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    Lightbulb Bike Lights Data Base

    There is so many lights that sometimes you are not able to know them all.

    So I'm starting to create Led Lights Data Base that are currently available on the market and I'm counting on You people that you will help updating it .

    Single Led Bike lights (at last 80 lumens to get here)
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    Company         Product               Price    Best   Led       Light levels        Burn time* Mount       Lumens**
    Blackburn       X3                    150$     100$   Luxeon      1  2  3  strobe   3,5h       bar/helmet  85
    Blackburn       X4                    199$     109$   Luxeon      1  2  3  strobe   4h         bar/helmet  85 (Li-Ion version of X3)
    BLT             Triton T4 Headlight   200$     180$   Luxeon      -  -  3  -        1,5h       bar         120 4W rate
    BLT             Firewire 4.0          150$     130$   Luxeon      -  -  3  -        3h ??      bar/helmet  120 4W rate
    Busch & Müller  IXON IQ               140$     112$   Cree/Rebel  1  -  3  -        5h         bar         100 (40 lux) 4xAA
    Busch & Müller  IXON IQ SPEED         240$     185$   Cree/Rebel  1  -  3  -        10h        bar/helmet  130 (50 lux) 6V 4,1Ah
    Cygolite        HiFlux 200            139$      95$   Luxeon      1  -  3  -        6h         bar         80
    Cygolite        HiFlux II              99$      66$   SSC         -  -  3  -        3,5h       bar         150
    Cygolite        HiFlux II Xtra        109$      80$   SSC         1  -  3  -        4,5h       bar         150
    Cygolite        MiliOn 150 USB          ?             SSC         1  -  3  strobe   5h         bar         150
    Cygolite        MiliOn 200 USB          ?             SSC         1  -  3  strobe   3h         bar/helmet  200
    DiNotte         200L-AA               169$     149$   SSC         1  2  3  strobe+  3h         bar/helmet  190
    DiNotte         200L-Li               249$            SSC         1  2  3  strobe+  4/8h       bar/helmet  190
    Exposure Lights JoyStick MaXx         250$     182$   SSC         1  2  3  strobe   3          bar/helmet  190
    Exposure Lights Joystick Mk.5         260$            Cree XP-G   1  2  3  strobe   3          bar/helmet  190
    Exposure Lights Spark                 110$      89$   SSC         1  2  3  strobe   1,5        bar/helmet  190
    Hope            Vision Single LED     199$     128$   SSC         ?  ?  3  ?        3h         bar         190 (4xAA)
    Knog            Gator 305             265$     150$   Luxeon      1  -  3  strobe   4,4h       bar         80
    Light & Motion  Vega                  199$     119$   Luxeon      1  2  3  strobe   2h         bar/helmet  85
    Light & Motion  Vega 120              129$     110$   SSC         -  -  3  -        ?          bar         120
    Light & Motion  Vega 200              189$     173$   SSC         1  2  3  strobe   2h         bar         200
    Light & Motion  Stella 180NiMH        240$     159$   SSC         1  2+ 3  strobe   5h         bar/helmet  180
    Light & Motion  Stella 180Li-Ion      299$     247$   SSC         1  2+ 3  strobe   5h         bar/helmet  180
    Light & Motion  Stella 120 AA          96$      89$   Cree XR-E   -  -  3  -        ?          bar/helmet  120
    Light & Motion  Stella 120            129$     119$   Cree XR-E   -  -  3  -        2h         bar/helmet  120
    Light & Motion  Stella 200L           259$     219$   SSC         1  2  3  strobe   5h         bar/helmet  200
    Light & Motion  Stella 200N           179$     148$   SSC         1  2  3  strobe   5h         bar/helmet  200
    Light & Motion  Stella 300            279$     251$   Cree XP-G  1  2  3  strobe   5h          bar/helmet  280
    LITEmania       Scolo                  53$ head only  Cree Q5     1  -  3  -        7,2v/4Ah=7hbar         200 (add 50$ for batt & 25$ chrg.)
    Marwi           Stellar               211$     146$   Luxeon      1  -  3  strobe   5h         bar/helmet  80
    NiteFLUX        Photon 4 Enduro       265$     183$   Luxeon      1  -  3  strobe   6h         bar/helmet  120
    NiteHawk        K2                    219$     122$   Luxeon K2   1  2+ 3  strobe+  4h         bar/helmet  160
    NiteHawk        Emitter AL-X          120$      99$   Luxeon      1  -  3  -        2h         bar/helmet  85
    Niterider       MiNewt                180$     119$   Luxeon      1  -  3  -        3h         bar         80
    Niterider       MiNewt.X2             189$     135$   SSC         1  -  3  -        3,5h       bar         150
    Niterider       MiNewt.USB            109$      83$   SSC         -  -  3  -        3h         bar         100
    Niterider       MiNewt.USB Plus       129$     109$   SSC         -  -  3  -        3h         bar/helmet  100
    Niterider       MiNewt.200            199$     140$   SSC         1  -  3  strobe   3,5h       bar         200
    Niterider       Sol                   149$     119$   SSC         -  -  3  -        4h         bar         115
    Niterider       SolMate               165$     125$   SSC         -  -  3  -        4h         bar/helmet  115
    Princeton Tec   Switchback 1          199$     179$   Luxeon      1  2  3  strobe   4,5h       bar/helmet  85
    Sigma           Powerled + NiPack     150$     120$   Luxeon      1  -  3  -        5h         bar/helmet  85
    Sigma           Powerled + SSC        110$            SSC (mod)   1  -  3  -        3,5h       bar/helmet  180
    Sigma           Powerled Black        159$      75$   SSC         1  2  3  -        2h         bar/helmet  170 (4xAA)
    Sigma           Powerled Black Lipack 180$     140$   SSC         1  2  3  -        3,5h       bar/helmet  170
    Solidlights     1103                  420$            Luxeon      1  2  3  -        3,7h       bar/helmet  85
    SuperNova       24SEVEN               750$            Luxeon      1  -  3  -        7h         bar/helmet  120 4,3W rate
    Topeak          WhiteLite 3W + HP kit 166$     140$   Luxeon      1  -  3  -        3,5h       bar/helmet  85
    Topeak          Whitelite HP 5W       400$     259$   Luxeon K2   1  2  3  -        5,2h       bar/helmet  160 5W rate
    Vetta           Micro Lux             105$      80$   Luxeon      1  -  3  -        5h         bar/helmet   80 3W rate
    
    * taken from datasheet
    ** estimated value power*efficiency or from datasheet
    Light levels 1-low / 2-midle / 3-High if there is more mark 2+, for strobe the same.
    Dual Led or Dual Head bike lights
    Code:
    Company         Product               Price    Best   Led       Light levels        Burn time* Mount       Lumens**
    AyUp!           Multisport Kit         195$           Cree XR-E   -  -  3  -        6h         bar/helmet  250
    AyUp! 2010      Twin Sport             233$           Cree XR-E   1  -  3  strobe   6h         bar/helmet  320
    Blackburn       X6 Dual                282$     99$   Luxeon      1  2  3  strobe   3,5h       bar/helmet  170
    Blackburn       X8 Dual                299$    199$   Luxeon      1  2  3  strobe   3,5h       bar/helmet  170
    BR Lights       C2                     290$           Luxeon K2   1  -  3  -        3,95h      bar         300
    Cateye          Double Shot            230$    169$   Luxeon      -  -  3  -        5,5h       bar/helmet	 160
    Cateye          Double Shot PRO        399$    298$   Luxeon      1  -  3  -        2h         bar/helmet  160
    Cateye          R2                     480$    225$   Rebel       1  -  3  -        2h         bar/helmet  400
    Cygolite        DualCross Li-ion       220$    184$   Luxeon      1  -  3  sos      3,5h       bar/helmet  160
    Cygolite        DualCross PRO NiMH     209$    167$   SSC         1  2  3  sos+     4h         bar/helmet  310
    Cygolite        DualCross PRO Li-ion   250$    214$   SSC         1  2  3  sos+     3,5h       bar/helmet  310
    Cygolite        Rover II               140$    115$   SSC         1  2  3  strobe   3,5h       bar         255
    Cygolite        Rover II Xtra          160$    144$   SSC         1  2  3  sos+     3,5h       bar         255
    Cygolite        MityCross              199$           SSC         1  2  3  sos+     3,5h       bar         350 ;)
    Cygolite        MityCross 300          199$    167$   SSC         1  2+ 3  sos+     3,5h       bar         300 ;)
    Cygolite        MityCross 350          219$    191$   SSC         1  2+ 3  sos+     3,5h       ba/helmet   350 ;)
    DiNotte         Dual-200               374$           SSC         1  2  3  strobe+  8h         bar/helmet  400
    DiNotte         400L                   269$           SSC         1  2  3  strobe+  2/4h       bar/helmet  200
    Exposure Lights Race MaXx              350$    262$   SSC         1  2  3  strobe+  3h         bar         380
    Exposure Lights Race Mk.5              352$           Cree XP-G   1  2  3  strobe   3          bar         560
    Exposure Lights Strada Mk.2            382$           Cree XP-G   1  2  3  strobe   3          bar         560
    Hope            Vision Led             350$    240$   Luxeon K2   -  -  3  -        1,75h      bar/helmet  300
    Hope            Vision 2 '09           310$    270$   ?           1  2+ 3  -        2          bar         380
    Knog            Gator 605              385$    350$   Luxeon      1  2  3  strobe   3,5        bar         160
    Lupine          Piko                   436$    393$   Cree XP-G   1  2  3           2,5        bar/helmet  520
    NiteHawk        Emitter Dual           195$           Luxeon      1  -  3  -        1h         bar/helmet  160
    NiteHawk        K2 Dual                249$           Luxeon K2   1  2+ 3  strobe+  2,5h       bar/helmet  320
    Niterider       MiNewt Dual Head       180$    160$   Luxeon      1  -  3  -        1,5h       bar         160
    Niterider       MiNewt.X2 Dual Head    230$    179$   SSC         1  -  3  -        1,75h      bar         300
    Niterider       MiNewt.400             249$    216$   SSC         1  -  3  strobe   1,75h      bar         400
    Princeton Tec   Switchback 2           242$    159$   Luxeon      1  2  3  strobe   5,5h       bar/helmet  160
    Philips         Led Bike Light         150$    120$   Rebel       1  -  3  -        2h         bar         240
    SuperNova       48SEVEN                900$           Luxeon      1  -  3  -        7h         bar/helmet  240 8,6W rate
    
    * taken from datasheet
    ** estimated value power*efficiency or from datasheet
    Light levels 1-low / 2-midle / 3-High if there is more mark 2+, for strobe the same.
    Triple led light systems...
    Code:
    Company         Product               Price    Best   Led       Light levels        Burn time* Mount       Lumens**
    Cateye          Triple Shot            330$    199$   Luxeon      -  -  3  -        3,3h       bar/helmet	 255
    Cateye          Triple Shot PRO        450$    350$   Luxeon      1  -  3  -        3h         bar/helmet  255
    Cateye          R3                     550$    391$   Rebel       1  -  3  -        3h         bar/helmet  550
    Cygolite        TridenX NiMh           299$    274$   SSC         1  2  3  sos+     3,5h       bar/helmet  400 ??
    Cygolite        TridenX Li-ion         349$    259$   SSC         1  2  3  sos+     2,5h       bar/helmet  400 ??
    Cygolite        TridenX Li-ion Extra   355$    229$   SSC         1  2  3  sos+     5h         bar/helmet  400 ??
    Cygolite        Trion 600              349$    276$   SSC         1  2+ 3  strobe+  2,5h       bar         600 ??
    DiNotte         600-LI-4C              399$           SSC         1  2  3  strobe+  3,5h       bar/helmet  600
    Exposure Lights Enduro MaXx            450$           SSC         1  2  3  strobe+  3h         bar         570
    Exposure Lights Diablo Mk.2            317$           Cree XP-G   1  2  3  strobe   1,25h      bar         810
    Exposure Lights Toro Mk.2              436$           Cree XP-G   1  2  3  strobe   3h         bar         810
    Lumicycle       LED3Si Elite26         417$           Cree XP-G   1  2+ 3  strobe   3h         bar         810
    Nightlightning  iBlaast!               170$ head only Cree Q5     1  2+ 3  strobe+  12V 4Ah-6h bar/helmet  720 (add 100$ for bat.)
    Nightlightning  iBlaast! II            238$ head only Cree R2     1  2+ 3  strobe+  12V 4Ah-6h bar/helmet  810 (add 100$ for bat.)
    Nightlightning  Blaast!                175$ head only SSC         -  -  3  -        12V 4Ah-6h bar/helmet  500 (add 100$ for bat.)
    Nightlightning  MiniBlaast             245$ head only Cree XP-G   1  2+ 3  strobe   14.8V 2,2Ah-2,5h bar/helmet 810 (add 100$ for bat.)
    Niterider       Trinewt (cable)        399$    350$   SSC         1  -  3  strobe   3,3h       bar/helmet  500
    NiteFLUX        Photon Max             519$    339$   SSC         1  2  3  strobe   2,6h       bar/helmet  600
    Princeton Tec   Switchback 3           390$    230$   Luxeon      1  2  3  strobe   6h         bar/helmet  255
    Solidlights     1303                   540$           Luxeon      1  2  3  -        1,25h      bar/helmet  255
    
    *taken from datasheet
    ** estimated value power*efficiency or from datasheet
    Cygolite - ?? - not enough data about battery capacity / power rating
    Nightlightning iBlaast - highly configurable you can set high from 700ma to 1000mA so maximal output rize to 600 lumens.
    4 led & quad die bike lights...
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    Company         Product               Price    Best   Led       Light levels        Burn time* Mount       Lumens**
    AyUp!           MTB Kit                515$           Cree XR-E   -  -  3  -        6h         bar/helmet  500
    AyUp! 2010      V4 Adventure           410$           Cree XR-E   1  -  3  strobe   3h         bar/helmet  740
    Baja Designs    Stryker Kit            298$           Cree MC-E   1  2  3  -        3h         bar/helmet  500
    DiNotte         800-LI-4C              319$           SSC         1  2  3  strobe+  3h         bar/helmet  720
    Exposure Lights MaXx-D                 560$           SSC         1  2  3  strobe+  3h         bar         720
    Exposure Lights MaXx-D Mk.3            516$           Cree XP-G   1  2  3  strobe+  3h         bar         1120
    Exposure Lights Diablo                 250$           SSC P7      1  2  3  strobe+  1h         bar/helmet  500
    Exposure Lights Toro                   560$           SSC P7      1  2  3  strobe+  2h         bar/helmet  500
    FoxFury         Pro Bike System        224$           Luxeon      1  2+ 3  strobe+  6h         bar/helmet  144 4xC
    FoxFury         Pro 3 Bike System      369$           Cree XR-E   1  2+ 3  strobe+  8h         bar/helmet  500 6xCR123
    Hope            Vision 4 LED Li-Ion    500$    440$   SSC P4      1  -  3  -        2,5        bar         600
    LITEmania       Kentro                 130$           SSC P7      1  -  3  -        ?          bar         500 (add 100$ for bat.)
    LightOn!        Commuter 400           359$           Luxeon K2   1  -  3  -        3,75h      bar         400
    LightOn!        Commuter 500           405$           Luxeon K2   1  -  3  -        3,75h      bar         500 better bin ?
    Lupine          Wilma 4                675$           SSC         1  2+ 3  strobe+  2,75h      bar/helmet  720
    Lupine          Wilma 6                695$           SSC         1  2+ 3  strobe+  4h         bar/helmet  720
    Lupine          Tesla 4                520$    394$   SSC P7      1  2+ 3  strobe+  2,5h       bar/helmet  500
    Magicshine      MJ-808                  85$     75$   SSC P7      1  -  3  strobe+  3h         bar/helmet  540
    Magicshine      MJ-808 upd. 2010        89$     80$   SSC P7      1  -  3  strobe+  3h         bar/helmet  600
    Nightlightning  QuadBlaast             259$ head only Cree XP-G   1  2+ 3  strobe   14.8V 2,2Ah-2h bar/helmet 1120 (add 100$ for bat.)
    NiteFLUX        Enduro 8               249$           Cree MC-E   1  -  3  strobe   5h         bar/helmet  450
    Niterider       Pro 600                499$    399$   Cree MC-E   1  2+ 3  strobe+  3,5h       bar/helmet  500
    
    AyUp! - Regular kit have 1 big and 2 small batteries so if you will take all there will be 6 hour total.
    AyUp! - Endurance kit have 2 big and 4 small batteries so if you will take all there will be 9 hours total.
    FoxFury - Pro Bike System - You need 4C batteries to power it up (no cells or charger included).
    FoxFury - Pro 3 Bike System - You need 3 or 6 CR123 batteries to power it up (6 batteries included, no charger).
              For 6 Li-Ion RCR123A the burn time will be lower - about 6 hours.
    Lupine Tesla - SSC P7 it is quad die led so i put it here.
    More than 4 led & 4 die bike lights...
    Code:
    Company         Product               Price    Best   Led count Led        Light levels     Burn time* Mount       Lumens**
    Cygolite        Centauri                                  2     Cree MC-E 1  2+ 3  strobe+  2,5        bar/helmet  1000
    DiNotte         1200-Plus Dual Quad    419$               8     Cree XP-G 1  2  3  strobe+  2,5        bar         1200
    Exposure Lights Six Pack               516$               6     Cree XP-G 1  2  3  strobe   3,0        bar         1600
    Light & Motion  Seca 400 Cub           395$    344$       6     Rebel     1  2  3  strobe   2,5        bar         400
    Light & Motion  Seca 700 Race          499$    409$       6     Rebel     1  2  3  strobe   3,5        bar         700
    Light & Motion  Seca 700 Ultra         649$    459$       6     Rebel     1  2  3  strobe   5,0        bar/helmet  700
    Light & Motion  Seca 900               649$    459$       6     Cree XP-E 1  2  3  strobe   5,0        bar         700
    Light & Motion  Seca 1400              699$    629$       6     Cree XP-G 1  2  3  strobe   2,5        bar         1390
    Lupine          Betty 7                995$    908$       7     SSC P4    1  2+ 3  strobe+  3,0        bar         1000
    Lupine          Betty 7 (2010)        1070$    998$       7     Cree XP-G 1  2+ 3  strobe+  3,0        bar         1600
    Magicshine      MJ-816 aka. 1400       129$    119$       3     P7 + XP-E 1  2+ 3           2,1        bar         750
    Niterider       Pro 1200               649$    512$       2     Cree MC-E 1  2+ 3  strobe+  2,5        bar/helmet  1000
    NiteFLUX        Max Extreme 20         499$               3     Cree MC-E 1  2+ 3  strobe   1,5        bar         1350
    
    *taken from datasheet
    ** estimated value power*efficiency or from datasheet
    Some Incans & HID's .
    Code:
    Company         Product               Price    Best   Power      Burn time* Mount       Lumens**
    Sigma           Mirage Evo Pro         99$      57$    5W        3h         bar         81
    Lupine          Nightmare             485$            25W        2,5h       bar/helmet  490
    Hope            Vision HID            520$     420$   10W        2,5h       bar/stem    193
    Brightstar      10W HID               ???$            10W        3h         bar         310
    Lupine          Edison 4 HID          599$            16W        2,75h      bar/helmet  522
    * taken from datasheet
    ** lumens output from integrated sphere measures, data from traildesaster posts.
    Last edited by Szemhazai; 10-20-2010 at 12:07 PM.
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    Default Re: Bike Lights Data Base

    Outstanding! I smell a sticky in the works here.


    Would you consider expanding your DB to include rear LED lights?

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    Sweet info and thank-you.

    Would love more info about the Trinewt by Niterider and the TridenX by Cygolite.

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    Default Re: Bike Lights Data Base

    What about the incans and the HIDs?

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    Default Re: Bike Lights Data Base

    I think that there is no longer any use for incan's in bike lightning, HIDs will extinct in 2 years... I'll probably add a few 5/10/20W incan’s & HIDs for cost / efficiency / burn time comparison but that's all.

    If somebody thinks that is necessarily to add more this kind of lamps he can gather data and post here.
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    Default Re: Bike Lights Data Base

    Although I'm not keen on spending hundreds of dollars on a bike light, I applaud your initiative. I'm sure it will be useful for many members here.

    This could easily become a sticky.
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    This is a good list. It also shows just how quickly the technology is changing. The SB series of lights received a good review in that review of lights earlier this year. Now, they look like an also rans in comparison to what is out currently.

    Now for the nits to pick:

    First, the price for the SB3 is kinda high. I've seen them for sale on ebay for $250, and someone purchased one from Colorado Cyclists(I think that's the name of the store) for $210 + shipping. Second, I think some of the high end single LED flashlights should be added to the list as well. An Fenix L2D running on turbo mode puts out 175lm(advertised), and with bike mount, batteries, and charger, could be had for under $100 for the package. Also, it might be nice to show whether they have a spot lens, a flood lens, or some combination.

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    Default Re: Bike Lights Data Base

    Quote Originally Posted by greenLED View Post
    Outstanding! I smell a sticky in the works here.
    Oooh. I love the smell of sticky in the morning.
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    Lupine Wilma now has 3 models the 4, 6 and 8 each giving 830 lumens

    Runtimes are 2h 45, 4h and 5h 30 respectively. All 3 come with bar and helmet mount, car charger and padded transport case.

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    Default Re: Bike Lights Data Base

    Lots of data in one thread, but this is what I was looking for!

    Thanks a billion lumens!
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    Default Re: Bike Lights Data Base

    Hey folks, I've just received my Ay-Ups a few days ago. Have not had a chance to test it out on the trails just yet, so no beamshots yet, but for now, here's a little writeup I've done for one of the local bike forums here in M'sia. This light rocks! Enjoy!!

    http://fakawitribe.com/home/index.ph...=3604&catid=11
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    The first anniversary of the "Bike Lights Data Base"

    And we have 105 light's in the base
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    Default Re: Bike Lights Data Base

    Great job Szemhazai. Happy B-day to your thread!

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    Tremendous job, Szemhazai! I hope you keep it up! What a great resource.
    john

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    Can this database be updated? Nightlightning now has the iBlaast outfitted with 3 Cree Q5 LEDs (720 lumens) for US$190 and there is a new iBlaast II with 3 Cree R2 LEDs & tri-optics (40% brighter than the iBlaast! = 1008 lumens) for US$238. Also note Li-ion 2.2Ah 14.8V battery & fast smart charger is US$217 and Li-ion 4.4Ah 14.8V battery & fast smart charger for US$278. www.batteryspace.com has a Li-Ion Battery Pack: 14.8V 4.4Ah (65.12Wh, 2A rate) Battery with Smart Waterproof on-off switch with LED Indicator for $75 and smart charger for $29.95
    Also missing are the Amoebas by Scar - http://classifieds.mtbr.com/showprod...t=25611&cat=27

    Solidlights is discontinuing their 1103. 1303 has already been discontinued.
    http://solidlights.stumpie.com/buy/

    For the best looking light with best bang for the buck are the iBlaast and iBlaast II.

    Also MTBR needs to be made aware of the iBlaast so they can include it in their LED shootout.
    http://reviews.mtbr.com/blog/category/lights-shootout/

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    dvasco, 1008 lumens from 3xR2 ?
    Be serious, the maximal current of the driver they are using is 1,2A, so about 300 lumens from R2 led - it means only 900 lumens...
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    I know this website celebrates the very best in lighting. Indeed, it seems like everyone enjoys watching the amazing march of progress with at least a fantasy eye toward owning the newest, lightest and brightest...

    But...

    Not all of us (read: yours truly) have the technical knowledge, skills or $$$ to choose the best. This is my way of saying you may be singing the death song a little too early on incandescent lighting. It's so simple (even I can do it) and bright. I just looked at an $89 MR16 LED that just wasn't remotely as bright as my $6 halogen. I realize the efficiency of halogen doesn't come close to LED's but, over volted, it can exceed HID (at the cost of bulb life, yes, but how many cheap lights do I have to burn up to match the cost of an HID?)

    Bottom line though is this; though it may be hard for you geniuses (no sarcasm intended) to imagine, I really don't understand about ballast, and circuit board etching and I don't have a lathe and every time I solder something I have about a 50/50 chance of melting it! So, assuming I'm not the only hapless techNOincompetent who nevertheless likes this stuff (and reads all your builds and designs like adventure stories) there's probably always going to be an interest in building "what we can". In my case a Maglite head with a halogen inside, an on/off switch (didn't think about rain) and a battery connector. To me that's high-tech.

    Take care.

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    Aw, c'mon NoShoulder - you're in FOUNTAIN VALLEY!

    Surely you must have better skills than what you're letting on.

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    Where did you get the info about the Dinottes?
    I've just started to do a little research myself (in the hope that I'd be able to do some modding), and found that the 600L has Fraen tri-lens suitable for Luxeon K2s, and indeed, the most advanced version of the K2 is rated 200 lumens (min. @1A), this also explains why there is no upgrade available for the Dinottes (SSC P4 are at around 240 lumens now).
    Btw. the Cygolite Trion uses exactly the same optics and numbers (600 lumens) so that must be having the Luxeon K2 as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Szemhazai View Post
    dvasco, 1008 lumens from 3xR2 ?
    Be serious, the maximal current of the driver they are using is 1,2A, so about 300 lumens from R2 led - it means only 900 lumens...
    I just saw your reply. I was still learning about this stuff when I posted that, and I still am. I had multiplied 240 lumensx3x1.4 due to statements on their website.
    Cree Q5 LEDs 240 Lumens each @ 1000ma (iBlaast!)
    iBlaast II fitted with latest Cree R2 LEDs. 40% brighter than the iBlaast!

    http://www.nightlightning.co.nz/endurenz%20details.htm

    They do state in an email I received from them "The iBlaast II has three Cree R2 LEDs with an output close to 1000 Lumens."

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    What can I say...

    Q5 @ 1A => 240 lum
    R2 @ 1A => 270 lum

    So how "close to" 1000 is 810 ??
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    BR lights is shipping their 1000 lumen model C2-K in a couple days, and you can get your old model upgraded for $100!

    I assume it is two Cree MC-E.

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    anyone have any comments on lumicycle? they claim 850 lumens from their 3led head on 'boost mode'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hit4six View Post
    anyone have any comments on lumicycle? they claim 850 lumens from their 3led head on 'boost mode'.
    It's possible, but only if they are using over 1000mA driver.
    Note that they also claim 150lumens@0.9W with 40hrs of runtime, which is impossible and real output in this mode is 90 lumens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoShoulder View Post
    I know this website celebrates the very best in lighting. Indeed, it seems like everyone enjoys watching the amazing march of progress with at least a fantasy eye toward owning the newest, lightest and brightest

    But...

    Not all of us (read: yours truly) have the technical knowledge, skills or $$$ to choose the best. This is my way of saying you may be singing the death song a little too early on incandescent lighting. It's so simple (even I can do it) and bright. I just looked at an $89 MR16 LED that just wasn't remotely as bright as my $6 halogen. I realize the efficiency of halogen doesn't come close to LED's but, over volted, it can exceed HID
    NoShoulder
    I think the point is that LEDs are improving so rapidly and the costs are coming down almost as fast that there's no point in listing halogens that are altready outclassed. I have halogens that I converted to LEDs and even overvolted they don't come anywhere close to being as bright as the converts. Cost...only ~$40 to get a 3led 700+ lumen light. It won't be long before lumens/$ goes way up on stuff for sale to others like you so the only reason I would include older halogen lights would be in a separate thread, maybe over at MTBR to list the best lights for modding with LEDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calina View Post
    Although I'm not keen on spending hundreds of dollars on a bike light, I applaud your initiative. I'm sure it will be useful for many members here.

    This could easily become a sticky.
    Thing being, is some of these like the diablo, can be easily dual purpose. Why spend £100 on a flashlight and £100 on a bike light, when £150 will get you one that does both!

    Spoke to exposure today and they are also looking at making them waterproof, so dive/bike/general flashlight....makes one expensive torch perhaps the way to go!

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    One thing I don't see is the light distribution, which might be very important. lumens is a measure of how much light is output. If it covers a wide angle it's not very bright and if it's too narrow it only lights up what's straight in front, unless it's helmet mounted. Then if it's wide it's still not bright and if it's narrow it's very shakey and you have to hold your head just so.

    I was just looking into LED lighting for a generator light (I'm way too disorganized to remember to charge and carry batteries and have been known to stay out way later than I planned so a generator works for me.) Generators put out about 3w. I made a proto with 15 each of two different half angle LEDs. Half are 9 degree and half are 30 degree. Now they aim together, which is a bother, but they provide a spot 20 or 30 feet out (15 mph is 22 fps) and wide area of light in front of the wheel. The narrow spot provides forward lighting which is aimed, in this incarnation with the handle bars. The wide angle light with a reflector to direct the light down provides good illumination up close for maneuvering around near obstructions. This is OK but way short of ideal. Now I'm designing two different lights. One for close and one for far lighting so they can be aimed separately.

    Does anyone have information or suggestions about the ideal light spread for riding?

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    What about the new Gloworm X2?

    mtbr.com write-up

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    This first post hasn't been updated since October 2010. It's not particularly helpful. 2012 brought a ton of changes in the availability of bike specific lights. And many people use inexpensive flashlights that never appear in any lists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a1penguin View Post
    This first post hasn't been updated since October 2010. It's not particularly helpful. 2012 brought a ton of changes in the availability of bike specific lights. And many people use inexpensive flashlights that never appear in any lists.
    +1

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