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    1. To make the Maglite 0D I cut the bottom 1/2 inch of body tail threads off a 6D Mag that died (Duracells exploded due to water in the tube.)
    2. Then I beveled the cut edge of the threaded ring so it would slip into the head.
    3. I coated the first few threads in the head with epoxy and took off the bezel and lens.
    4. Then with an old tailcap threaded onto the ring I hammered it into the head.
    5. Wiped out excess epoxy and cut the reflector to fit, screwed on the lens and waited for B@RT to order the sphere... waiting... waiting...
    6. I crazy glued the sphere onto the reflector when it arrived having no more patience to wait for epoxy to dry.
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    In my childhood fortress of solitude an eeire light emerged as my eyes adjusted and BEHOLD it was worth all the wait.



    Behold the Glow!



    Behold the Throw!



    Power Source: 18mm Green Tritium Sphere
    Runtime: 12 years to 50% output
    Output: 100 EGGU*

    Okay so its only a few inches off the wall. The camera can't pic up the light it throws at distance. Let me just say in total darkness I can see my feet and everything thats not red in front of me. I almost tripped over the red haired cat but I evaded the black and white cat. Come to think of it I may have trouble finding my red haired girlfriend . Reading is possible if the eyes are dark adapted.

    Heres the setup in light. Pictures are 4sec exposure at F3.2 I think.



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    Love it

    Perhaps a tri-tritium version next?

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    Great Job

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    I wonder if batteries & LED's can do 12 years to 50% output (comparative brightness) in a host of that size. I bet it's possible.


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    Good job! It might even have better "throw" than a regular tritium torch...
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    ...the shortest D-cell mag ever

    try aspherical lens next
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    Nein!!!

    Hey you got that thing completed. I remember at the last PF that you were going to build it. Looks great my friend.

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    Default Re: Tritium Powered 0D Maglite

    Awesome!
    And no wiring or soldering skills were needed for this one either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illum_the_nation View Post
    ...the shortest mag ever

    try aspherical lens next
    Not quite the shortest. I have a tritium powered light made from a AAA minimag head and tail cap assembly.

    OOps, I meant Solitare head and tail.

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    edited for clarity
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    FerrkeeN awesome!

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    I have an idea that would make that flashlight even more awesome.

    All that is needed is a single 365nm LED (doesn't even have to be very powerful).

    The UV produced by the 365nm LED will cause the reaction of Tritium to He-3 to occur much more frequently, with more intensity. This means that you will get more intense photons being emitted from the tritium sphere. Rayleigh scattering shows us that increasing the number of incident photons does NOT increase the intensity of the light produced. However, increasing the frequency of the incident photons WILL yield a higher intensity photon being emitted.
    Now, using more 365nm LED's will obviously yield more photons being released as well. Rayleigh scattering explains why you would want to use a 365nm LED vs a 380nm or even a much lower frequency 395nm LED.

    This would give you a really cool flashlight that barely consumes any power.

    Oh, btw....this will obviously shorten the life of the tritium sphere by quite a bit. I would guess half.

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    Nice to see it finished!

    Don't forget to bring it to PF9!

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    I'm trying two of those spheres for my bedroom nightlight tonight.

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    I don't think there are any ways to speed up nuclear decay (excluding using an accelerator to smash atoms together). The UV probably just makes the phosphor glow brighter but isn't doing anything to the tritium so the half-life will be unaffected.

    Very cool project by the way. I want one even though I have no real need or use for one

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBaz View Post
    The UV produced by the 365nm LED will cause the reaction of Tritium to He-3 to occur much more frequently, with more intensity. This means that you will get more intense photons being emitted from the tritium sphere. Rayleigh scattering shows us that increasing the number of incident photons does NOT increase the intensity of the light produced. However, increasing the frequency of the incident photons WILL yield a higher intensity photon being emitted.
    Now, using more 365nm LED's will obviously yield more photons being released as well. Rayleigh scattering explains why you would want to use a 365nm LED vs a 380nm or even a much lower frequency 395nm LED.

    This would give you a really cool flashlight that barely consumes any power.

    Oh, btw....this will obviously shorten the life of the tritium sphere by quite a bit. I would guess half.
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    Yup, no easy way to speed up the decay thankfully...

    I agree with Greg, the UV led exites the phosphor wich in turn emits more photons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg_in_canada View Post
    I don't think there are any ways to speed up nuclear decay (excluding using an accelerator to smash atoms together). The UV probably just makes the phosphor glow brighter but isn't doing anything to the tritium so the half-life will be unaffected.

    Very cool project by the way. I want one even though I have no real need or use for one

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    Quote Originally Posted by tvodrd View Post
    I'm trying two of those spheres for my bedroom nightlight tonight.

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    As to UV enhanced output I tried it with one of those small freebie uv lights from Lighthound and I get a lot more light. And I was thinking about adding a UV LED in the tailcap to switch on by turning it out. Time will tell as I'm already onto another project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B@rt View Post
    Good job! It might even have better "throw" than a regular tritium torch...
    Does the torch have an optic?
    After being in the dark for 20minutes I can see very well by the glow.
    At 10' it lights up a 4' area, at 1 foot I can read a newspaper easily.

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    Yes, it has a lens, but no reflector.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carbine15 View Post
    I wonder if batteries & LED's can do 12 years to 50% output (comparative brightness) in a host of that size. I bet it's possible.
    I don't know. But I wonder how much runtime you would get from a 6D mag regulated to drive a single white 5mm LED. Hmm. A single D cell alkaline is around, what, we'll call it 20,000 mAh for easy math. Now I'm not sure on the math of exactly how the regulation works but I've got a vague idea. We'd have 9 volts but we only need around, what, 40% of that to drive the LED at 3.6v. There's some inefficiency in the circuitry so we'll just call it half. So I figure we would be drawing about 10 mA from each cell. So, um, what about 2000 hours, 83 days continous? Not exactly 10 years but not totally shabby either. And that would have a LOT more light output. If you cut the output back to something a lot dimmer, well, maybe you COULD get a few years out of it. LOL.

    Nein, I have to admit, that is a pretty cool mod. I always wanted one of those Traser things myself. Stupid NRC. *grumble*

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    but what to do with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatar28 View Post
    I don't know. But I wonder how much runtime you would get from a 6D mag regulated to drive a single white 5mm LED. Hmm. A single D cell alkaline is around, what, we'll call it 20,000 mAh for easy math. Now I'm not sure on the math of exactly how the regulation works but I've got a vague idea. We'd have 9 volts but we only need around, what, 40% of that to drive the LED at 3.6v. There's some inefficiency in the circuitry so we'll just call it half. So I figure we would be drawing about 10 mA from each cell. So, um, what about 2000 hours, 83 days continous? Not exactly 10 years but not totally shabby either. And that would have a LOT more light output. If you cut the output back to something a lot dimmer, well, maybe you COULD get a few years out of it. LOL.

    Nein, I have to admit, that is a pretty cool mod. I always wanted one of those Traser things myself. Stupid NRC. *grumble*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avatar28 View Post
    I don't know. But I wonder how much runtime you would get from a 6D mag regulated to drive a single white 5mm LED. Hmm. A single D cell alkaline is around, what, we'll call it 20,000 mAh for easy math. Now I'm not sure on the math of exactly how the regulation works but I've got a vague idea. We'd have 9 volts but we only need around, what, 40% of that to drive the LED at 3.6v. There's some inefficiency in the circuitry so we'll just call it half. So I figure we would be drawing about 10 mA from each cell. So, um, what about 2000 hours, 83 days continous? Not exactly 10 years but not totally shabby either. And that would have a LOT more light output. If you cut the output back to something a lot dimmer, well, maybe you COULD get a few years out of it. LOL.

    Nein, I have to admit, that is a pretty cool mod. I always wanted one of those Traser things myself. Stupid NRC. *grumble*
    My Safe(Pal) light has been running constantly on a single 9 volt source for months now. Rumors have it that it can run for over a year (in find me mode) on one battery. Find me mode is all the light I need with dark adapted eyes to get up and navigate. What's the difference between a 6 AAAA batteries capacity (in a 9 volt Duracell) and 6 D batteries? I'd imagine the capacities being what they are would drive the light for 5 years at least. The math probably says more like 20 years.


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    Very cool!
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    Thank you all for your words of encouragement, anyone have a Gieger Counter !?!?

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    Man I want to play with some of that. I love it!
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    Nice one Nein,
    i had the same idea but with a reflector from an old battered lantern torch. The trit is on a 1cm post v's sitting on the reflector in the mag head.

    As a comparison, the lantern reflector has almost 2x the throw Dont laugh but this trit ball in reflector now illuminates the porcelain bus for late night driving.

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