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    Hi, I'm hoping for some reccomendations on a flashlight gift for some family friends!

    They want a flashlight for general household use, mostly for when the power goes out. They live in inland Oregon, so long-term power outages aren't the norm, but maybe once a year there will be a 1/2 day outage or something like that.

    Thing is, since this will be the first & only "good" flashlight, I suspect it'll take on a more general role, like being used around their property, etc., but maybe not...

    When I asked about size, they said something which could fit in a drawer, something along the 2D size of flashlights, with 3D being too large.

    So...what would you get them? I was thinking a black 3C SL PP. I was thinking that over the 4AA variety becuase of slightly higher output, and better battery life when using standard alkalines, which I imagine is what they will use.

    But...what do you think, go with that light, or another suggestion to look into????

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    Default Re: Suggestion for power-outage/general flashlight

    You could order them a ProPoly (sweet light... so sweet), or just go down to the corner store (any one, basically) and get them a 2D MagLED.

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    Default Re: Suggestion for power-outage/general flashlight

    I would've suggested a 2D Maglite, but they're as long as some 3D lights. If you have Lowe's hardware store in your area of the country, they're closing out a 3AA 1watt light which is well within the size range you're looking for. It's small enough to easily fit in a kitchen drawer or automobile glove compartment, or even in a large purse. Lowe's is closing them out for $8.97. They're bright with pretty pure white beam, and run time is good. If you don't have a Lowe's around, I second the Streamlight Propoly.

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    I agree with TogerHawkT3 - MagLED 2-D with a pack of 4-D batteries just in case the juice is out for a week or two.
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    I would suggest a Blaster .Jr from Elektrolumens and a good pack of quality AA's. I think it's perfect for your needs as it uses 3 ordinary run of the mill AA's. If this is for emergency use then think of it this way, you can always grab the AA's out of pretty much any device in the home if you needed to. For Ex. T.V remotes, cd or mp3 players, etc.. It works great in candle mode to illuminate and entire room by removing the head and it's got a reallyu nice compact rugged design, with a runtime of about 2 1/2 - 3 hours at full brightness and plenty of more hours dimming after that on a single set of batts. You definately will not regret this purchase i can vouch for that!
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    Default Re: Suggestion for power-outage/general flashlight

    You stated a size constraint. What's your price ceiling?

    For a cost effective power outage solution:
    Search the SMJLED hosts thread and related threads. There are some successful 2D host mods listed. A rugged water-resistant rubberized body and deep reflector will yield a relatively inexpensive yet robust power-outage light. You'll get well over 24 hours of continuous bright light from a SMJLED PR drop-in and 2D cells. The output will rival 3D incans.
    The Garrity Toughlight, Energizer Hardcase(polarity issues?), and the Coleman Floating light, comes to mind. Posts on these hosts claimed great output results.

    I like NiMHs, so I prefer AA's to D's on a price to performance ratio. I've combined my 3 SMJLED PR's with AA hosts for general and extended runtime duty.
    But being a flashaholic, I've enough batteries and lights to stay lit for a week!
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    I highly recommend the Bushnell 3w LED light. I just cannot say enough good things about this light. It has decent throw, ample side spill, regulated output, long runtime, and some high tech pizzaz with 5 different modes. The modes are easily switchable by rotating the head - no tap dancing with a button. It uses 2 CR123's for long run time and long storage life.

    There is also a battery life indicator that lets you know when you only have 20 minutes left. I don't know if this really works because I'm still on my first set of batteries. Of course I've only had the light a couple of months.

    This is my current go-to general purpose light. I use it every day around the house and yard and for walking the dogs. I got the gun metal grey color, and I'm really glad I did - it gives the light a real classy, yet rugged, look.

    It's a nice size to fit in a drawer without being so small that you would lose it in a drawer. However, I think that once your friends find out how handy this light is, it will spend more time on the counter than in the drawer.

    Oh, BTW, did I tell you I like this light.
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    Default Re: Suggestion for power-outage/general flashlight

    nice pic of the SL PP 3C...3C batts are near equivalent to a 2D mag's size...long regulated runtime...but for power outages all that throw wont do much much good....unles you have a white ceiling to bounce the light off.

    http://www.flashlightreviews.com/rev...propoly_3c.htm

    6 hours on runtime....that 1/4 of a 24 hour day...

    around $30 at fox-intl

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    Default Re: Suggestion for power-outage/general flashlight

    I have a couple of Duracel 2xAA rubber flashlights with PR SMJLED installed in them.

    nice centerbeam and also a lot of side-spill, no artifacts.

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    I think the SLPP 3C Lux is a great idea. It's about 2D size, and also shaped like a conventional flashlight, a shape that they're already familiar with. The only thing that they'll have to get used to is the tailcap switch. You might want to consider the yellow instead of the black so that the light is a bit easier to find if it is dropped. One other option to consider in the same price range would probably be the 2D Mag LED, which would be a bit more powerful, though the runtimes are excellent with alkaline D batteries.

    Quote Originally Posted by mmace1
    Hi, I'm hoping for some reccomendations on a flashlight gift for some family friends!

    They want a flashlight for general household use, mostly for when the power goes out. They live in inland Oregon, so long-term power outages aren't the norm, but maybe once a year there will be a 1/2 day outage or something like that.

    Thing is, since this will be the first & only "good" flashlight, I suspect it'll take on a more general role, like being used around their property, etc., but maybe not...

    When I asked about size, they said something which could fit in a drawer, something along the 2D size of flashlights, with 3D being too large.

    So...what would you get them? I was thinking a black 3C SL PP.

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    mmace1 wrote: "Thing is, since this will be the first & only "good" flashlight, I suspect it'll take on a more general role, like being used around their property, etc., but maybe not...
    When I asked about size, they said something which could fit in a drawer, something along the 2D size of flashlights, with 3D being too large.
    But...what do you think, go with that light, or another suggestion to look into????"

    For a light that's going to spend most of its time in a drawer for use during a blackout -
    a long runtime would probably be useful.

    2D (alkaline) is a very good choice.

    You might want to look at the sMJLED PR2 bulbs
    and then choose a host.

    That can be almost anything from a 2D MagLite to some pretty cheap 2D plastic flashlights - take a look at this thread -

    Suggest SMJLED PR2 hosts?

    I have a detailed compaison review in post #90 (link)

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    Fenix L2T, or LRI Proton.
    Last edited by paulr; 09-11-2006 at 04:42 PM.

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    Any one of the new Mag Leds would fit the bill, D, C, AA, any one of them, and they can take it back in a number of places should anything ever happen to it and you are not available to get it back to whatever online dealer or whoever you buy it from if it is not local.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illum_the_nation
    ...but for power outages all that throw wont do much much good....unles you have a white ceiling to bounce the light off.
    Thanks, they do have white ceilings, but yes, that was one of my concerns too that all the throw would be wasted! However, if this does succesfully become their main light, they may find it useful for illuminating their 5-acres.

    Either way, I did end up trying the SL PP 3C from fox-intl. I saved on shipping because due to this forum, I was already ordering a SL PP 4aa for myself, and another SL PP 4aa for a friend I convinced to buy one. Now that I have them, I love the SL PP 4aa I bought for myself!

    Any way, I'll see how they like the 3C model (I know them well enough that I can get them to be honest). Thanks everyone for all the suggestions, I may well use one of them if the 3C proves to not be ideal.

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    Default Re: Suggestion for power-outage/general flashlight

    For power outage, you should have at least one 9v Safe-light, any type.

    They have a night glow feature, always on, very dim, lasts a year+

    They work well, and enable you to locate other more powerful torches.

    Certainly bright enough to wander, read and eat by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by abvidledUK
    For power outage, you should have at least one 9v Safe-light, any type.

    They have a night glow feature, always on, very dim, lasts a year+

    They work well, and enable you to locate other more powerful torches.

    Certainly bright enough to wander, read and eat by.
    Thanks, I actually read your earlier thread on the 9v Safe-lights and had my interest peaked. (at least I think it was your thread, but maybe I just the UK/Ireland avatar made your posts stick out). I definately will consider it.

    One thing I failed to mention however, they actually have a backup generator, but haven't used it yet. Though I can't remember if that was because it needed parts, or they just didn't care when the outage was only for 30 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmace1
    Thanks, I actually read your earlier thread on the 9v Safe-lights and had my interest peaked. (at least I think it was your thread, but maybe I just the UK/Ireland avatar made your posts stick out). I definately will consider it.

    One thing I failed to mention however, they actually have a backup generator, but haven't used it yet. Though I can't remember if that was because it needed parts, or they just didn't care when the outage was only for 30 minutes.
    It would be nice wouldn't it, if you knew how long it was going to last.

    We rarely have them here, usually daytime !!, and by the time I've got out the rechargeable flouro's, set up the 12v invertor to power the CH, (it lives by the CH these days) got out battery radio, etc, it's over.

    I do keep the freephone 0800 power cut reporting number by the phone.
    Longest usually 2 hours max.
    Last edited by abvidledUK; 09-16-2006 at 06:42 AM.
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    Yes, outages are usually pretty brief here as well. As such, they do a "wait and see" method before bothering to power the generator. I'm not even sure if they've had a "long" outage yet in their location (they've only been there a few years).

    However, with the much lower population density the lines are far fewer, and thus the grid is much less redundant, so just one well placed tree limbs could certainly cause a bit of havoc if response time were slow.

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    I'll second the recommendation for a Safe-Lite. The PALights are similar, but I'd recommend the Safe-Lite because the translucent head makes the glow effect easier to see from different angles. With the PALight you can often see the soft spot of the glow feature, but not it's source. You end up playing a mini game of shadow puppets as you trace the spot back to it's source.

    MagLEDs should also be fairly easy to find quite soon, if not already (in your area).
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    In power outtage situation, the most useful light is definitely without a doubt a HEADLAMP.

    I like Princeton Tec Yukon HL with 1W/3 5mm leds

    most practical IMO



    Great flood and great throw (dual mode)

    I would back that up by some bigger light, probably 3D. MagLite 3D LED, according to flashlightreviews, has an amazing 30+ hour run time. MagLIte 3AA led will stay compatible with AA if you want that.

    Here is my EL Blaster, and MM 3AA

    Last edited by etc; 09-16-2006 at 12:08 PM.

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    I got a SL twin task 2D for this purpose. Output is pretty good with the LEDs, and they have a long run time. There is a review at flashlightreviews.com.

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    Be nice to have a headlamp. with a nightglow dim light facility, to find it.

    Then again, it is easy to attach Safe-light, of any type, to waistband, or headlamp strip. Don't forget the magnet.
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    Default Re: Suggestion for power-outage/general flashlight

    For the handheld light(s) could there be anything more recognizable than a 2D M*g?

    Put a M*gled Drop In (or buy a whole pre-built light) and put a diffusing lense on it.

    Good for outdoors and not too bad for indoors.

    Last night the power was out here for about 7 hours. I picked up one of two River Rock 2AAA that I keep by the bed. One has a Dorcy 1AAA led assembly driven by one AAA. That was the one I picked up. But it seemed so bright I was SURE it was the stock one!

    In pitch dark, it doesn't take a lot of light. But for general use, brighter is often better.

    M*gled is a good compromise!!!
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    Default Re: Suggestion for power-outage/general flashlight

    Quote Originally Posted by mmace1
    Hi, I'm hoping for some reccomendations on a flashlight gift for some family friends!

    They want a flashlight for general household use, mostly for when the power goes out. They live in inland Oregon, so long-term power outages aren't the norm, but maybe once a year there will be a 1/2 day outage or something like that.

    Thing is, since this will be the first & only "good" flashlight, I suspect it'll take on a more general role, like being used around their property, etc., but maybe not...

    When I asked about size, they said something which could fit in a drawer, something along the 2D size of flashlights, with 3D being too large.

    So...what would you get them? I was thinking a black 3C SL PP. I was thinking that over the 4AA variety becuase of slightly higher output, and better battery life when using standard alkalines, which I imagine is what they will use.

    But...what do you think, go with that light, or another suggestion to look into????
    Speaking of Streamlight, and 4AA flashlights, take a look at the thread on Stremlihgt Survivor LED. Don't let the picture fool you. It's a fairly small light.
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    Default Re: Suggestion for power-outage/general flashlight

    mmace1,
    An MJLED PR base led upgrade from Lighthound ($8.99 each and free shipping) in a Garrity Tuff Lite is a nice durable package. I prefere the 2AA Tuff Lite as it has more side spill for inside the house. It's bigger brother the 2D has a nice hot spot, but less side spill. The 2AA will get over 20 hours, the 2D will get over 60 hours I think. While your at Lighthound, pick up a bunch of those .99 cent keychain lights for keychains, stashing around the house and in vehicles, giving away.

    MJLED:
    http://www.lighthound.com/sales/arcm...d_upgrades.htm

    .99 cent keychain lights:
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    Default Re: Suggestion for power-outage/general flashlight

    If you go the SMJLED PR route, be sure and have a gander at this thread:

    http://candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=121573

    It talks about hosts for same.

    I still think they should have at least one 2D M*gled. But I also see the wisdom of the SMJLED!!!
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    Default Re: Suggestion for power-outage/general flashlight

    There are 3 different versions of the SMJLED PR bulb out there. One of which do not seem to have the long LED life expected.
    http://candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=128801
    I have not noticed any degradation on my SS PR yet but I have not used it much due to it's puke green tint. I am using the ones from Lighthound nightly no problems.

    Everything you always NOT wanted to know about the SMJLED here
    http://candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=128865

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    Quote Originally Posted by WNG
    You stated a size constraint. What's your price ceiling?

    For a cost effective power outage solution:
    Search the SMJLED hosts thread and related threads. There are some successful 2D host mods listed. A rugged water-resistant rubberized body and deep reflector will yield a relatively inexpensive yet robust power-outage light. You'll get well over 24 hours of continuous bright light from a SMJLED PR drop-in and 2D cells. The output will rival 3D incans.
    The Garrity Toughlight, Energizer Hardcase(polarity issues?), and the Coleman Floating light, comes to mind. Posts on these hosts claimed great output results.

    I like NiMHs, so I prefer AA's to D's on a price to performance ratio. I've combined my 3 SMJLED PR's with AA hosts for general and extended runtime duty.
    But being a flashaholic, I've enough batteries and lights to stay lit for a week!
    ;-)
    Here's the coleman demonstration:
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    Just keep in mind it was a very foggy morning.

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    Default Re: Suggestion for power-outage/general flashlight

    Here's a different suggestion:

    Inova X0 (new style, with reflector) and a box of quality CR123 batteries (get a waterproof plastic case for them, like the Pelican, and fill it up) . Two batteries in that light yield a 5-hour regulated runtime. Much smaller than most of the alternatives already mentioned, and more easily pocketed or carried. Battery storage life about 10 years. Less likely to leak than garden-variety AA, C, or D cells. Works well in very cold weather, unlike alkalines, so if the power goes out in the winter, or they need to go outside, they're OK.
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    Default Re: Suggestion for power-outage/general flashlight

    I think that the best compromise between quality, cost, utility and runtime for give-aways to non-flashaholics for emergency lights would be some of the many low priced 2D cell flashlights with nice reflectors fitted out with SMJLED PR2 drop-ins.

    I've given away a few of these to friends for that purpose and non-flashaholics have all been just blown away by these lights that we would find so simple.

    There is a great thread about good hosts for SMJLED PR2 drop-ins and IMO you can make more high quality, useful give-aways for a given amount of money than anything else I can think of. As much as I like Pak-Lites, I can't afford to give many away.

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