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    Default Ok Fenix guys, and gals...

    I was asked today by a friend who is considering Fenix what the big differences are between the L1P, L1S, L1T, and Civictor Fenix models. Not being a big Fenix fan I do know the L1P is a single stage light, and the other two are dual stage lights, all using 1 AA battery and the Civictor is a twisty where the others are clickies. That said what are the difference in runtimes, lumens, throw etc., finish. I do not see much difference between the L1S and L1T, what is the difference there?

    Thanks in advance.
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    Default Re: Ok Fenix guys, and gals...

    The L1P and the Civictor V1 use the same circuit from what I've read. The Civictor is shorter and easier to carry.

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    Default Re: Ok Fenix guys, and gals...

    L1 (hard to find now) standard 1 watt Luxeon, glass lens (no AR coating) HAII
    L1P; Premium R-Binned 1 watt Luxeon, glass lens with antireflective coating, Hard Anodized (Ano type 3)
    L1S; 1 watt Lux (non premium), glass lens-no AR coat, HAII ano
    L1T; 3 watt Premium Lux, coated glass lens, HA (Type 3 Ano) High/Low power settings (slap a 10-ohm 1/4 or 1/8 watt resistor in the tailcap and you get 3 power levels)
    Civictor V1 a twisty L1 (basic 1 watt Lux, HAII, no AR lens coating)

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    Default Re: Ok Fenix guys, and gals...

    I do not see much difference between the L1S and L1T, what is the difference there?
    L1T has HAIII finish, 3 watt, T-bin LED.

    L1S is just "anodised" (type II coating?), 1 watt R-bin LED (and looks pig-fugly IMHO).

    Civictor apears to be type II anodising with 1 watt ?-bin LED...and is a great little light for the money...one of my favorites.


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    Default Re: Ok Fenix guys, and gals...

    Go for the L1T and get a 14500 batt for it. Great little package.
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    Default Re: Ok Fenix guys, and gals...

    Well, the L1T is Fenix's(current) top of the line single AA light. The L1P is an earlier version. The same quality casing and lens, but a with a Luxeon I only one light level. The L1S is a cost-reduced version of the L1T. It is a lesser quality, but (IMO) the price reduction isn't enough to justify what you sacrifice. The V1 Convictor is designed to be cost-reduced and also smaller. But (IMO) the slight reduction in length(.32") doesn't justify losing two-level. And the slight difference in cost($2.75) doesn't justify what you'd lose not going with an L1S. If you want to go with the cheaper light, I'd pick the L1S. But if you don't mind spending $11 more, you get a much better light. And $11 isn't much over the life of a flashlight, even if it's only a year or two. People are going to say a twistie is much more reliable, and that .32" makes a big difference a how well a light will fit in a pocket. IMO the switch reliability isn't significant, and neither is the size difference. If you need something significantly smaller, go with a 1 AAA light. If you need something significantly more reliable go with a more expensive class of light that meets law enforcement or mil specs.

    Here's a comparison chart if you need more info:

    Fenix L1T - Luxeon 3, 2 level, type 3 anodize, AR on lens, tail clickie $43.50
    Fenix L1P - Luxeon 1, 1 level, type 3 anodize, AR on lens, tail clickie $37.95
    Fenix L1S - Luxeon 1, 2 level, type 2 anodize, no AR lens, tail clickie $32.50
    Convictor - Luxeon 1, 1 level, type 2 anodize, no AR lens, head twistie $29.75 .32" shorter


    There's a more complete table at the Fenix store, but it doesn't include the L1S.

    http://fenix-store.com/fenixtable.html
    Last edited by Bullseye00; 10-13-2006 at 09:10 PM. Reason: added L1P info

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    Default Re: Ok Fenix guys, and gals...

    MacTech,
    Is there a pictorial, tutorial, or discussion of the three stage switch mod in the L1T?
    If possible, could you give me a link?
    Thanks,
    Mike

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    Default Re: Ok Fenix guys, and gals...

    Flashlightreviews.com has reviews of each of the lights, including output ratings and runtime plots.

    http://www.flashlightreviews.com/reviews/fenix_l1p.htm
    http://www.flashlightreviews.com/rev...ix_l1s-l2s.htm
    http://www.flashlightreviews.com/rev...ix_l1t-l2t.htm
    http://www.flashlightreviews.com/rev...ivictor_v1.htm

    They helped me alot when I was deciding what to get, I went with the L2T (I wanted a 2 cell model).

    EssLight

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    Default Re: Ok Fenix guys, and gals...

    You can also buy a 2 stage switch for L1p but it's another 20 bucks. I used one w a
    L2P head and CR2 body and it works great.
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    Default Re: Ok Fenix guys, and gals...

    Another plus for the L1T is you can run a 123 batt body. Basicaly a P1 with a clicky and 2 levels. There available for pre-order at the Fenix store now Should be one great little setup.

    Ken

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