UPDATE : so-called protected 18650 cells from All-Battery.com

TinderBox (UK)

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UPDATE : Now they are protected 18650 cells from All-Battery.com

"update" looks like the battery`s I got from All-Battery.com, might not be protected after all.

I have sent two e-mails to All-Battery.com, and am waiting their reply.

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I have been looking for some protected 18650 cell to fit my VB-16.

and i found four for $23.79 from All-Battery.com

at the following link.

http://www.all-battery.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=461

I emailed them about the max cell diameter and they sent me the following reply.

my question is, are they 18.1mm or are they reading from the spec sheet.

and they still will be to wide to fit.

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Dear customer,

The diameter is 18.1mm.

thanks,

Customer Service
All-Battery.com



Is it possible for you to measure the diameter of your

4 Li-Ion 18650 3.7V 2200 mAh rechargeable battery with protection PCB

Li18650-2200-4

The cells must be no wider than 18.5mm at there widest point.

As is to must be to fit in my VB-16 flashlight.


Thankyou.
 
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Re: protected 18650 from All-Battery.com

Great find, but I don't think they will ship to UK.

From their shopping FAQ:
"Q9: Can you send orders to other countries?

We ship to the United States, Canada."

The TL-200 charger looked really interesting.
 

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Re: protected 18650 from All-Battery.com

I registered and added them to my cart, but they want $30.00 to ship to the UK.

do you think their dimmensions are correct.

I don`t think they can be.

just hoping someone knows for sure.

If they do fit.

if someone on CPS is going to order them for themselves , would they order me a set and i will paypal them the money.

you can post up to 4lb in weight with an GLOBAL PRIORITY MAIL: FLAT RATE ENVELOPE for $5.25.

regards


regards.
 

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Re: protected 18650 from All-Battery.com

The protection strip adds to the width of the cell and there is also a variance at how much it adds. I'm not sure if their measument includes the protection strip since you get a different measure different places on the cell. However, 18.1mm looks right for the cell without protection, but with protection it may be over 18.5mm.
I think you will take a chance on buying these, it will be much safer for you to buy 17670.
 

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Re: protected 18650 from All-Battery.com

I have read that lower capacity protected 18650 cells might fit.

I specificaly asked them to measure the cells, 18.1mm looked to good to be true.

I had been told that protected 18650 are 18.7mm.

still a good price if you can get them to fit in your flashlight, and you live in the USA.

regards.
 

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Re: protected 18650 from All-Battery.com

CPFer MuleSkinner bought eight of their protected 18650 cells, then sold them in this thread, where you can see photos. He sold them after learning that they might not be able to power a Carley 1499 lamp.
 

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Re: protected 18650 from All-Battery.com

Paul_in_Maryland said:
CPFer MuleSkinner bought eight of their protected 18650 cells, then sold them in this thread, where you can see photos. He sold them after learning that they might not be able to power a Carley 1499 lamp.

Tenergy corp apears to be legit, if their web info is correct. based out of silicon valley with mfg faciities in china. they would have to carry liability insurance on their products.

pricing seems to be better or equal to overseas. if quality is equal to 3 cells I recived from muleskinner. these cells have excellent quality build. have not ran mah tests to verify claim capacity.

this is indeed good news to find these folks. if indeed they are legit. protected 18650 cells measure 18.18 at thickest point and fits into surefire U2 with no problems.

tenergy 18650.JPG
 
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Re: protected 18650 from All-Battery.com

I too am looking for protected 18650 Li-ion batteries and discovered the All-Battery.com four (4) battery special last week. After several frustrating attempts to verify the outside diameter of their 18650's via email, I picked up the phone and called them directly. What I learned is quite interesting.

Tenergy/All-Battery.com carries 18650's made by two different manufacturers - LG Electronics and their own house brand manufactured to their specifications in China. The very knowledgeable customer service representative that I spoke to informed me that Tenergy/All-Battery was currently out of their house brand protected 18650's. If you place an order on-line today, you will receive the LG protected 18650's. They measure 18.6mm in diameter - probably too big for most wide body lights.

Now for the really interesting part. According to the Tenergy Rep, their house-brand protected 18650 batteries will measure 18mm in diameter plus or minus 0.2mm actual. Based on this information, I faxed Tenergy a purchase order for six (6) All-Battery branded 18650's to test. They agreed to refund my purchase if the batteries are larger than 18.2mm. It could take up to twelve (12) weeks for All-Battery to receive their next shipment of house-brand batteries from China however.

Once I receive my Tenergy/All-Battery 18650's, I'll post my findings on CPF.
 

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Re: protected 18650 from All-Battery.com

Paul_in_Maryland said:
CPFer MuleSkinner bought eight of their protected 18650 cells, then sold them in this thread, where you can see photos. He sold them after learning that they might not be able to power a Carley 1499 lamp.

I bought two of these in the sale.

Just charged them up and they will run the ROP LE HOLA. AW's protected cells won't run eihter ROP bulb...

They have the vents on top but they may not be fully protected after all?

CY have you checked yours out yet...
 

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Re: protected 18650 from All-Battery.com

mine runs all 18650 led lights including U2 perfectly. sorry don't have a incand 18650 to test with
 

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Re: protected 18650 from All-Battery.com

I don't think those LG cells are protected, there is not mention of any protection on this page, and that are the same cells as MuleSkinner was selling.

Sigbjoern
 

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Re: protected 18650 from All-Battery.com

I was under the impression that the LGs were the protected brand sold by e-lectronics (CPF's Mark) here. I read somewhere that they're rated for 1.5C. But I don't see LG in his photo on that page.
 

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Re: protected 18650 from All-Battery.com

I can use them either way but from the sales thread felt as though they were fully protected for overcharge and overdishcharge. Wonder if buyers should at least be notified they may not be fully protected... :thinking:
 

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Lurveleven said:
I don't think those LG cells are protected, there is not mention of any protection on this page, and that are the same cells as MuleSkinner was selling.

Sigbjoern
opsss thought these were protected????
 

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Re: protected 18650 from All-Battery.com

Paul_in_Maryland said:
I was under the impression that the LGs were the protected brand sold by e-lectronics (CPF's Mark) here. I read somewhere that they're rated for 1.5C. But I don't see LG in his photo on that page.

LG cells are cells made by LG Chemical, as far as I know you will not find LG cells with PCB protection.
 

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Re: protected 18650 from All-Battery.com

LG cells are ONLY thermal protected,
no over/under discharge protection.
 

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Re: protected 18650 from All-Battery.com

I have some Pila batts, which are protected, and they don't have a button top like alkies or NiMH's.
 

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Re: protected 18650 from All-Battery.com

Web site claims full Protection

$23.79 for four batteries with full protection :)

Mine Power up ROPLE HOLA


Specs say:here

FEATURES AND BENEFITS
- Lithium Ion 18650 cylindrical rechargeable batteries
- 3.7V 2200mAh high capacity
- Higher energy density and lower weight than other types rechargeable batteries
- Manufactured under ISO9001-2000 to assure quality
- Internal PCB protects against under and over charging- low voltage 2.8, high voltage 4.2.
 
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