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    Default What is the best fire starter?

    I too, am putting together a "first aid" / emergency kit. My family got kind of hammered in Rita, which is why I'm thinking about it now.
    There are a few things I don't know anything about, like a fire starter gadget. I threw a couple of disposable lighters in it, but I want something more dependable.
    The next is some type of camp cooking apparatus, like those hexamine stoves etc. I bought one at County Comm for about 8$, I think. Is that good enough? I dont want to open it to check it out because it's packaged so well.
    I'm going to get one of those Pelican 0370(?) cases to put this home kit in. It's damn expensive, but it will last me for the rest of my life. Looks like I can get one for under 250$ I want to have room for dry clothes and blankets, that's why I'm looking at a 24"x24"x24" case. I figure even if the house falls in on it, the contents will still be good, if I can dig the case out.
    Um, hmm. I've rambled.
    So, what's a good fire starter?

    -edit-- Oh, cost isn't an issue, obviously. If I'm going to spend this much for the case, I want the contents to be top shelf.
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    Default Re: What is the best fire starter?

    swedish firesteel looks like the most reliable one out there so far(no fuel, 12000 strikes)
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    Well, as far as magnesium firestarters, I've heard several accounts that Doan magnesium firestarters are the only way to go, as the flint can get seperated on other, inferior brands. TADGear apparently stocks them, but I've never ordered there.
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    Default Re: What is the best fire starter?

    I use magnesium metal blocks.
    to use them you shave off a bunch of shavings then ignite with a spark, burns very hot. The commercially available firestarters have a magnesium block with a flint striker on one side.

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    T.A.D. gear is a very good store, with great customer service. I have placed many orders with them and always been satisfied.

    So, those mag blocks with the striker in them are good? Aren't they only like 5$?
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    Go over to http://www.equipped.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?Cat=
    This is a regularly discussed topic there, much in the Ford/Chevy type debate, but there is a great deal of information on the subject.
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    I just found this, as well...
    http://www.oldjimbo.com/survival/doan.html
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    Shankus, cool to see you posting. The disadvantage of the Magnesium fire starters is the shavings are very easily blown away in even the slightest breeze. The resulting ignition is very,very brief under the best of conditions. A good fire starting kit is small, lightweight and inexpensive and should consist of NATO boat matches, magnesium firestarters, strike anywhere matches, butane lighter, firesteels and cotton balls dipped in petro-jelly,etc. County Comm sells a excellent firesteel in a sealed package. Buy extras to practice with.The most beneficial aspect of fire starting with non-standard means is practice, practice, practice. Every option has weak points. Fire seems easy until one is in a damp, cold, windy, miserable environment.

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    Cotton balls dipped in petroleum jelly?
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    There's one called Blast Match Fire Starter. They can be had over at Brigade Quarter Masters for $19.99. Enjoy!


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    Paper?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shankus
    Cotton balls dipped in petroleum jelly?
    They are fairly easy to ignite, easily had, and will say ablaze long enough for the wood to catch fire.
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    Default Re: What is the best fire starter?

    A couple ounces of Potassium Permanganate and a small bottle of glycerin work very well too, just make sure you keep them separated until you want fire!

    I picked up a pound at my local Home Depot recently. They were clearing it out for about $4 for a 1 lb. container.

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    Default Re: What is the best fire starter?

    powdered rust plus aluminum powder, but don't try it, its called thermite and can be very dangerous with out the proper care.

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    Default Re: What is the best fire starter?

    Quote Originally Posted by LitFuse
    A couple ounces of Potassium Permangenate and a small bottle of glycerin work very well too, just make sure you keep them separated until you want fire!
    What's the 'common' household name for the stuff? Do I just walk into Home Depot and ask for KMnO4?
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    Default Re: What is the best fire starter?

    Filter-Mate Potassium Permanganate, It's used in water filtration. I don't know if it's being cleared out nationwide or not.

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    a zippo..

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    I thought we were trying to start a fire here, not perforate an engine block or do some field expedient welding...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morelite
    powdered rust plus aluminum powder, but don't try it, its called thermite and can be very dangerous with out the proper care.

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    Zippo and extra fluid..

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    What about British Lifeboat or Fireboat matches or something? (I think they're called something like that.) Does anyone know anything about them?

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    Default Re: What is the best fire starter?

    Don't overlook the usefulness of a regular candle. It burns slowly enough to ignite even the most wet material.

    As far as the original flame though..... I'd simply throw in half a dozen bic lighters in individual ziploc bags and rotate them out every year or so. I have some that work fine after 7+ years in storage. So basically, I think you're reinventing the wheel and thinking too hard.

    After living through katrina and seeing what people went through, I've some very different ideas on a "kit" to put together. But that's another debate in itself.

    Also, I already have a custom, bright yellow, pelical 1610.
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    Default Re: What is the best fire starter?

    The cotton balls with petrol jelly works GREAT & so does waterless handcleaner (contains alcohol).

    I've got the BlastMatch -

    If you're an NRA member - they have it on their website (and sometimes at gunshows) for $13 in a kit that includes a StarFlash signal mirror, a JetScream whistle, and WetFire Fire Starting Tinder - all packed in a small waterproof Otterbox!

    This is an incredible deal - even with shipping!

    Price the individual components here and even without the WetFire Tinder (NRA kit only includes 2 cubes -whereas the site is selling you 8)...the individual components come to over $50!

    Shop around - you won't find a better deal on all of this thrown together in one kit! Tell me if you do - PLEASE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonSidneyB
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    Default Re: What is the best fire starter?

    I just tested out both the Blast Match and Swedish Firesteel this weekend. The Blast Match is easy to use single-handed; however it's very bulky. The firesteel was also easy to use. Both gave out plenty of sparks and lighted my tinder quite easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by morituri
    The Blast Match is easy to use single-handed; however it's very bulky.
    Just curious; how bulky is this Blast Match? Compared to—

    Reason for asking is because I was looking into getting this also.
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    Turbodog has it about right. Best fire starter is a disposable lighter, best backup is another disposable lighter, etc. ad infinitum. I am saying this as someone who still carries strike-anywhere matches on every backpacking trip (never had to use them) and hates throw-away stuff!. Sorry to say this, but the disposable lighters are lighter and more reliable after long storage than about anything comparable in weight and bulk.

    Someone else said the best fire-starter is between your ears. Right on! Many years past, I recall helping out a bunch of attractive female college students on an excursion in the Adirondacks. They were trying to ignite a large, damp log with a lighter. I taught them the basics of tinder and kindling. Gee, that was fun! Took a lot of time, thankfully. They were really naive but quite cute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonSidneyB
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