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    Wink2 My little 10Watt HID MONSTER

    Hi guyz, its me again...

    Here another project I completed a short while ago:



    Its a very powerfull 10watt mini HID torch: 250,000 peak beam CP. Its waterresistand up to depths of 200 ft. Has +2 hours of burntime on one charge.



    The reflector is made from an used projector-bulb: This perfect parabolic dichoric (cold) reflector is capable of withstanding extreme temperatures and has more than 98% overall reflection.

    The green ring has a little magnet embedded, switching a reed-switch inside the torch. This reed triggers two 2amp power relays placed in the reflector-compartment: A highly durable, most waterresistand solution.

    I removed the protective bulb from the Solarc 10watt HID lamp to gain a few % of lumens and to prevent "optical arc dissplacement"

    The lamp is cemented very exactly in the reflector to obtain a nearly perfect beampattern with a 250,000 Cp hotspot in the middle:



    The inside is quite simple: Using three 2.4Ah 18650 Li-Ion cells. Each cell has its own connector at the back of the torch.



    The inside temperature is kept well within specs by the large heatsink at the outside of the lamphead: its completely surrounding the ballast. The inside temp. doesn't rise more than 15 deg. centigrade above the environment-temp. during continous operation.

    The high-candlepower hotspot in the center of the beam is created by a very small hotspot in the arc near the anode:




    The surface brightness of this hotspot is several times higher than the mean surface brightness of the entire arc.

    To successfully concentrate the light of this hotspot you need a perfect parabolic reflector. And you need to remove the protective bulb which causes an optical effect that makes parabolic reflectors useless for this purpose!

    The front window it a multilayer coated quartz window 4mm thick, hardly visible on the pics due to its high transmission: 99.3%!

    All this adds up: 98% reflective reflector, removed protective bulb, overdriven lamp and 99.3% transmitting window: Making most torchlumens out of bulblumens.

    Wanna know more, ask me!
    Last edited by Ra; 08-24-2010 at 09:40 AM. Reason: Picture repaired

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    Default Re: My little 10Watt HID MONSTER

    Hello Ra

    Wowwwwww, that's a HID, ohhhh sorry

    Thats THE HIT........

    Best regards

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    Very, very nice. Did you make the body from scratch or start with salvaged parts from something else?
    Jim - Have lights, lead, and steel will travel

    The heck with runtime. I just want to hold the sun in my hands!! Brighter is Better!

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    Thanks guyz,

    I totally designed the torch myself, a highly skilled friend of mine helped machining the black annodized aluminum parts.

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    Is that a ping-pong ball next to it??
    I love my Al-PD

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    Excellent job, where did the reflector come from?
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    Yep, a ping-pong ball, with hair (as much hair as I have), two eyes, a nose and a mouth.. Its to give a better impression of the size of the torch.

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    Default Re: My little 10Watt HID MONSTER

    Another excellent project !

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    Default Re: My little 10Watt HID MONSTER

    Wow thats a nice torch!

    Today, most beamerlamps have a Rectangular reflector

    Good idea with a reed-switch.

    zelda

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    This is a very nice job. Have you got some beamshot comparison?
    I like very mutch your CAD drowing software.

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    Zelda said:

    "Today, most beamerlamps have a Rectangular reflector"

    Yes, thats a problem making torches like these, you'll have to bump onto a nice, usable reflector. BTW this was a rectangular reflector, but it was much larger. I machined it down, losing the rectangular part. Its from a Hitachi CP-X960 projector lamp.
    Last edited by Ra; 11-12-2007 at 01:45 PM.

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    Yeah, I have a question. How much are you going to sell it to me for?

    Jeff
    Time to upgrade the dinosaurs, one at a time.

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    Be strong Jeff,

    I see you already have too many lights.

    Do you have any idea of the time I need to make one of these ?? I don't want to dissapoint other torchlovers, but its not likely I'm going to produce these torches, I simply don't have the time.

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    I'll bet if you sat down and added all the money you have wrapped up in this light, it would scare even you. Remember you have to account for all your time and labor and your friend's time and labor at reasonable rates for engineering design and production. You also have to throw in the cost of machine time. All of this is on top of all material costs, including the stuff that had to be thrown away.

    I know these projects tend to take on a life of their own. I'm glad yours turned out so well. It's a fantastic job.
    Jim - Have lights, lead, and steel will travel

    The heck with runtime. I just want to hold the sun in my hands!! Brighter is Better!

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    Default Re: My little 10Watt HID MONSTER

    That's an awesome light. If you have other 10 watt HID's you should compare them to show the difference.

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    Default Re: My little 10Watt HID MONSTER

    For anyone who missed the thread this is a link to his other "Monster!"

    http://candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=125819

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    Default Re: My little 10Watt HID MONSTER

    Very nice mod!

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    Default Re: My little 10Watt HID MONSTER

    Quote Originally Posted by Icarus
    Very nice mod!
    I'd hardly call it a "mod" since it was built from scratch.
    Jim - Have lights, lead, and steel will travel

    The heck with runtime. I just want to hold the sun in my hands!! Brighter is Better!

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    Default Re: My little 10Watt HID MONSTER

    So, how long from dream to completion on this bad boy??


    Im guessin considerably under a year, right?
    No matter where you go there you are!

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    Now, this is a very tempting thing.
    Where would one get the necessary componants...?
    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mst3k
    So, how long from dream to completion on this bad boy??


    Im guessin considerably under a year, right?
    In fact its over a year! The design was already taking shape more than a year ago, but the hard part is finding a reflector accurate enough for this project.
    The manufacturing of the little beast took about two months.

    The reflector was the most difficult to make, its made out of very hard ceramic material. The ballast and lamp I grabbed out of a UK Light Canon 100. The 18650 cells from Ebay.

    The best I can come up with to compare it to is a pistol-grip halogen torch I modified a few years ago: a 6volt 30watt projection bulb is overdriven at 7.2 volts. This torch puts out 225,000 beam CP (calibrated measurement.)
    I'll make some beamshots if I can find the time today.

    Laterrr.
    Last edited by Ra; 07-30-2006 at 02:44 AM.

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    Wow!

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    Exclamation More Beamshots...

    Later tonight I'll come up with beamshots taken in the field, but for now:



    And...



    Looks like one of the nebulae in space....doesn't it??

    And for surface brightness:



    Ra.
    Last edited by Ra; 07-31-2006 at 11:29 AM.

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    Ra,

    Once again, just art.

    (pppsss hehe...hrmmm *wakes up* damn!)

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    Ummmmm I Would like to buy one.....

    Put me on the list.

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    Beautiful. The size and burn time make me drool. I'd like a rugged version that gave up on precision for strenght that I could carry with me as a volunteer firefighter/EMT.
    A snap on for wide angle/closer work would make it perfect.
    And while the black is beautiful a bright orange or yellow would make it easier to find if dropped on a job...
    (And a $24.98 price tag while I dream...)

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    Very impressive. You really have a great design talent. I'm sure a limited run of these lights would sell instantly. Great work

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    Nice work once again

    I think this is an excellent choice of battery configuration. What sort of runtimes do you get with the 3x 2400mah 18650s? Did you know they make 2600s?

    http://www.batteryspace.com/index.as...OD&ProdID=2763

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    Well Monkeyboy, it runs just over two hours on one charge.

    And ...I din't know about the 2600 mAh cells... I'm going to order a few of them! Thanks for the tip.

    Regards,

    Ra

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    Default Re: My little 10Watt HID MONSTER

    This might get me into HID's....

    What is the host, and was the switch a Mod, or Standard ?

    Cheers !!

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