bwaites said:
Let's see you take those other lights and throw them as far as you can, while they are lit, and see how many of them stay lit!
PK did just that with the Beast, and while I wasn't there, those that were said it went WAY up in the air and a LONG way down the street and kept right on running!
How many of you would be willing to do that with your Polarians, Costco HIDs, Xeray, Helios, Rayzorlites, Amondotechs, etc? I have two of those, and I ain't gonna try it with either!
The Beast is what it is, and cost what it cost, period!
No one else I know of makes a light that WE can buy that will take the abuse the Beast and Hellfighter can, at ANY price!
Bill
I would be fine with doing that with BVH's Helios once it is fitted with the same type of monster playschool looking rubber baby bumbers that come with the beast.
(He may not be fine with it
). I know about the demonstration. Mr. Ted Bear told me about it and he was there, I am under the understanding the beast had it's bumbers on. If I remember correctly, they were on a third floor balcony and PK threw it up as far as he could. The light did suffer some internal damage, I believe to the battery holder, but still worked. Mr Ted Bear or another person that was there is welcome to correct me if I got the details wrong.
It seems to me that is a better demonstration of Surefire's removeable shock isolation system then the light itself.
Sort of like Charlotte's web being a better demonstration of a brilliant spider then "some pig" .
Try that with a Beast without the rubber bumbers and I will be real impressed.
A fenix surived 10 story drop down an elevator shaft. That is impressive.
Let's also remember that was the original Beast not the Beast 2 with it's increased circuitry and LED's in the reflector.
As far as I am concerned the new Beast 2 needs to proove itself rather then rest on it's predessor's laurels.
The last time I saw a new in the case Beast on Ebay it went for just under $3,000.
Now apparently the new Beast has a Polarion X1 or two XeRays worth of improvements. :thinking:
Maybe the new rubber can handle being tossed from a six story building
.
Have LED prices gone up that much since I have been primarily hanging out in the Spotlight Forum?
This is another perfect example of what Windstrings has been saying in the Helios thread. I will change the words to apply to the Beast 2
Okay the Beast 2 is an improvement over the Beast, please show me where the new improvements justify what seems to be close to a $2,000 price increase. Have materials really gone up that much?
I have been told there have been numerous versions of the Beast that never made it into the hands of the public. They were made for specific agencies with specific needs. That kind of custom work certainly does carry a price tag.
Aside from that, I still believe the main reason for the High Price of the Surefires and Polarions is to have the margins necessary for the agency and quantity discounts a company needs to provide to deal with the government or large corporations.
Surefire has other things that Polarion does not.
Size and a reputation.
A good reputation goes a long way to promote a product.
Just like you using a test of the original Beast to declare how tough this one is.
There just have not been years of Helios production to proove it's long term quality and reliability yet.
For that matter I do not know if enough Helios's and X1's have been made to get them out of the new product growing pains phase yet.
I am sure the Beast 2 is a wonderful light.
I personally think it is rather ugly with its square ballast box.
It is also not compact enough for my purposes so even if I had the money for searchlight purchases I would pass on a Beast 2 and buy an X1 expedition package, a 50 watt XeRay and have a custom high efficiancy reflector made for it like the Polarion reflectors, a X990 and still have lots of money left over.
Take Care,
mtbkndad :wave: