samples of each screw in. Here is what he noticed - however that is his taste.
    1) The black Oxide & Stainless HEX look the best to his opinion-shiny and nice contrast.
    2) The brass color looks nice, however they are slot (-) screws which is less symetrical, and the finish is not as shiny as with the others.
    3) The round non flat philips screws he thinks don't go very well with the design...

    Here is a photo each screw inserted in a stainless of the first run (sorry about the bad quality - we'll see whether we can take some better quality photos).

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