I want to address this first because THIS is the attitude and one of the primary reasons why the discussion of fees for the Sell Forums came up with the moderators and administrators. Dawg... you've only been around for a few months so you don't and won't remember the days when there weren't even B/S/T forums on CPF and the person who first created CPF had no intentions of ever having them. He set up CPF for the discussion of flashlights and flashlight related items. Period. I was the one who pushed him into creating the B/S/T forums and then set them up. Since then, they have become a monster and your words are proof that the original intent of CPF has slowly faded away... and many "old timers" have long since gone or dropped off in their participation in the forums because of that. Alot of valuable resources to this community have been lost because of this very sentiment. I can imagine DavidW sitting back right now with a smirk saying "Told ya so"... and I would deserve it.It is after all the "atmosphere" of the "fleamarket" that is the soul of CPF
and...Contributed by PEU....
BUT, if this is not the issue and $$$ is, let me propose a structure that could be implemented very easy without hacks to the vBulletin software:
1) Forbid users with less than 4 months of registering to post new threads in BST related forums
2) give all users that comply with 1) 5 free posts per year in BST
3) if someone wants to post more new threads use this table:
$10 a year buys 5 new posts in BST areas
$15 buys 15 posts
$50 buys unlimited posts
I think this structure is fair for all
Now THIS is good stuff!!! THANK YOU!! Very organized... very constructive... pretty simple. I will not be implimenting these policies as posted but they have definately given me some ideas for a "tweeking" of my current structure.Contributed by bwaites...
Posters-Annual fee of $12, can post but not sell.
Members-Annual fee of $25. Can post and sell, up to 4 new sales/month, additional sales at $2.50 each.
Business Members-Annual fee of $100, plus whatever add revenue you can generate.
I do have to make mention also though, of my vote for the most UNconstructive post in this thread...
Brilliant....... B/S/T is already dead enough IMO. No need to make things worse. Or maybe that's the intention after all.
And... as to this post of mine...
Funny (not funny "haha"!) how different people interpret things differently. I do forget that. My bad. I'll put a post-it on my monitor to remind me.First... I see that the majority of the members who are posting in this thread and complaining about $2.50, don't have supporter icons... and a quick check shows me that they never have... hmmmmmm...
I apologize to anyone I offended with that comment. And you all are absolutely right about what constitutes "contributing to the community". It does indeed come in many forms. And many of you have contributed more time and even more posts than I certainly have. But I guess that's where I get to wondering... if this place is so much a part of your life and you enjoy spending so much time here and sharing your knowledge and contributing to the community, why is $2.50 a month so much for you to give to help keep this place running? I don't know... maybe it's just me... but it doesn't seem alot to ask... given the amount of time and effort you yourselves put into maintaining the true spirit and intent of CPF.
Now on to the comments of this all being about lining my pockets....
My favorite post regarding that is this one contributed by Jumpmaster...
I love when people post stuff like this. And I especially love when they post it as fact. Girlfriend, I think you already know the whole thing about "assuming"... right? Don't assume you know what is or what is not. In this instance, you will definately end up being the ass, not me.This would be an excellent solution if the problem really was to address the issue of new people joining to sell their computers and not contribute in a meaningful way in the rest of the forum areas. It's not though. It's about money.
Back to me lining my pockets... trust me guys, if I was making enough money off of CPF to be "keeping me comfortable", I certainly wouldn't be doing such things as counting pills in the KMart pharmacy or scooping up decomposed bodies for the Medical Examiner so I can pay my electric bill and car payment... I'd be sitting right here in a custom made computer chair, fitted perfectly to my ever increasing butt because I'd have nothing better to do but eat bon-bons, direct the moderators and administrators on how to do their "job", whine when things don't go my way, and make assumptions about the intentions of others. Ahhhhh... what a life... but it certainly isn't mine... and never will be. I actually do have more ethics and principles than that.
I have locked down that other thread and for at least another day or so, the fees will not be imposed. Yes, I made a mistake in not giving more time between announcing them and wanting to impliment them. I still believe that they are fair as proposed but I will be reviewing them again anyway and taking into consideration some of the very productive suggestions that some of you have made... and sorry... but for those posts that added nothing of value whatsoever to this thread or CPF itself... I'll just be ignoring them.
Fees for the Sell Forums will be imposed. Those who have already made those donations will be credited for them accordingly. And btw... thank you all who have already paid the fees Quite honestly, I am a bit blown away by the number of you who have... considering all the fuss that has been made. If I were to count the idividuals who so vocally (and some quite rudely) expressed their opposition to the fees and compared it to those who just simply clicked on the subscribe button and moved on... well... sorry opposition... you'd lose this one.
I'll post more tomorrow.