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    Default Wolf Eyes Boxer 24W HID *beam shots added*

    I posted this in the review section, but I'll put it here too for now since I'm sure there are a few people looking for info on the torch.

    Wolf Eyes Boxer 24W /168R HID Flashlight





    Purchased from http://www.pts-flashlights.com



    Specs



    Housing B24/168 Ballast/Battery housing

    Output power 1800 lumens

    Continuous runtime 60 minutes

    Beam Divergence 6° ~ 16°

    Lamp Assembly Metal Halide

    Colour Temp 6000K

    Battery type 3 x LRB-168A Li-ion battery

    Tail cap Tactical Button Switch

    Body Diameter 44mm

    Bezel Diameter 77mm

    Weight with battery 560g

    Length 193mm

    Body Material Aircraft grade aluminium

    Finish Hard Anodised

    Water resistant O-ring sealed (Splash proof)

    Replacement bulb B2 24W HID

    Charger CH-121B AC (Input: AC 90-240V, 60/50Hz)

    DH-121B DC (Vehicle charger Input: DC 8.5~16V)



    Construction

    The construction does seem very good. On my model there is one very small ‘nick/defect’ in the finish on the exterior of the body and the outer glass casing of the bulb itself does not appear to be perpendicular to the base, but the element inside seems better. I’m not to sure to what extent this off perpendicular aspect to the bulb contributes to the messy light pattern – the hotspot, when altering the degree of beam divergence does move about a bit. The inside of the glass lens in unclean and could do with a wipe, but I would need a tool to turn the bezel ring holding it in place and I’ve not tried to remove it yet. There is a small opening at the base of the glass encasing the bulb element that I don’t know whether it should be there or not. Other than that, the finish and construction to my eyes appears very good. Everything fits together well and feels sturdy, threads all move smoothly and the outer finish is very nice. I have used this in steady rain too with no problems.



    The batteries fit in a holder of the type we are familiar with here on CPF, in the form of circular disks connected with metal rods, in this case with the addition of the charging jack and clicky switch. On that note, in order to charge the battery pack the tail cap has to be removed in order to insert the charging plug (the supplied AC adapter works in the UK too). This does mean that if you purchase a spare battery holder then a spare set of cells can be charged whilst the torch is in use. You could of course use another appropriate Li-ion charger, but I’d recommend getting a spare holder when they become available, cost permitting.



    Usage

    Start-up, well this seems slow to me, although this is the first HID I’ve ever used. Immediately after pressing the on button (tail cap, clicky on/off) there is a bit of a bright flash, which I hadn’t noticed at first (you’ve been warned, so don’t look into the lens like I did wondering what the initial purple tint looked like ) this then changes to a weak purple light. This slowly gets brighter and whiter, after 5 seconds there is still very little light, at 15 seconds it’s at above 50% and reaches full brightness by about 30 seconds.



    The beam pattern itself, as I’d already alluded to, is somewhat messy – but not stock Mag territory though. When focussing for the tightest hot spot it is a bit tricky to find the best position and even when found, in my model, it is not very smooth, we are talking white wall hunting here though and this is much less of an issue in real use. There is a purple/pale brown ring around the edge of the hotspot which is visible at times in real use, but again isn’t noticeable unless shone on smooth light surfaces – and you are looking for it. Beyond the central hotspot, the wide side spill comprises three concentric rings, the inner most having less luminance than the next, which has slightly more than the outer most. The side spill is plenty for illuminating the ground in front of you when out walking. The method for altering the beam divergence is to rotate the bezel-reflector assembly of the torch. When screwed down fully you get a divergent beam, with a large hole in the middle and the metal return wire for the bulb casting a shadow. Unscrew the head about 3 complete turns and you’ll get an acceptable floody beam with no hole or return wire shadow, give it another turn an a half and your about where the best focus is. Give it a few more turns and you’ve got the head in one hand and the body in the other! I tend to like my light set for best throw and if I changed it, I then found it a bit difficult to find the best position again when out in the fields – if you can find something of a big enough uniform light colour then no problem, just not so easy in this English winter’s muted countryside.



    The tightness of the beam when focussed best is good for medium and medium far distances, giving a good wide coverage, but I can’t help think the engineers who put this thing together could have got more out of it. There is such a lot of light coming out the end of this torch; if it could be controlled a bit better it would make a great thrower. To put things into context though, this torch stomps all over my mag85 with a Fivemega 3 inch head with LOP reflector (which also runs on 3 168 Li-ions) it must be putting out twice the lumens, which also look much better because of the whiteness of the HID bulb. The diameter of the Wolf Eyes bezel is only slightly smaller than my FM3H head (actual reflector sizes respectively 63mm to 71mm) and the orange peel finish is a bit deeper/larger on the Wolf Eyes.



    This being my first HID torch, I am well pleased with the whiteness of the bulb, that said though, after only a few days of ownership, I already understand why a lot of people here want to see bulbs with 5000K temps or lower. It seems to me that the blue tint is not best suited to bringing out detail in the green colours in natural vegetation – but in other environments it can appear very white. If shone up into the sky you can clearly see the blue tint (handy if you want to be Luke Skywalker…). When I’ve used my FM3H Mag85 and the boxer at the same time the whiter light and amount of it coming from the latter really make the poor 85 look pathetic, this is in large part due to the fact that the 85 just looks so yellow in comparison.



    I carried out a run time test using a freshly charged set of batteries (the 2200mAH it came supplied with) and it shut of at 53 minutes, so not quite the 60 minutes. (edited to say that this was with a set of cell charged in the supplied magazine, however, where other people have charged each cell independantly to avoid balancing issues, they have reported the full hour runtime.) My test was in doors and after about 15 minutes the body around the ballast and the base of the head was quite hot, it got hotter still and eventually I went and waved it out the window in the cold winter air, as it was getting a bit too hot to hold. Earlier I’d taken the dog for a walk and ran the torch till it shut off and there was absolutely no problem with heat, the cold air keeping it to slightly warm. It took about 2 ½ hours to re-charge depleted batteries and you can top them of if they are only part used. The charger has a built in protection system and can be left continuously charging the battery magazine if so desired.



    I’m very impressed with the compact size and light weight of this unit – it really is coat pocketable. In fact for my tastes it is almost too small, I kind of like having the heft of my Magcharger – big enough to dish out a good dose of head hurt if needed . When I went out for walk tonight, it was the first time I took just the Boxer (and my dog, who is, er…a boxer!) and after normally having either the Magcharger or my Mag 6D ROP with FM3H I felt like I was missing something, felt strangely unburdened, a bit naked almost, but it was nice to carry so little.



    If I wasn’t already used to the light levels from my other bright lights (Mag85, 6D ROP, MC60) I think I’d be pretty stunned by this light. Initially after I received it, after waiting for about a month for it to arrive, I’d gotten high expectations of it, particularly after being hit for another £55 customs charges, this made the torch a LOT of money for me. I thought the beam was more messy than I expected it to be, the bulb seemed off centre and I was surprised at how much I didn’t like the start up time. The reality is though the small size of the torch just negates all of those issues, for me. And the truth is, the beam in real use isn’t messy, just lacks a bit of throw (I'm sure it has the potential to throw further) and I don’t really need instant on. My friends at least will be thankful of that due to my disposition to surprise attacks of the old light in their eyes wheeze. This is a very nice torch and if you can justify the money then I say get one, you'll definately like it



    That’s enough for now. Phew!



    I will get some beam shots up soon too, with comparisons with my Mag85, ROP and MC60 for what it’s worth.



    And if there is anyone here in Blighty with either the AE Powerlight or Microfire Warrior lights that are close enough to Coventry and want to meet up or lend me their torches then I’ll do beam shots of those (I’ve got good camera stuff).

    Torches below are the Surefire C3 with KL3 head, FM 3 pila 168 fatbody with FM3H head, MagCharger60 and 6D Mag ROP with FM3H


















    And finally some beam shots

    The full set can be found here onwards http://www.pbase.com/mart_williams/image/72976223


    The candidates were a 3.5 million CP lamp (the big yellow plastic thing) and the torches above.

    I'll post 3 here. All with locked exposure and with white balance set to 6000K

    A) "thor" style lamp (3.5 million candle power written on the side, 7 nich reflector)



    B) Boxer



    C) Mag85 (FM3H)




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    Last edited by English_Mart; 01-15-2007 at 08:55 AM.
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    Nice review. You are the first to test the actual runtime. The K2000R was also off by 7 minutes. It claimed 50 minutes but delivered 43 minutes. Maybe when battery technology advances these 18650=168a=600p cells will deliver longer runtimes.
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    Default Re: Wolf Eyes Boxer 24W HID

    Wow, great review.

    I got my Boxer (also 24W version) from PTS just before Christmas. Mine also has the little cutout in the HID bulb's outer glass envelope (and i too wondered if this is intentional or not )

    Runtime (continuous) was somewhere between 50-55 minutes, I don't remember exactly. After the light shut off, one of the Li-Ion cells measured significantly lower voltage than the other two (3.2V vs. 3.7V) I still didn't get around to trying to charge the three cells independently for a second runtime test. Maybe this weekend...

    This is also my only HID. The only thing I can compare it to are high power halogen lights. Judging by eye (ceiling bounce) the Boxer seems to put out a bit more light than a 64610 running at 13V but is stomped of course by the almighty 62138 (13V also). Compared to the halogens the Boxer's heat build-up is amazingly low considering the amount of light it puts out.

    Marcus

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    Default Re: Wolf Eyes Boxer 24W HID

    Why so little info on the Boxer 10W? Every topic here is about 24w version...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outdoors Fanatic
    Why so little info on the Boxer 10W? Every topic here is about 24w version...
    I'm just giving a review on the torch I bought. Couldn't say why there are no threads about the 10W.....

    Anyway, I'm about to update my first post with a few pics, but no beam shots yet....
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    Quote Originally Posted by English_Mart
    I'm just giving a review on the torch I bought. Couldn't say why there are no threads about the 10W.....

    Anyway, I'm about to update my first post with a few pics, but no beam shots yet....
    whre did you get it i am in the midlands also. regards john.

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    Hi John, good to see someone local eh , click the link near the top of my thread, or this one http://www.pts-flashlights.com/produ...d=1-17-74-6236 that will take you straight to the item on their site.

    If you sign up there and then contact Mike, ( board name here Mike@PTS ) and let him know you are registered here on CPF he should sort you out with a 10% discount.

    Where abouts in the Midlands are by the way.

    Mart
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    Thanks for the great review and good to see you back after your long CPF absence.
    I'm looking forward to your beam shots.

    Sigbjoern

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lurveleven
    Thanks for the great review and good to see you back after your long CPF absence.
    I'm looking forward to your beam shots.

    Sigbjoern
    Hi Sig. Thanks for the welcome I've been back for a couple of months, punishing the wallet a bit

    I've got some beam shots to post - but I've just tried twice and killed that piece of crap explorer both times. I'll try again shortly.
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    English Mart,im looking at geting the 10wat.howmuch did the uk coustoms sting you in import duty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by petersmith6
    English Mart,im looking at geting the 10wat.howmuch did the uk coustoms sting you in import duty?
    £55 (£13.50 of which was the UK delivery company charging to collect what the Customs wanted w@nkers!! the rest was VAt and inmport duty)
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    Default Re: Wolf Eyes Boxer 24W HID *beam shots added*

    Thanks for the review, I especially appreciated your experience with focusing the beam. Mine just showed up a couple hours ago. I had to let it sit and warm up awhile as the temperature was below zero (fahrenheit) in the mailman's trunk - I was almost tempted to see if my tongue would get stuck to the metal body. Nice build quality and I like the battery magazine charger. The holster was a pleasant surprise and is very useful. Trying to fiddle with the beam focus indoors is an exercise in futility, although it does produce a kaleidoscope of colors. Tonight I will use the 100' machine shed as a focusing target at various distances.

    Here's a shot with a LumaPower DX1, Rattlesnake M90X, and Tigerlight FBOP:


    And the handy holster that came with it:


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    Excellent beam shots! The comparision with the FM3H Mag85 was really helpful.
    I'm putting Boxer on my shopping list.

    Sigbjoern

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    Default Re: Wolf Eyes Boxer 24W HID *beam shots added*

    Quote Originally Posted by westfork
    The holster was a pleasant surprise and is very useful.

    And the handy holster that came with it:


    westfork - Where did you buy your Boxer that you got a holster with it?

    Did not come with mine from http://www.pts-flashlights.com/produ...7-74-6236&tb=4

    Thanks for any info,
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    Default Re: Wolf Eyes Boxer 24W HID *beam shots added*

    Bill, I got it from Mike at PTS - great to deal with! I was wondering why no one else posted pictures of the holster. Mine is fresh in from overseas so maybe the holsters for the Boxer are a recent item.
    westfork

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    Quote Originally Posted by westfork
    Bill, I got it from Mike at PTS - great to deal with! I was wondering why no one else posted pictures of the holster. Mine is fresh in from overseas so maybe the holsters for the Boxer are a recent item.
    westfork
    I was going to ask if you'd ordered that extra. I never got one either, didn't expect to. Did you pay the new higher price or the introductory price?

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    Default Re: Wolf Eyes Boxer 24W HID *beam shots added*

    I paid the introductory price. As I said, this was in customs last week and just shipped so maybe the holsters just arrived. Also, I placed another order for the Rattlesnake M90X special (great deal at $49.95!) and 168 extension kit at about the same time. I told Mike to hold this and ship with the Boxer when it came in. Of course the web site added shipping charges for each order, and maybe Mike tossed in the holster to make up for his shipping savings by combining the orders.

    Your review really helped me find the sweet spot in beam focus. The best tight beam on mine is just past 3 rotations and good floods are from there to just past 3 1/2 rotations.
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    Default Re: Wolf Eyes Boxer 24W HID *beam shots added*

    On the PTS website, I don't see the holster either as an accessory or as an "included item" for the Boxer 24W. Sure would like to have one though!

    English_Mart, great review and beamshots! I have a few hotwires, including a 100 Watt "Mad Maxabeam" and to me, the Boxer 24W holds it's own against every one of them. I love this light! While, not particularly easy to please, I actually don't mind the 6000K color temp of the HID. Looks really white to me and makes my hotwires look "yellow". I don't mind either the startup time for the Boxer. Mine presents very usable light immediately, then progresses to a full brightness.

    All-in-all, I think I made the right choice for a first HID.

    Cheers,
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    Default Re: Wolf Eyes Boxer 24W HID *beam shots added*

    Bill, I agree with you on both points. The beam color doesn't seem blue at all in actual use when focused. Also, from earlier threads I though the Boxer would be useless until at least 15 seconds after startup. Well, it immediately comes on like a purple LED light of moderate output and quickly brightens up from there - Enough instant light to survey your close surroundings. It got dark a bit ago and I have been out having fun with the Boxer. The wide spill really illuminates the small pasture by my house and easily lights up features several hundred yards away. The nearest road sign (reflectorized) is over a half mile away and it shines up stongly at that distance by the Boxer even through the house windows. I have to say that this light exceeds my expectations.

    Mike wrote me about the holster. It does not come with the Boxer and was thrown in as a freebie. It is very sturdy and is stiff enough to give good protection to the Boxer. It has both a snap and velcro on both the cover and belt loop. If it becomes a normal production item it would be well worth getting. Thanks Mike!

    Lloyd

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    Hmmm, listening to your two descriptions of how yours start up and add to the fact that mine no longer works it seems mine was not right from the start. It was always very weak light initially and slowly built up after that.

    All I get out of mine now is a faint buzzing sound and absolutely no light.

    I'm going to try and get my hands on a multi-meter and see what voltage I get from the connectors for the bulb leads. Hopefully this will give me (well Mike at PTS) a clue as to whether it's the bulb or the ballast that's failed.

    Think I'd like one of those pouches too. How comfortable is it to wear?

    Mart
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    Default Re: Wolf Eyes Boxer 24W HID *beam shots added*

    Probably not a good idea to measure the voltage that goes to the bulb as it can be very high voltage (several thousand volts), may blow the multimeter and/or hurt yourself.
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    hi mart did you get my pm yesterday.

    regards john.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TITAN1833
    hi mart did you get my pm yesterday.

    regards john.
    I did indeed, replied too, but it must have got eaten up by the tinterspaceweb stuff

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    Default Re: Wolf Eyes Boxer 24W HID *beam shots added*

    English_Mart,

    sorry to hear about your Boxer, hopefully Mike gets it sorted out quickly.

    I just did a runtime test on my Boxer 24W, with the Li-Ion cells charged individually to avoid balancing issues. This is kLux at 1m but the beam was not set for the smallest angle so these are not the maximum throw numbers the Boxer can achieve. It made it past the one hour mark:



    I wanted to show the startup time in this graph but it didn't turn out too good because my light meter doesn't have auto range. Most of the gap at the beginning is me positioning and switching on the light.

    Marcus

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSI
    Probably not a good idea to measure the voltage that goes to the bulb as it can be very high voltage (several thousand volts), may blow the multimeter and/or hurt yourself.
    Well that's put me off trying for the minute.

    Anybody else have a comment on either whether it's definately a bad idea to try and use a multimeter to check the voltage coming out of the ballast - as far as I know the operational voltage isn't so high, but I don't know about the start up process and what I might be trying to measure without the bulb load in place - infact I'm a multi meter novice so don't even know if I would be setting a resistance on the meter first (was thinking of buting a meter for this purpose and maybe furture hotwire stuff - but I'm holding fire on that for now).

    Hmmmmm, tis a brand new torch, so I don't wanna do anything that could bugger up the warantee either
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    Cant See a problem, if the leads on you multimeter, have in line fuses surley,these are a first line defence, for high voltage surges,fluresent lights,on switch on, can be initailly 1000 volts they to use ballast.but you should not test, voltages higher than the rated max on you muti meter anyway.hope this helps a little. really though if in doubt leave it out.and get a replacement.its under guarantee yes.

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    Hi Marcus, thanks for the usefull contribution to this thread.

    I'd though the Boxer HID was regulated and therefore would give a constant light output throughout the run time. You graph clearly indicates it steadily drops off and by almost a third. That does suprise me.


    Quote Originally Posted by quantile
    English_Mart,

    sorry to hear about your Boxer, hopefully Mike gets it sorted out quickly.

    I just did a runtime test on my Boxer 24W, with the Li-Ion cells charged individually to avoid balancing issues. This is kLux at 1m but the beam was not set for the smallest angle so these are not the maximum throw numbers the Boxer can achieve. It made it past the one hour mark:



    I wanted to show the startup time in this graph but it didn't turn out too good because my light meter doesn't have auto range. Most of the gap at the beginning is me positioning and switching on the light.

    Marcus
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    Mart,

    I too was surprised to see it drop off by at least 30%. My PL14 output is at 100% during the whole runtime: http://www.flashlightreviews.com/rev...light_pl14.htm

    & so is the PL24/S: http://www.flashlightreviews.com/rev...light_pl24.htm

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    Default Re: Wolf Eyes Boxer 24W HID *beam shots added*

    Quote Originally Posted by English_Mart
    Hmmm, listening to your two descriptions of how yours start up and add to the fact that mine no longer works it seems mine was not right from the start. It was always very weak light initially and slowly built up after that.

    Think I'd like one of those pouches too. How comfortable is it to wear?

    Mart
    The holster is very comfortable. It feels a little like having a 1911 on your hip except much lighter in weight but protrudes out from your body farther. I slid it back to just behind my right hip and was unaware of it being there. I didn't try sitting or driving with it on.

    Just came in from checking on cattle using the Boxer. I LOVE THIS LIGHT!!! Very white with lots of spill - like creating your own daylight. As to your questions on start-up light. Definitely produces useable light right away and by four seconds the beam is fairly white and can identify objects at 200 yards, just not with a wide spill yet. During the first 30 seconds there are 4 or five momentary bursts of brownish light that come with each step-up in output - not noticeable unless you are looking for them. I haven't seen any of the blue color that shows in your beam shots. Out in the grove with snow on the ground all I can see is a clear white beam that brings out the colors of the trees almost like daylight. It is more towards the blue rather than yellow spectrum but very pleasing and no blue bands as in your beam shot. Also, even adjusted for long throw, my Boxer produces a lot of spill and the trees in your beam shot would be totally and evenly illuminated instead of the "tunnel vision" yours shows. Your shots are similar to the output during early warm-up in mine.

    Don't count on this light to keep your hands warm. It's not that cold tonight (10 f) and the housing felt cold to my bare hands even after 30 minutes of continuous operation.

    Sorry to hear about your issues, but I am sure that Mike will treat you well.
    westfork
    Last edited by westfork; 01-14-2007 at 05:27 PM.

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    Default Re: Wolf Eyes Boxer 24W HID *beam shots added*

    O.K.
    firing the ballast without the bulb in place will sent it to the crap heap for sure.
    I do believe that the ballast needs the bulb in place to fire safely and firing into a Multimeter is not safe.
    Charge your cells and try again if not send it back fo a new one. make sure to include your original duty paperwork, and get the supplier to include a letter with the replacement to the effect so you do not get nailed on taxes again

    David

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