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    Default Who has actually used the "Tactical" aspect of their torch?

    So how many people actually have had to use their light in a "Tactical" manner? I am using "tactical" in a self-defense type of way.

    I know that one of the selling features of these lights is that they can be momentarily blinding and or bludgeoning someone. Neither of which I have got the opportunity to do... er I mean had the need to do. I can only see three ways it could be used as self-defense.

    Temporarily blind someone
    Hold in your hand to give your punch some extra oomph
    Swing on the lanyard like a mace

    We all trust these lights to help us out in a bad situation but would they really give us much of an edge?

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    Many times on traffic stops I'll pop (defined as momentary flash of the light) the passenger in the eyes (I'm always on night shifts and always approach on the passenger side) just so I have a second or two to check their hands and immediate area without them knowing where I am or what I'm doing while my partner deals with the driver.
    I use one of the following for this purpose:
    SL 20-X LED
    SL Stinger XT
    SL Strion
    Pelican M6 LED
    Mag Charger or
    Mag 3D
    depending on what is available in the car and at beginning of shift.

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    Default Re: Who has actually used the "Tactical" aspect of their torch?

    I snuck up on a dark room once, but when I got there it was gone.
    Just one more light and my collection is complete! Ok, maybe two..

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    Default Re: Who has actually used the "Tactical" aspect of their torch?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pydpiper
    I snuck up on a dark room once, but when I got there it was gone.
    Carry a Minimag with you next time. I'm sure you would find it then.

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    Default Re: Who has actually used the "Tactical" aspect of their torch?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pydpiper
    I snuck up on a dark room once, but when I got there it was gone.
    I wonder where it went!
    Afraid of the light, maybe?

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    Default Re: Who has actually used the "Tactical" aspect of their torch?

    Haven't used any of mine, but I have trained with my TL-2 in night fire exercises quite a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pydpiper
    I snuck up on a dark room once, but when I got there it was gone.
    That is funny. Can I use that in my SPY ads?

    Cheers
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    Not that this was a life or death situation, but my friend was dealing with one of his drunk "friends" a few months ago and the "friend" got really upset and began to challenge my friend to a fight. The guy would not back down he wanted to fight so badly, so as he was approaching my friend pushing and whatnot, my buddy pulled out his Mclux III PD and blasted him in the eyes with it at full power. This made the "friend" recoil each time and kept him at bay. I thought it was a great story.

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    Never "whacked" a person, but many times while patrolling and finding suspicious activity, have lit them up to the point that they immediately leave or at least try to make out like they weren't up to anything at all.
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    A few years back I had a job as a security guard at a shelter for refugees. When doing my rounds during a nightshift I came across 2 men fighting. I tried to calm them down, but they did not speak dutch/english/french or german so I couldn't really communicate with them...
    When one of them pulled out a razor (the old folding type) I felt it was time to take action. I decided not to wait for my backup and whacked razorguy over the head with my magcharger. He went down immediately. The other guy was pretty quick to grab the dropped razor and jumped at me. He was too close for me to swing the mag at him, so I jabbed him in the throat with the mags tailcap. Not hard but just enough to have him grasp for air. Worked him to the ground before he could recover and cuffed him with a heavy duty zip-tie. While I was doing that my colleagues arrived, they were just in time to cuff the other one who was starting to wake up from his mag induced nap and hand the 2 individuals over to our friends from the local police.

    not really tactical... but the maglite saved my ass.
    ... Never underestimate the power of human stupidity ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Data
    That is funny. Can I use that in my SPY ads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pydpiper
    It'll cost ya..

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    Very much like our member Blazer, I use my flashlight regularly during traffic stops at night...

    As I approach the vehicle, i'll use it to illuminate the interior allowing me to view the numbers of occupants and what they're doing...

    then switch it momentarily off....

    They always expect me to go to the driver's window...and BOOM...i'm there at the passenger one..

    Always makes 'em jump...and keep 'em one step behind me....!..

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    i used the Tactical part of one of my lights. Hit the back switch as i was looking at the light end. Was blind for about 30 seconds.

    Rob


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    Good story Maycooper. Glad no one was hurt, especially you.

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    Default Re: Who has actually used the "Tactical" aspect of their torch?

    Quote Originally Posted by MayCooper
    the other one who was starting to wake up from his mag induced nap.

    I love it!
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    Not sure how "tactical" this is but ahh hell, i was night hiking the other night, (my new hobby) i looked up the path a little bit and there was a pretty good sized coyote. i had my c3 (beamshaped) on to light up my path but i had the mag74 in my other hand. i made some "shoo" "get outta here" noises and i think he thought that was pretty funny cause he started walking towords me. i really didnt need that kind of friend at the moment so i gave him a shot of mag74 in the eyes. he let out a yelp and ran off, i had to giggle a little bit, how silly animals can be. then again if someone 4 times my size lit me up with a light so bright that i could feel the heat on my face ..... i'd probably let out a yelp and run away as well lol!
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    I had a friend who did just the opposite. He had his spotlight on a guy who was running away. It was down a steep embankment and he was not going to chase him.
    After a few seconds he turned the light off.
    It's hard to run in the dark.
    The guy said that if my friend left the light on he would walk to the patrol car.

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    Nightly

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    Apart from using my M6 and 6p regularly on night shifts searching for disturbed burglary suspects, I also use it as previously mentioned when doing drug searches as a momentary flash to give me time to assess for any weapons or threats.

    When I used to have my ASP triad light, I once used it to blind a guy who was stealing alloy rims off a car one night.

    I snuck up on him and challenged him, he was a big fella and squared up to me when he saw he was cornered. This earned him a flash in the eyes and before his eyes readjusted he was in rigid handcuffs.
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    I found an intruder in our back yard, thats when the Blaster Flashlight
    came in handy, pointed it at his face and told him to get going on his way

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    Quote Originally Posted by TORCH_BOY
    I found an intruder in our back yard, thats when the Blaster Flashlight
    came in handy, pointed it at his face and told him to get going on his way
    Where in Australia are you Torch_Boy?

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    encountered a bar brawl while working, took out my 6P with the p60 lamp and tried to blind the most violent guy but it didn't really work on him and kept on advancing towards me. i had to back off a little and took out a mag 3D ready for a swing at him then he backed off.
    i think lights don't blind violent drunkards or the 6P is not enough.

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    Kids drinking and smoking pot in a nearby park tend to scurry away when hit with spotlight from 100yards away. Done this a dozen or more times, especially back in the mid-90's in the years after I moved here.

    Christmas eve I hit a group of nearly twenty teens fighting and trying to break windows with snow and ice balls with a Mag85 from 50+ yards away. Funny how the fighting stopped and they all started running away in every direction, including two that must have forgotten where the light came from as they started walking quickly in my direction. Another blast in the face at about 40 yards and they took off running in the other direction.

    Funny how people misbehaving think a really bright light = popo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Painter
    I had a friend who did just the opposite. He had his spotlight on a guy who was running away. It was down a steep embankment and he was not going to chase him.
    After a few seconds he turned the light off.
    It's hard to run in the dark.
    The guy said that if my friend left the light on he would walk to the patrol car.
    That so reminds me of my rookie days. We're on foot pursuit of a B&E and he dodges into a stand of trees and the training officer with me stops and tells me to turn my light off for a second. <crash, bang, thud> and we turn the light and the perp had run right into a tree and was laying on the ground.
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    Use mine daily for vehicle approaches on traffic stops. Or while searching unsecured buildings. Especially now that I'm working midnight shift. I'm using my Surefire 8NX, Streamlight Strion on my belt and Brinkman Maxfire w BOG 3w Led module with Li-Ion battery in my pocket as backup and my SL-20XP in my gearbag.
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    This happend last autumn to me. I was on round as night guard. I heard nearby school yard noise. I was opposite of yard on incoming gate. I stopped right behind gate. I heard 'STOP POLICE' many times. The sounds of running was coming near by me, behind corner of building. I was ready; The SF 8XN, battery hot from charger, on my hand and other hand was the FoxLabs OC on quick release holder. There they came. Man was runnning getaway from Police. Bad guy was soon to be the winner, guy was making gap to Police. Police was running with opened telecopic baton in hitting position on his hand. Man was getting runnaway from Police. I just Hopped to front on the bad guy, from behind the gate.
    It was dusky. BAM !
    I shined guys face about 2 meters before he come up to me, by my SF 8XN and yelled: ' FREEZE THIS IS GUARD!'. The man was instanly blinded and unoriented.

    I took submission on that man's throat and forced him to ground. He was lying on his belly down, me on top of his back. I put my knee on his face and shined his face. He tryed to wrestle on me, but he didn't see a thing.

    The Police joined to wrestle and together with Police, we cuffed bad guy.
    The 8XN made my day ! ( or should I say Night ? )
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    Default Re: Who has actually used the "Tactical" aspect of their torch?

    So how many people actually have had to use their light in a "Tactical" manner?
    I walked along the ceiling into the kitchen, dropped to the floor, upside down on a rope, illuminated the target with my 6P, then covertly de-animated the pile of envelopes with my Dark Ops ninja nailfile.
    Do something alone and it's weird, do it with others and it's a club.

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    Default Re: Who has actually used the "Tactical" aspect of their torch?

    Why is the theme to Mission: Impossible coming to mind as I read this thread?

    Closest I've ever come to using a tactical flashlight tactically is shooting while illuminating a target with one. Just paper targets, mind you... but still...
    "That's what makes SF so badass... we've got the best flashlights."

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    I spent a few months in Cape Town-South Africa last year.
    Although I lived in one of those enclosed security complexes in Table View, they once broke into my house (during daytime) and took almost everything that i brought to the country (laptop, clothes and so on).

    That made me nervous, so whenever there was a noise or my staffordshire getting nervous, I would grab my M3, pepper spray and the dog and went on to look.
    I know that was stupid to go out alone and unarmed but just sitting around was impossible for me. Once I cornered a guy and blinded him just to see it was the neighbour walking his dog at 2 am in the morning....he had trouble with hos wife.
    We ended up having a beer in my front yard.

    Called the cops twice since they also broke into cars (mine too-dyuricg daytime).
    Took them once 30 mins to show up....

    South Africa is a place where you go to jail for 5 yrs for not having a TV licence and murder gives you 2 yrs...

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