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    Default When does it end???

    I am but a novice, I always carried minimags and was happy. I started converting them to LED, they where great, but could not stand up to the punishment of a two year old (and my wife letting him) beating them on a hardwood floor! Nite eze and two versions of luxeons, all failed. I have a Streamlight TT 3 aa, nice light, but hard to carry in a pocket, great in my truck!! More D Mags than I care to count seldom used anymore BTW. I purchased a SF E2W on close out, loved it, but wanted a clickie, thats done, I love this light, and my two year old has yet to hurt it, impressive!!! I just bought a SF L1 and have it comming, love the durability of LED, and think an ARC AAA would just be the cats meow, hand size, easy cheap batteries. And would make a great backup if I forgot batteries for one of the SF's.
    Then I keep finding myself dran to the HDS lights listed for sale!! I dont understand my fascination with these lights, they are entirely to expensive to be practical for my use. EDC as a contractor, lost/misplaced and beaten hard!!! I am already wearing the anodizing off of my E2W only after two months. But yet I feel the NEED for one.
    Then I look in the mod section and see all the things that are being done to the Mags, so I think "Gee, here sit all these lights, what could I have done to them?"
    Does this ever end, or do I need to finish my transaction, and loose the link to this site? Am I doomed to be a flashaholic? I rember when I first started reading this forum and laughing at some of you when you counted out carrying 10-12 lights on you all the time! I am afraid I am becoming that way now!!!
    HELP!!!!!!!
    My Mags aren't very impressive anymore!

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    It's scary too when you buy a light on impulse and it surprises you. You think, this light is not like people said it was! So now your resistance to buying a light has just become weaker! Even if you don't need it, like the styling, the runtime, or the twisty/clickie...it will call your name like a screaming child!!

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    you have to be strong bro.gc.
    'Whatever you do to the least of my torches, you do to me'

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    Heh, it was proposed elswhere here that flashlights should be torture tested by letting young children play with them, if a light can handle being bashed around by a 2 year old, it should be able to take anything....

    that said, I wouldn't let a child play with *any* of my expensive SureFires, especially not a rare Winelight series, i have some cheapo plastic lights with MJLED's in them that i let my niece and nephew borrow, however, Logan (my 4 yr old nephew) always manages to find my Minimags with the Nite Ize 3 LED upgrades and plays with them, he likes them better than the plastic lights, Sage, (my 2 yr old niece), happily plays with the plastic lights, she hasn't discovered "better" lights yet....

    that said, there's no way in Hades that *either* of them will touch any of my SureFires, not until they're older and can appreciate nice lights, besides, given the uncontrollable urge one has to look into a illuminated flashlight, to "see how bright it is", my SureFires are too bright for their young eyes

    why not get your kid his own plastic light, maybe a shakelight, something that can make use of all that kinetic energy, it'd save wear-and-tear on your precious SureFires.....

    as far as leaving CPF, and escaping the "Curse of the Flashaholic"?, i'm afraid it's already too late, you came in, you posted a thread, you're infected now, resistance is futile.....

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    Quick! You must leave this website, and never return! Block it from your computer, and go to a hypnotist to try and forget! Throw away all of your good lights, keep only the Mags! No LED upgrades too, just the basic incandescents! You're just in the early stages of flashaholism, you can still make it! Leave! We are doomed, but you can live a normal life, if you get out now! Good luck, brave seoul. Oh no! Look at that! I'm getting worse... I see a light at the end of a tunnel... What's that? Buy out old L1s? But I can't afford it...gah, can't resist! Helppp... Meeee...

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    My kid has his own light my wife this it's funny to give him mine and laughs when it gets boken!! (they are stored out of his reach) Not happy about that at all!! As far as the rareity of the winelight, I got mine on a close out through LA Police gear and I saw it as an oportunity to buy into a good light for cheap. I bought it for use, not the pretty factor!! (Sorry to all of you purists out there!) I see lights as tools, to be used, they may not look pretty at the end of the day, but thye function fine, and that matters most to me! That is probably the main reason I don't have an HDS yet actually!
    My Mags aren't very impressive anymore!

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    When does it end, he querries? When they're tossing dirt onto your coffin!

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    Default Re: When does it end???

    Quote Originally Posted by fnmag
    When does it end, he querries? When they're tossing dirt onto your coffin!

    Yeah but it's dark in there.I have it in my will that I need me and a hotwire in my coffin!(it's cold in there to)
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    Quote Originally Posted by big beam
    Yeah but it's dark in there.I have it in my will that I need me and a hotwire in my coffin!(it's cold in there to)
    DON
    Good point, I need to let my Wife know that which lights to include in the coffin!


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    Re: When does it end???

    Eventually you spend $399 on an M6 and your wife kills you.
    "The light pours out of me"

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    I hope I never see the day when I spend more than 150 in one plunk on a single light.
    There. That doesn't limit the amount of modding I do.

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    I think it will at least slow down when you find the light that meets your needs and makes other lights not as appealing. I have to say that when I started last year I was buying new lights quite frequently. After I got my HDS U60 XRGT and McLux III PD, I have not bought any other lights for myself. I do admit that I bought and tried a couple of new ones here and there but I sold them pretty quick. Hopefully you will find the one or two lights that will slow you down (I say slow down because it can never really stop).
    I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

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    Default Re: When does it end???

    Its never ends,

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    TORCH is right...

    I just got another light that I really didn't need, an E2e. Never mind that I aready have 3 (E2D, E2O, and E2). After I ordered it I had buyers remorse. But when I checked online and found out it was delivered I came to work on my day off just to pick it up. What buyer's remorse?! It replaces the 6P in my backpack. Now the 6P and full SC1 is now in my vacation luggage. I will be spending 22 days in Turkey traveling with my lovely wife next month and I needed a bright "just in case" light. If the 6P is lost, stolen, confiscated or gifted, it will not kill me, although it would suck royally (unless of course I gave it away, sometimes you have to be a good ambassador).

    Now I "needed" the E2e because I fly alot in California for work and I am always worried my beloved E2D will be taken away by the TSA. I've been flying with it since I got it in 2004.

    The E2O is needed as an emergancy light in my at work earthquake kit. Its a backup to the L2 I have enhanced my kit with. You know how un-reliable they can be (tongue firmly planted in cheek)!

    The E2 now sports a E2e bezel and is just to pretty to get beat to hell like the other E2x's in my collection.

    Don't get me started on what I did to my 9P...

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    Default Re: When does it end???

    It doesn't end. You start looking at everything you have .... I'm now eyeballing my several old Diamond Industries flashlights -- not sure if they're still available; flat -- less than an inch deep square case, use a 6v bi-pin filament lamp in a fairly deep socket, with a 4" square side filled with a huge Fresnel-like lens.

    Can't just drop a bi-pin LED in easily, socket's too deep; I did rewire one as 2x2AA (3v), and it works OK with a SMJLED -- nice spotlight, long life, but not, erm, thrilling.

    But the huge lens even on the 4xAA size is sooooo tempting for a side-emitter LED and there's room for a big, big heatsink, like 4" square, behind the lens.

    (Don't want to heat up the batteries, hmmmmm).

    "Diamond Industries Light .... said to be designed by Physics people. The flashlight is square ... no reflector.... front surface looks like a type of Fresnel lens, but actually is not ... total internal reflection from prism surfaces is used to bend the light.
    Two sizes -- 4 AA cells or 4 D cells. The 4D is maybe a 6" square lens.

    Somebody start a thread if you're going to do one, I wanta follow along ....

    See, any flashlight you have can always be improved. And we're chasing an industry that's changing freakishly fast.

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    To be honest, I like messing with lights and modding them and either selling them or giving them away. Not to make any money, just as something to do with my spare time at night since I'm a registered and licensed insomniac. I have an HDS Basic42 modded with an SSC. Probably ~80-100 lumens on high, ~20 lumens on primary which is bright enough for almost anything I regularly need and ~8 lumens on secondary which is what I honestly use the most. The light itself is basically bulletproof, waterproof and dead realiable. When cells get depleted, the output steps down to the next of 19-20 levels so you should pretty much never be left in the dark because of used cells and it provides dead flat regulation on all levels. You get to choose the output level on each level to customize it for your own uses if you don't feel they are adequate as stock. Other than the fact that they aren't cheap and that the 18650 bodies are so fricking expensive, I think they are the perfect light.

    I don't think it really ever ends though. I see newer members complaining that the L2D CE doesn't have enough runtime. Or that the L1D CE isn't bright enough. LED lights such as either of these were literally almost unimaginable a couple years ago. When the L1P and QIII first came out, people basically went ga ga over them. Now those lights (in their stock form) seem like relics only kept for sentimental reasons, if at all. I guess when LEDs are so effecient that a single alkaline AA cell can produce 200 lumens for 24 hours, that will be about perfection. But then, more members will come along complaining that they aren't bright enough or they want even longer runtime.

    On a related note, my ex wife would poop out a brick (actually, probably a cinder block!) and probably pull out half of her hair if she saw any of the kids banging a piece of aluminum against their hardwood floors.
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    I wanted a reliable, long-running small light for my keychain. That's all.

    Today, I have 5 foreign orders on the way over here, all containing flashlights, I think. I'm not quite sure what's in one of them...
    .sig? I don't need no steenkin' .sig!

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    Default Re: When does it end???

    Until they make a light that:
    - runs on it's internal nuclear reactor for 30years of continuous runtime
    - produce anything between 1 and 10000000lumen
    - can be set to any color temperature between 1000K and 16000K
    - fits your keychain (or rather can be put in any body you like)
    - can throw thousands of yards even on a low setting
    - can also do floody beams
    - gets stronger with every drop
    - is 100% reliable (yes, the actual 100%, not 99.999999%, but 100%)

    it will never end.
    Last edited by defusion; 04-02-2007 at 05:35 PM.

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    end?!?!?!?!?!?!

    It'll end when I have a shapeshifting light that changes into whatever the heck I want!!!
    All started with a streamlight keymate...CPF, NOW LOOK WHAT YOU HAVE DONE!...embarking on the journey for a real light...better than surefire ...making pathetic attempt searching for the ultimate aa cough-cree cough cough ion cough

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    I think an A2 might be kinda handy, the new JetBeams sure are cool!! Would like to get a Fenix to see what all the fuss is about. The 6p's are fairly cheap anymore, be a good backup light. Think I need to get a Huntlight, they are cheap enough, and see how the quality compares to SF.
    Oh, and the HDS keeps calling my name!!!!!!!

    I am afraid I am a lost cause!!!
    My Mags aren't very impressive anymore!

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    I became pretty content after breaking down and getting a L4 and a M6.... these lights are so good it is pretty hard, I think, to very excited about any other lights anymore.
    Joe Sixpack justifies buying Chicom at Walmart because he can't find a decent paying job.... and he still hasn't made the connection....

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    Yeah, I just went to Sportsman's Warehouse last night, and talked to the guy there for like 15 minutes about lights and had a playaround with all the lights there including the surefires. All I can say is that I am now hooked...

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    SF are just a pleasure to hold. Lucky for me Plaza CUtlery has yet to sell their SF collection which contains both the E2W and the E1W.
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    A bit off topic, but does anyone else sense the lack of understanding of sales people when you ask to look at each light in the cabinet separately? And then together? And then you take one apart to see how hard the LED is to swap?
    If it smells too good to be true, you probably aren't at home...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danintex
    A bit off topic, but does anyone else sense the lack of understanding of sales people when you ask to look at each light in the cabinet separately? And then together? And then you take one apart to see how hard the LED is to swap?
    Trust me, all sales persons know a little about a lot. Hardly anyone knows alot about a little.
    The latter is usually more expensive to hire, as specialised knowledge should.
    Would you be willing to spend more money on a surefire just because you can talk to a sales person who actually knows something?

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    The guy I talked to at sportsman's seemed pretty well rounded in his knowledge, he accepted me wanting to see a bunch of lights at a time, twas a good time, he had all kinds of upgrades in the lights he had to show too, so that was sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by customh
    The guy I talked to at sportsman's seemed pretty well rounded in his knowledge, he accepted me wanting to see a bunch of lights at a time, twas a good time, he had all kinds of upgrades in the lights he had to show too, so that was sweet.
    Those are the people with a genuine interest in whatever they sell, there aren't to many of those.
    Except in specialized shops ofcourse, like RC shops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 65535
    SF are just a pleasure to hold. Lucky for me Plaza CUtlery has yet to sell their SF collection which contains both the E2W and the E1W.


    Forgive my ignorance, but what is the stigma with the wine lights? Like I said, LA Police gear was practicly giving them away (for an E2E that is), I just figured it was a good way to get one cheap.

    Good to know thatSportsmans wharehous carries them!!! Had one open up not long ago, hadn't had time to go in. The only other place is a police supply shop around here, but they are always telling me that they are back ordered due to war needs?
    Now if I could find somebody that carries JetBeam, Fenix etc. so I can handle them and see what lights I need to find a home for!!!
    My Mags aren't very impressive anymore!

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    Default Re: When does it end???

    Fenix-store(not tax or shipping) sells Fenix, As for jetbeam, Dealextreme had them for cheap and they also sell a bunch of other stuff, Eilimon(Spelling?) has not been responding so you best bet is to buy from CPF in the Buy/Sell/Trade section(B/S/T). Lighthound sells Fenix, Huntlight, and a bunch of others. Batteryjunction sells all kinds of stuff(look at the Terralux maglite upgrade espically this one) Malkoff, Milkyspit and a few others will be able to mod you Maglite. Or a ROP for your mags will also work.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawlight
    Now if I could find somebody that carries JetBeam, Fenix etc. so I can handle them and see what lights I need to find a home for!!!
    Last edited by Gunner12; 04-03-2007 at 05:41 PM.

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    Thank you Gunner12, I've had no problem finding them online, but I would like to handle them, and have a better idea of a size comparison/functionality of the lights.
    My Mags aren't very impressive anymore!

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