Baltics are here!

[RobynS]

Uhhh, ya know, he was handed the phone when I began to ask technical questions, but I really don't know if he's an engineer or not. Maybe he just stayed at a Holiday Inn Express the night before . I certainly do get the impression that he hangs out there alot .

Curt is Peaks technical guru, he does our designs, electrical and mechanical..he is Peak..as I am...Holiday Inn Express???? Totally confused!!

Robyn

[ernsanada]

I just ordered a Baltic in brass from Peak. The Baltic uses a TWOJ led and the same electronics as the Pacific. The head is smaller in size and they told me they are about the same size as a Matterhorn head, maybe slightly larger. You can also choose your drive level like the other models. I chose a high power which should be putting out about 110 candlepower. It uses a 17mm reflector (IMS?) which is cut down to 13mm and covered by a lens (plastic?). It has the same construction as the Pacific. The electronics screw in from behind. Should have a nice wide beam. The bodies that will be available are N cell, 2xN cell, AAA, and I think 2xAAA. I think all the bodies are currently available in HA and stainless. The brass just has the N cell available with the AAA bodies following in a couple of weeks.
You have to call Peak directly to order. They said the website will be updated in a few weeks. I am not even sure exactly what these things look like, but I know they will be keychain sized. I should get mine by the end of next week and I will post some pictures.

How much do the Baltic's cost?

[Grubbster]

How much do the Baltic's cost?

Same pricing structure as the Pacific. About $50 plus $10 for additional bodies. Slightly higher for stainless.

[brotherbob]

Where are the pictures of the LLR44 configuration?? I am getting desperate.

[Grubbster]

Where are the pictures of the LLR44 configuration?? I am getting desperate.

If you are talking about the hearing aid size batteries, I don't think those are finished yet.

[Mr. Blue]

where are the beamshot pix???

what are the runtimes compared to the Pacific?

[Lebkuecher]

I received the Baltic today and am impressed.

The quality is very good as well as the beam quality. Compared to the Pacific the head is much smaller and the length is ever so slightly shorter. Here are some pictures











I do not know runtimes at this point and do not have the equipment in house to test for brightness but will post beam shots for comparisons. For the record this is a Ultra so I would expect a relatively short runtime. (I like bright)

The first picture is the Baltic in front of the Surefire battery and the Pacific is in front of the blue battery. The 2 AAA option is in front of the CR2 and that is beside the 2 AAA option for the Pacific.

Second and third picture is comparing the Matterhorn with the Baltic.

The fourth and fifth picture is comparing the L0P.

I will be provide some beam shots and further thoughts when it gets a little darker.

[Lebkuecher]

Looks like I'm going to have to post beam shots Thursday night provided I can get on the CPF. I want to be accurate and want to have fresh batteries in all the lights for a group shot. I will post a comparison or group shot with the Ultra Matterhorn, Pacific, Fenix L0P and Baltic Ultra.

[Peter Atwood]

My buddy Brian showed up this past weekend with a Baltic and a Pacific. I'm very impressed with these lights and am chomping at the bit to order a couple. To me the Baltic in HA ultra power with AAA body was a perfectly sized little pocket light with excellent tint and throw. Peak has really taken some steps up with these and I think they will be a long lasting product.

One comment to Peak, I like the additional machining on the head as it helps in turning on the light one handed. Would love to see some knurling as well however for that little bit of extra positive engagement. I have to say though, that the body knurling has been improved on these over your older lights. You guys are on the right track!

[Peter Atwood]

One more comment to Peak...I really wish you guys had more info on your website. Why don't you have write-ups with each product spelling out all the specs? It needs to be on the product page with each piece. I'd like to see the options, outputs, runtime, weights, etc. It would make it so much easier for your customers to compare your products. I am a big fan and have purchased many pieces in the past but it has not been quite as easy as it ought to have been.

[brotherbob]

No baltic for this house. That thing is way too long for a keyring light. this will not be a big seller. If it was a lug style it would be close to being usable.

[jburgett]

brotherbob,

I received by Baltic recently, and while the AAA body with the replaceable keychain end is a bit long, the N-cell body is nice. It was small enough for me to replace my Photon Freedom Max as my keychain light.

Of course I am eagerly waiting for the AAA lug body to be available.

Cheers!

[Grubbster]

No baltic for this house. That thing is way too long for a keyring light. this will not be a big seller. If it was a lug style it would be close to being usable.

Peak is also coming out with a body that takes a couple of hearing aid batteries. IIRC total length with head around 1.5 inches. Put that on your keychain! Should be available in the next few weeks!

[Lebkuecher]

As promised here are some beam shots. I went out and bought a 4 pack of lithium AAA Energizer batteries so all light will be on a even par with each other. As I mentioned before I do not have a in house way to measure the brightness but as a means of comparison the Fenix L0P was measured using a intergrating sphere at LSI in Scottsdale AZ at 16 Lumens on 5/5/06 using a fresh Duracell battery. Given that another L0P was measured at roughly the same brightness I think it safe to assume this is a typical L0P regardless of Fenix lumens claims on there website.


First Picture is a group shot Matterhorn Ultra, L0P, Pacific and Baltic.


Second Picture L0P and Baltic: My pictures may not do justice here, The Baltic is brighter, warmer color and has better throw.


Third Picture Pacific and Baltic


Fourth Picture L0P and 2 AAA Baltic


Fifth Picture L0P Baltic


I like the Baltic and look forward to seeing the different battery options when they become available. The quality of the manufacturing is very good and I like the way the light feels in my hand. I am also impressed how similar the hot spot is to the Pacific yet it has a much smaller reflector. I do like the beam quality and the brightness. I’m still amazed at what now can be accomplished using a 3 watt LED and a AAA battery.

I would like to encourage Peak to consider a lug style AAA battery pack option for this light. I believe the thought at this point is that the breakaway keychain style leaves open the option to use the momentary switch which is very nice but I also think there are a lot of people who would prefer a shorter light and would be willing to give up the momentary option to be able to keychain a smaller AAA light.

All and all very very nice!!

[nocturnal]

Thank you very much for these beamshots and the other pictures, Lebkuecher. Now I'm pretty much convinced to get a Baltic, just not sure about the power versions.

Is the Pacific you used for comparison a stock (high power) one, or also an ultra power? To me, it looks like the Baltic has considerably brighter spill, and I'm wondering whether that is due to the smaller reflector, overall brighter output, or both.

Do you (or does anyone else) have an idea about the relative drive levels of the high and ultra power Baltics/Pacifics? My high power Pacific runs 4+ hours with the rechargeables I use before the output drops. If an ultra power Baltic would provide at least 2+ hours, I'd definitely go that way, I just hope it doesn't plummet as fast as the L0P seems to do.

On the other hand, with a level somehow below "high power", maybe it would be possible to achieve output and runtime similar to an ARC AAA-P, but with a Luxeon that would run pretty much forever at those drive levels without lumen loss.

[Lebkuecher]

Is the Pacific you used for comparison a stock (high power) one, or also an ultra power? To me, it looks like the Baltic has considerably brighter spill, and I'm wondering whether that is due to the smaller reflector, overall brighter output, or both. :

The Pacific is a high power but the side spill is about the same as the Baltic. In fact I was surprised to see the beams so similar. The Baltic is a ultra so it is brighter then the Pacific. The one thing that really impressed me was when I attached the 2 AAA battery pack, I have no idea what the lumens are with this battery pack but it clearly blows away every light that I photographed. Hopefully Peak will post data on all the battery packs with the different versions.

Do you (or does anyone else) have an idea about the relative drive levels of the high and ultra power Baltics/Pacifics?

I don’t, some figures where thrown out at the Phoenix get-together but I don’t recall what they are.

[BentHeadTX]

Now the magic question,
Are the Baltics available with red and UV Luxeon LEDs? I need to get some part numbers from their site to order these and they have not appeared yet.

[Mr. Blue]

we need comparative run times...Peak may have a killa light here!!

[Mr. Blue]

No baltic for this house. That thing is way too long for a keyring light. this will not be a big seller. If it was a lug style it would be close to being usable.

welcome to cpf...
you may be surprised.

[tsask]

thanks for the pics! that Matterhorn Ultra looks impressive compared to the Pacific & Baltic. Does the Matt. have different battt. tubes like the Baltic?

I like my Pacific and am getting a stainless AA tube. I am thinking about the new Baltic, yet It appears that that AAA Baltic is not as bright as the AAA Matt.
any insight here from more illuminated minds would be great!

[Peter Atwood]

The Matterhorn is an awesome little keychain light. The smallness is great on my keys but for a pocket light that is easy to operate with one hand, the Matterhorn is a little difficult to turn on. The Baltic has a bigger head, a little extra length and the threads were decent on the one I played with so I think it will be a lot easier to grip and actuate with one hand.

The Matterhorn has more of a flood beam while the Baltic has much better throw and color tint.

[vortechs]

Does the Matt. have different battt. tubes like the Baltic?

The Matterhorn AAA body has the 3 different tail styles (lug, pocket, key chain) and comes in different materials (Black HA3 aluminum, bare aluminium, brass, stainless).

The only optional battery tube for the Peak Matterhorn for a different battery size (that I know of) is the semi-custom cutdown tube that is sized to fit one of AW's 10280 cells. This battery/tube combo is intended for Luxeon mods (however the 10280 Li-Ion cell does make the 3 LED Matterhorn head very very bright). See this thread for more info on the cutdown AAA tube: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=122632

[BentHeadTX]

Called Peak about the Baltics and they are available in FIVE output levels! 50, 75, 100, 175 and 230 candlepower so I had to ask "What is the power draw on the battery at 230cp"? The answer was 1.5 watts of power draw so I did the math at 1.25 amps off the battery. Time for some NiMH AAA love for that version. Uhhhhh, make my 230cp version stainless please

Did some flying pigs calculations and figure the T bin is probably running around 350mA to the emitter. A stainless steel 1xAAA Luxeon light that runs for a little over 30 minutes and has to use NiMH AAA to run? Mine will come with a 2AAA stainless body for longer runtime and brighter output as the SS Med 2AA's little brother.

Now for the HA-III lug body to appear when I want to use it on a lanyard.

[Lebkuecher]

I'm just curious about the people on the forum who have bought the Baltic and have used it now for a little time what you now think? What are your overall impressions now?

Personally I like the Baltic a lot and feel that it is worth every penny I spent. I bought the Ultra high power and it is incredibly bright for a AAA light. As far as I'm concerned I prefer the Baltic over the Fenix L0P mainly because of beam quality, throw, brightness and tint. I don’t see much of a comparison, the only advantage to the Fenix that I can see is the overall size. (Please come out with a lug style Peak)

I was walking through the house and outside last night playing with some lights and it just got woundering if other people feel the same as me. What do you like and dislike about the Baltic?

[brotherbob]

(Please come out with a lug style Peak)

AMEN!! Brother, the keychain style is simply too big!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BrightIdeaOSU]

I received my Baltic the other day. After using it for a day or so, taking it outside, and using it for some minor electrical work, I think I can endorse the light. WIth either 1AAA alkaline or 2, it is bright enough for most tasks, even splicing wires with a great deal of spill light from the sun getting in the way. I was kind of surprised that the beam looks much like that of the Pacific; I was expecting something with a bit more flood. Nonetheless, the spill part of the beam is a bit wider, and the dim, widest ring of spill is much brighter than the Pacific. For those not familiar with the pacific beam, it is a bit brighter than a 2AA mag with a much cleaner and whiter beam.

I got the torch in steel, with the 2AAA body being aluminum to save weight. It's very nicely made, but I have to agree with the other members of this forum; the single cell body needs to be available in a lug or pocket style to shorten it up a bit. The head is only marginally larger than a 3led matterhorn, so it's nice and small given the fact that it can be taken all apart and serviced, if need be.

--Aaron

[Tajji]

Hi Robyn,

Are you paying attention to the "Lug" comments? In fact I am talking about all Peak lights. You could modify the "Pocket" body to include a lug with tail stand. Probably you've heard this comment a hundred thousand times. If it takes two hundred thousand times to convince you, we'll get it done.

We want lug, we want lug!!!!!!!

[Wolfgang_Ludwig]

Waiting for LUG-SYLE.

[Peter Atwood]

Yeah, well I want the keychain style so I can throw a brass momentary on it.

[Mr. Blue]

what level Baltic would equate to the runtime of a Pacific?

Lebkeucher, what level is your Baltic?