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    I bought 2 of these today. Looks like the anticipated K2's right? But actually they are the "DEF 8K" models which I think were made for the military or something. Both of them come with the main white LED and an outer ring of 2 LED colors. I bought one each of the A and B version, the only difference being the color of the outer LEDs. The A version has RED and BLUE whereas the B version has RED and GREEN. The dealer told me that it was part of a limited batch they received and it has the PK logo laser engraved onto the side. The colors are selected by the ring just behind the head (just like the U2). The tailcap is a 2 stage clickie which adjusts the 2 stage brightness of the main white led. I also saw a "DEF 5K" version, the difference is the brightness of the main led and the inability to turn on the outer leds independantly of the main led. The very interesting thing is that there is no serial number on the main body like there is on all other surefires I know of.







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    Default Re: Got some Surefire DEF's

    Very nice. So those are a special run of rebadged Kroma's?
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    Not Kromas, but rather something like the DARPA DEF3A lights.

    Maverick, about what did you pay for each, if you don't mind me asking? Excellent find.
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    pics?
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    Are those the the "pk specials" with a LuxV and 5mm outer leds?

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    Hello maverick

    Congratulations to your new lights.

    What's the diameter of the head? It looks like a good host for a multiple Lux-mod.

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    Very cool...I had heard a rumor of this light, but I guess it was not one. Did you get these through a dealer? Prices? Availability?
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    Wonder if Size 15's has these in his extensive collection?

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    I got them for about $275 each. He told me that it was the last 2 he had left, and that the rest were the 5K's. According to him, Surefire allocated 100 units to SE asia and he got 20 of them which he received just this Monday. They must have gone like hot cakes since he sold them all in 4 days.

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    whoa, looks like a Kroma with a "Turbohead"

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    that looks like one serious torch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xpitxbullx
    Wonder if Size 15's has these in his extensive collection?

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    Wink2 Re: Got some Surefire DEF's

    Al, or anyone, can you confirm or deny that these have LuxV and the larger 5mm led around the bezel?

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcspar
    Al, or anyone, can you confirm or deny that these have LuxV and the larger 5mm led around the bezel?

    Thanks,

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    Yes, LuxeonV behind central TIR optic and 5mm surrounding LEDs.

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    Thank you!

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    What? Whoa, I need to see some beamshots of that 5W through the optics. It would be like my L5 with an optic, right? Any US dealers have them?
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    PM enroute, KDOG3!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KDOG3
    What? Whoa, I need to see some beamshots of that 5W through the optics. It would be like my L5 with an optic, right? Any US dealers have them?

    kdog3, i tried using a KL1 TIR on a Lux V, giant hotspot, projected the four dies perfectly, the hotspot was bigger than a Lux V using Mc-R27 reflector
    the KL1TIR is tiny in comparison to a Kroma or Def TIR,
    take into account that TIR can customised to the size of the LED, i am guessing the Def TIR will have a good throw and good light coming out of it

    now, how do i get my hands on a TIR optic from the DEF or Kroma

    link to pictures taht i posted a comparison between TIR and Mc-R27, in both Lux V and Lux III

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    So what's the deal with these lights? Are they going to sell them as regular models or will they just be yet another limited edition only sold to the asian markets? Oh, and how can they be shipping these yet we are still waiting for our Kromas? Grrrrrr...

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    Nice light for sure,


    A little bulky but nice!



    I wonder how the Beam on that light looks like!


    I had plans on Upgrading my ordered K2 Milspec with a Lux V and boosting the output a little.
    If doable.


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    Mmmmm flashlights

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    o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0ohhhhh!!!!!





    I cant one, cant afford one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RemingtonBPD
    What Surefire lights doesn't curse have?

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    Okay, it looks like there are five KROMA models. The standard KROMA and the MILSPEC KROMA and then three KROMA TURBO models. These can't all be limited editions as there is way more involved here than just some CNC work or crenelated bezels. What exactly is the deal here? Why wouldn't they sell them in the US? How can they ship these when they haven't even shipped out the regular KROMAs yet? Curse? Size15s? Anybody?

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    Beats me!


    Im angry as H... now,if i had known this i would have used my money on the 5W model instead of the Kroma milspec.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Chehalis
    Okay, it looks like there are five KROMA models. The standard KROMA and the MILSPEC KROMA and then three KROMA TURBO models. These can't all be limited editions as there is way more involved here than just some CNC work or crenelated bezels. What exactly is the deal here? Why wouldn't they sell them in the US? How can they ship these when they haven't even shipped out the regular KROMAs yet? Curse? Size15s? Anybody?

    Good point.

    Places like Asia get everything before we do in Europe and the USA.

    Take mobile phones for example they had 3MP camera phones years ago. We are only just getting them.

    We are about 2 years behind them in technology.

    It's not fair, I want a Kroma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorpheusT1
    Beats me!
    Im angry as H... now,if i had known this i would have used my money on the 5W model instead of the Kroma milspec.

    Benny
    There's always gonna be the next new flashlight. At some point one has to bite the bullet and buy one rather than wait for the next one and the next one and the one after that.

    These "TurboHead Kromas" are special limited editions so I consider these are special additional models to the Kroma & KromaMS rather than part of the Kroma series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad1
    Good point.

    Places like Asia get everything before we do in Europe and the USA.

    Take mobile phones for example they had 3MP camera phones years ago. We are only just getting them.

    We are about 2 years behind them in technology.

    It's not fair, I want a Kroma.
    you mean like how they never released any of the Porcupine lights in the western hemisphere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 270winchester
    you mean like how they never released any of the Porcupine lights in the western hemisphere?
    The Porcupines are extra special since I believe a distributer has an arrangement with SureFire to have them exclusively.

    Just because we've not yet seen other Dealers offering these TurboHead Kromas doesn't mean they aren't.

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    OK, maybe I am weird or something (some of you can easily confirm that ), but I see searching out Porky's or other rare SF's and other lights as interesting and fun! Maybe frustrating at times to be sure, but soooo nice when you have success and your hard work pays off and you have something rare and cool in your hands.


    Yeah, I guess now that I think about it, I must just be weird.

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