Jesus... I just turned on the TV and that was on. 4 of *our* airplanes hijacked, both towers of the Trade Center gone, the Pentagon hit, and the last was apparently aimed at Camp David but went down short.
Even in Seattle, various places are closing up faster than you can keep track.
I hope we catch those bastards and make them pay. [img]images/icons/mad.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/mad.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/mad.gif[/img]
Like a Nightmare, I live here, brooklyn NY the air has a burnt plasticy smell. Didnt feel or see anything in school but my parents got me (subways were closed) and everyone around the decalb ave. area were running red lights and stuff. They trade center buildings just aren't there. all thats left is rubble. [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]
Perpetrators of this terror should be hunted down, prosecuted, and punished to the fullest penalty available for such crime.
Hitting civilian men, women, and children, who are in no position to defend themselves from this treacherous, cowardly act of terrorism by faceless group of demented minds.
My mother who works in Manhattan walked home to Brooklyn as all tunnels and bridges were closed to vehicle traffic,... with her whole body, hair, clothes, covered with dust from the destroyed Twin Towers. She said: In spite of everyones feeling of urgency to get out of Manhattan people walked home in orderly manner and directed by police of the route to take.
Across Manhattan bridge, Brooklyn side, people were out on the streets offering help, water, soda, cookies, anything to help. This is the picture of a brave peace-loving people in the midst of cowardly terrorist attack.
It is very tempting for me at this moment to say: Bomb those motherfu...s to smithereen, lest they learn that any terroristic attacks on America, on peaceful loving people will be very costly to them.
Those terrorists do not listen to reason, but maybe, knowledge of retaliation of greater havoc to where he comes from will make him think what he's about to do is a walk to hell for everyone backhome who are important to him.
Very tempting... we are not animals like them but they should be punished. SWIFTLY and HARD!!
My prayers to the injured, to those who lost their lives, and to the families of victims of this cowardly terrorist attack.
Actually, the operation had to be extremely-well planned and well-financed. (You have to train the jet pilots, organize the backup teams, get weapons on the plane, etc.)
Lets just hope it is not the beginning of something else...
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> In the City of God there will be a great thunder, two brothers torn apart by chaos, while the fortress endures, the great leader will succumb... The third big war will begin when the big city is burning.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mad_scientist: Actually, the operation had to be extremely-well planned and well-financed. (You have to train the jet pilots, organize the backup teams, get weapons on the plane, etc.)
Lets just hope it is not the beginning of something else...
Never forget the victims of the World Trade Center,
the Pentagon, and the passengers on the four lost flights.
If you have a website or web page, please feel free to place this graphic memorial on it. Also, if you have a porch light, or can make or improvise one (like I did), you are urged to turn it on this evening and leave it lit overnight.
Here's another version.
I made these hoping somebody - a lot of somebodys - would take them and place them on websites, in e-mails, or any other appropriate location. It is my small part to help contribute like all Americans should, in whatever way they are able.
In the future if you look up stupidity in your dictionary, it will show a picture of a terrorist....
I think the Latin name for this creature is: ignoramus stupidicus, -and this astoundingly stupid act will NOT bring the expected results (panic & chaos) by this mentality. [img]images/icons/frown.gif[/img]
-Sheer lunacy..... [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
The United States dollar took another pounding on German, French and British exchanges this morning, hitting the lowest point ever known in West Germany. It has declined there by 41% since 1971 and this Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least-appreciated people in all the earth.
As long as sixty years ago, when I first started to read newspapers, I read of floods on the Yellow River and the Yangtze. Who rushed in with men and money to help? The Americans did.
They have helped control floods on the Nile, the Amazon, the Ganges and the Niger. Today, the rich bottom land of the Mississippi is under water and no foreign land has sent a dollar to help. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy, were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of those countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.
When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. I was there. I saw it.
When distant cities are hit by earthquakes, it is the United States that hurries into help... Managua Nicaragua is one of the most recent examples. So far this spring, 59 American communities have been flattened by tornadoes. Nobody has helped.
The Marshall Plan .. the Truman Policy .. all pumped billions upon billions of dollars into discouraged countries. Now, newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent war-mongering Americans.
I'd like to see one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplanes.
Come on... let's hear it! Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tristar or the Douglas 107? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all international lines except Russia fly American planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or women on the moon?
You talk about Japanese technocracy and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy and you find men on the moon, not once, but several times ... and safely home again. You talk about scandals and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everyone to look at. Even the draft dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are here on our streets, most of them ... unless they are breaking Canadian laws .. are getting American dollars from Ma and Pa at home to spend here.
When the Americans get out of this bind ... as they will... who could blame them if they said 'the hell with the rest of the world'. Let someone else buy the Israel bonds, Let someone else build or repair foreign dams or design foreign buildings that won't shake apart in earthquakes.
When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both are still broke. I can name to you 5,000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble.
Can you name me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.
Our neighbours have faced it alone and I am one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their nose at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles.
I hope Canada is not one of these. But there are many smug, self-righteous Canadians. And finally, the American Red Cross was told at its 48th Annual meeting in New Orleans this morning that it was broke.
This year's disasters .. with the year less than half-over… has taken it all and nobody...but nobody... has helped.
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The author tries to give impression that no country helped US to deal with domestic disasters because nobody gives a damn. However, other countries cannot provide help unless the US actually requests it. I would like to know about ONE occurence when the US requested international help and did not get it.
The author also tries to mislead the reader by trying to establish the cause and effect relationship between the US helping other countries and being hated for that. Common dislike of the US is caused by our foreign policy. Remember, that COUNTRIES get financial help from US, but PEOPLE don't. All that PEOLPE know is that US tries to play the role of the wolrd police, and some of the people don't like that, and some people HATE that. That hatred is what caused the Tuesday's disaster.
Oh, and by the way: considering that all Apollo 11 photos are SO fake, I tend to believe that Americans have never been on the moon.
Hey Madscientist is it right a for a policeman to be killed when he is doing his job, just because a criminal does not like that he is being charged with a crime? Americans are seen as fat, lazy slobs, but we have earned our wealth and luxuries, because of blood sweat and tears we have build the greatest country of this time, and possibly of all civilization. Unlike many countries we accept everyone and allow them to contribute to our country and make it even better.
It is not hate, its is jealuosy. Those bare foot, hut living in towel heads see what we have and are pissed.(I like to call them SAND NIG#ERS, I think this is the nicest word I can use for them.) Angry that they never got what we got. As in nature the Strong always flourish. We are at the top of the food chain. WE will squash everyone else like a bug and we have.
The US is also extrememly helpful to and really never does get any respect from it. When ever there is a good cause, the US steps up and most likely leads it, no matter the risk to thier own.
IF war occurs, I think I might join and send a couple houndred SANDNIG#ERS to their ALLAH!
And I encourage everyone to do the same
THIS IS MY COUNTRY AND GET OUT IF YOU DONT LIKE IT!!!!
Many years ago, I had adopted the practice of using a journal to record angry thoughts before I vocalized them. A surly old gruff, Nam vet had suggested that when the temptation to get angry arose, don’t vocalize it. He said to simply “write it down” and read it later. “You’ll laugh about it later,” he quipped. I have practiced this technique for well over a quarter century, and, I must admit, I have laughed over what I wrote the day after I recorded it. Instead of on paper, electrons were my media of choice as I wrote this post in another forum.
Originally posted by kogatana:
What the h**l is going on?!!
Certainly We could have prevented this! We have the resources.
Days after the incident, I wish I HAD raised my voice. Maybe I would have felt marginally better. You see, I have just joined the elite cadre of men, women, and children who have known other men, women, and children that are not just appalled by the heinous acts of terrorists, but actually lost their lives because of those acts.
I would like to know why Specialists comments were not deleted or edited. I think his words were rather disgusting and in bad taste. Some people say less worse things and get reprimanded for it. Ridiculous.
I don't think anyone has forgotten. I happened to be watching TV from the beginning, when it still wasn't clear what happened to the first tower. I couldn't believe what I was seeing as the second plane hit. I was one of the very first people to fly the flag in my town that day. And yes, I cried.
I think Specialist was wrong in what he said but I also understand how hard 911 hit some people. My parents spent 3 months working 14-hour days with the American Red Cross as volunteers in New York after the attack. I couldn’t believe what they looked like when they got back. They worked with a lot of first responders who lost a lot of friends and coworkers that day. Some of the stories were just horrible. I can’t imagine going to work tomorrow knowing that 2/3 of the people in my office died today. There where a lot of heroes that day and the months afterwards who you will never hear about.
[ QUOTE ] PlayboyJoeShmoe said:
No WAY will I ever forget! I saw high resolution stills of people holding hands and jumping.
All those people were my 'brothers' and 'sisters'. I shall NEVER forget!
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I ask a question of you in all sincerity:
Why were people you didn't know at the WTC that day your "brothers and sisters" in a way that the Iraqi and Afghan civilians who have been killed by other American airplanes are not?
Please try to see just what I'm asking and not read too much into my question. I don't see this as a political issue per se, and I don't want or expect a political reply. It's more of a "way of seeing" difference that I think could contain a valuable lesson if I can make sense of it.
I really want to understand. Your emotions seem genuine to me, so perhaps you would be willing to explain. TIA.
This thread is one that was started in the aftermath of a terrible and unforgettable event. It should be preserved and archived in CPF as it was, not reopened in order for people to argue, flame one another and accuse one another of a lack of compasion and rememberence.
It's closed to preserve what remains of the spirit of it's intention.