Source for Apache m-24 binoculars

Anyone here sell these before I start looking outside the board?

I have seen these at the stores, but in my opinion only did not meet the standard set by the 8x30 steiner military marines which have become my standards for mid range glass. add to that the price of the steiners has averaged 50 bucks less, you can see where I am pointing you.


The steiners are NATO issue. Mine are 19 years old and I sent them back once to the factory as the rubber coating blistered from sitting on the dash board of my truck., my fault they still fixed it free, even after I said i would pay.

Thanks, a couple of questions:

Aren't the Steiners M-22, which were replaced by the Apache M-24? Also, all the prices I see for the Apache are much less than the Steiner. Am I missing something?

I did not do a lot of digging but I was seeing the apaches at ~~250 each, the steiners run about 190 if you look, sometimes as low as $170.USD

I was at the optics counter the other day of the big box, as my son is getting old enough to get a good pair of binocs for himself. They showed by the apaches and I compared them side by side and I felt that steiners were sharper. The apaches may have been a tad brighter, but the edge to edge sharpness was in the steiners favor.

If you look at the steiner line, all the binocs run about 450 and up except for the offshore made super compacts and the Military Marine 8x30's This is because they make so many of them for military use that they have one production line that is dedicated to just that model. I have several friends who have served in US armed forces who say that the Steiners are the issued glass to every one else in NATO and it seems everyone in europe has a pair.


As far as the standards go, I really do not know. I know mine have lasted for about twenty years, have gone to alaska three times, countless other trips, daily use by me as a contractor when I would use them to examine details without pulling out the ladder if possible, maybe five hundred trips to ball games and the like and the only issue I have had was the blistered rubber, and that was solely my fault. on the dash, direct sun, maybe a ninety five degree day, closed car. they were maybe 200 degrees when I picked them up, the amazing thing was they held fogless after that till I sent them in.

The steiners are cool in that they are sort of your set it and forget it binoculars, When you set the focus on them to the directions which is about 30 yards, the depth of field is so great that you rarely ever have to to touch the focus ring again.

That said, Weems & Plath are pretty good manufacturers, I own a sextant by them, and it is top notch.

Great information there, thanks. I guess I really need to find a storefront and try both out in person, instead of just shopping the net.