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    This is my newest experiment. It is E1e with 700 Lumens. Yes, I have the AW 16340 protected cell, Malkoff P7, and EtoC adaptor. I currently use the P7 in my Pentagon PX1, but will soon add it to an E1B

    With my cr123's it ran for 15 minutes with no drop in output.
    At around 17/18 minutes the output droped and I stoped at 20 minutes.

    Still very impressive runtime. Next, I will try it with my AW16340's.




    Last edited by bigchelis; 01-03-2009 at 12:49 AM.
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    I have only recently started buying Surefire lights, but I have taken a liking to the E series.

    Below from left:
    1) KL4 head modded with MC-E 5A on custom heat sink and stock circuit. Currently attached to an E1L body with Z57 tailcap and holding an IMR16340.
    2) FM 18500 clicky body
    3) E2E body (bored for 17670) with Z57 tailcap
    4) FM 18650 clicky body
    5) KL1 head modded with Seoul high CRI 4000K CCT LED at 750mA and IMS20 reflector above an L4 body (bored for 17670)
    6) stock bezel



    So, I can use the stock setup or put in the IMR16340 cells with my soon to arrive LF IMR-E2 for 350 bulb lumens.

    Then come the LED combinations. Either the KL1 or KL4 can run from a single IMR16340, 17670, 18500, 18650 or two CR123 and the KL1 can also run on two RCR123. I'm not sure what would happen with the stock KL4 circuit on two IMR16340 cells. Add to this my Art Of The Hide holester that perfectly fits any of these heads and you have quite a lot of EDC options.
    Last edited by mudman cj; 01-04-2009 at 04:40 PM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mudman cj View Post
    Then come the LED combinations. Either the KL1 or KL4 can run from a single IMR16340, 17670, 18500, 18650 or two CR123 and the KL1 can also run on two RCR123. I'm not sure what would happen with the stock KL4 circuit on two IMR16340 cells. Add to this my Art Of The Hide holester that perfectly fits any of these heads and you have quite a lot of EDC options.


    Running the KL4 on 2 X RCR123's will make it go .

    Thats my experiance anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigchelis View Post
    This is my newest experiment. It is E1e with 700 Lumens. Yes, I have the AW 16340 protected cell, Malkoff P7, and EtoC adaptor.





    The Malkoff P7 @ 700 lumens, isn't that with 2 cr123's?

    EDIT 600- 700 lumens with a 18650 or 17670...wondering how you fit one of them inside a E1E.
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    The P7 runs on a single cell whether it be a cr123 or an 18650. As long as the cell can handle the 2.8amp draw. There will be differences in runtime. As long as you use an E to C adaptor you can put any 6P head on any E series body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigchelis View Post
    The P7 runs on a single cell whether it be a cr123 or an 18650. As long as the cell can handle the 2.8amp draw. There will be differences in runtime. As long as you use an E to C adaptor you can put any 6P head on any E series body.

    So you can get 700 lumens from one cr123?
    According to Gene, the P7 is only suitable for 18650 and 17670 rechargeable cells.
    I think this is a similar case to the L4 and TW4. With 2 cells you get 100 lumens, in the one cell configuration you get half of that, I'm guessing.
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    It should run fine on a CR123A, but with reduced output.

    For full output, you'll need a 2.8A @ 3.6-4.2v - so either a high current Li-ion/LiPo cell (AW "C", 18650, 17670, IMR16340, etc) or 3x NiMH cells.



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    Thanks gswitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gswitter View Post
    It should run fine on a CR123A, but with reduced output.

    For full output, you'll need a 2.8A @ 3.6-4.2v - so either a high current Li-ion/LiPo cell (AW "C", 18650, 17670, IMR16340, etc) or 3x NiMH cells.
    I ran it with ebay version 16340 and it ran with no drop in output for 15minutes, but by 20 minutes it was probably about half the output. I also have AW16340, which are designed for this 2.8amp draw safely.

    For practicality I use it with a single 18650. For pure amazement I use it in a single cell 16340 (3.6v-4.2v) set-up/lego and although it's amazing the runtime is compromised.
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    Still a work in progress, but here's the first cut of my E-series, L6 Porcupine homage... The Pineapple Killer
    • Assault bezel ring from a SolarForce A001 bezel
    • SolarForce L2 bezel (I'd rather it was a 6P bezel)
    • Vital Gear E2C
    • Peu Pineapple
    • McGizmo McTC...





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    Nice!

    yah, it's too bad the Solarforce crowns have a finer thread than the SF ones.
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    This thread is sick. Just sick I tell you...
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    My EDC

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    Here is my new EDC Lego..







    Of course the SF switch failed yesterday.. this is the 2nd one i've had go bad on my U2.
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    Nice legos Superdave. Man what is it with those U2 tailcaps? I guess the intricacy of the build is a bit fail prone?

    We can just call those Vista tailcaps
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    thanks!

    Not sure.. I have a few that i've repaired in the past but this one is stubborn. It's even the newest style white plastic one.

    I guess it's now just a twisty
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    Well, I think I've started to hit the motherlode with this whole Surefire Lego thing.



    I threw my BC8 and my SC1 in there just for S&G.

    The top one is a G2, with a Z59 clicky, and a P60L dropin, and the combat hook.

    The bottom one is a 6PL, with an A19, FM35 red filter, and a combat ring.

    Any ideas on some REALLY high powered LED stuff? I'm looking at the D26 LED by LF, but I'm not sure if it will be bright enough.

    Thanks much!
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    A pair of sharp pointy things


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    Quote Originally Posted by tx101 View Post
    A pair of sharp pointy things
    ...picture cut...
    ooooooh, I like the bezel on the left one. Esp. the look of the heatsinks. What's it called?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flash_bang View Post
    ooooooh, I like the bezel on the left one. Esp. the look of the heatsinks. What's it called?
    It came off a Spiderfire light

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    Surefire "clones" allowed? No "actual" Surefires were injured or dismantled in creating my first Surefire "clone" lego...

    Fivemega 18650 body, Solarforce crenulated head & clicky tail, Malkoff P7 lamp assembly, AW IMR 18650 cell.

    Wonderful, brilliant, "wall of light", great for general indoor use and for "in-your-face" defensive encounters.









    After seeing Bigchellis' wonderful P7 blasters, I'm inspired to dismantle my old E2...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DHart View Post
    Surefire "clones" allowed? No "actual" Surefires were injured or dismantled in creating my first Surefire "clone" lego...

    Fivemega 18650 body, Solarforce crenulated head & clicky tail, Malkoff P7 lamp assembly, AW IMR 18650 cell.
    Ironically, you created something that I had toyed with.... A light put together from different aftermarket, Surefire-compatable, parts.

    Must admit, you ended up with a better one than what I had envisioned creating.
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    I always wanted to use a FM18500 body but wasn´t quite sure what else to attach to it. Inspired by DHart´s "roomsweeper" I built my new EDC lego today:

    Surefire 6PD head + FM 18500 body + SW01 slim knockoff I took off my G&P Scorpion R500 (replaced it with the Solarforce switch DHart´s using on his light).
    The bright part is a LumensFactory 3.7V R2 LED dropin. I have two Novatac EDC clips coming from lighthound and one will go on this lego.
    Unfortunatelly there´s a small gap (~2mm) with the dropin installed. So I´ll try a file on this one. [Edit: Now the gap is gone!]


    I wish I´d have some modding skills! I´d mod the KL3-BK with a newer LED and make it my EDC light. I like the look of the KL3 much better than the 6PD head on this lego:
    Last edited by Eric242; 02-07-2009 at 12:59 PM.

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    Just a few spare parts.

    Surefire M2/M60, 6Z/M60LL, G2/M60F, 6P, E2E, Nightcore NDI, Nightcore Extreme, Fenix TK11, LOD. Milky L1, Milky L2, Milky CREEmator, Milky RoomSweeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric242 View Post
    I always wanted to use a FM18500 body but wasn´t quite sure what else to attach to it. Inspired by DHart´s "roomsweeper" I built my new EDC lego today:

    Surefire 6PD head + FM 18500 body + SW01 slim knockoff I took off my G&P Scorpion R500 (replaced it with the Solarforce switch DHart´s using on his light).
    The bright part is a LumensFactory 3.7V R2 LED dropin. I have two Novatac EDC clips coming from lighthound and one will go on this lego.
    Unfortunatelly there´s a small gap (~2mm) with the dropin installed. So I´ll try a file on this one. [Edit: Now the gap is gone!]

    I wish I´d have some modding skills! I´d mod the KL3-BK with a newer LED and make it my EDC light. I like the look of the KL3 much better than 6PD head on this lego:
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    Eric... cool little blaster! I like it... especially with the KL3 head. Nice pics too!

    I, like you, would like to have the skills and knowledge to do some modding rather than just play lego. Well.. you can always send that KL3 head to someone like Milky to have it just as you want it!
    Last edited by DHart; 02-07-2009 at 12:16 PM.

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    Here's my latest lego... sure love this combo... really brilliant light with a great beam and the little E1e body is so nice!

    TLS Cree Q5 Head on E1e body


    No SF parts here, but I guess this could be called "clone-lego"

    TLS Cree Q5 Head w/Fivemega E1 body & Clickie

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    Wow, the TSL head looks really good on the E1e body . Pretty good colour match too.

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    Btw., is that a plain bezel or impact bezel on your TLS head?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric242 View Post
    Btw., is that a plain bezel or impact bezel on your TLS head?
    Definitely plain bezel. Impact bezel on the TLS heads are very aggressive in style.
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    I don't seem to have actually posted this here. Shocking, I know.

    [E1e head, LF EO-E1R, E1 body, McTC]

    [Here it is in bits]

    Clicky to see it in it's stock form.

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