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Wich converter to run on 1xCR123 or 1xRCR123

tino_ale

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Hi everyone,

I would like to build a luxIII LE for a 1x123 light. I would like it to be able to run on one primary 123 as well as one protected rechargeable li-on 123 (3.7V).

I understand a nexgen cannot run on li-on to power a luxIII (please correct me if I'm wrong), because the input voltage cannot be hight than the output voltage.

So which converter would do for me? Wiz2?

Oh, and BTW I would like a regulated current of 750 or maybe 1000mA.

Thanks a lot for your help :candle:
 

wasBlinded

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A Nexgen 750 or 1000 will be fine with a Li-ion cell. The 750 will initially run out of regulation and in direct drive, sending somewhat more than 750 mA to a J bin Luxeon, but as the cell voltage drops it will continue to deliver 750 mA to the LED. I think the Nexgen is a better choice for single cell CR123/RCR123 lights driven at these levels than a Wiz2. If output with a CR123 is not critical, and you will use Li-ion primarily, the Wiz2 ifs fine.
 

tino_ale

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Thanks wasBlinded for your help,

Still I'm not sure I understand the out-of-regulation thing with NG 750.

- Is the NG converted a boost only converter, so when the input is higher than the Vf of the led, it goes into direct driving? (I guess that would explain this behaviour with li-ion rechargeable)
- What will happen with a NG1000 running on a li-ion : will the output current go higher than 1Amp?
- is there anything wrong with the wiz2 that makes the NG better for 1 cell application?

By the way, I would like to drive TX0H leds. In the future, I may consider driving Cree leds also...

Thanks again!
 

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By the way, CR123 running at 1A is near impossible. At 1A, the voltage will sag to 2.4V and almost no converter will hold regulation.
 

wasBlinded

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tino_ale said:
Thanks wasBlinded for your help,

Still I'm not sure I understand the out-of-regulation thing with NG 750.

- Is the NG converted a boost only converter, so when the input is higher than the Vf of the led, it goes into direct driving?
Yes, minus the slight resistance of the convertor circuit

- What will happen with a NG1000 running on a li-ion : will the output current go higher than 1Amp?
It might with a low Vf lux, like a TXOH

- is there anything wrong with the wiz2 that makes the NG better for 1 cell application?
The Wiz2 will shut down at 2.5 volts, well before a CR123 is fully discharged. This is to protect Li-ion cells.
 

tino_ale

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Thanks a lot, I understand now :twothumbs

I guess I will have to choose between CR123 and RCR123 primarily use... until the GD converter become available.
 

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I have a NG750 which I run on Li-ion all the time. It has a UWOJ Luxeon and does just fine in an Aleph2. Even your TXOH would probably be fine with a Li-ion cell, but prolonged runtimes might be stressing it because of the current it would draw. Still, a T bin Lux is pretty cheap these days. IF you want to be safe, you could do it fine with a J bin Luxeon, or even a K bin.
 
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