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    Lightbulb Bike Lights Data Base

    There is so many lights that sometimes you are not able to know them all.

    So I'm starting to create Led Lights Data Base that are currently available on the market and I'm counting on You people that you will help updating it .

    Single Led Bike lights (at last 80 lumens to get here)
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    Company Product Price Best Led Light levels Burn time* Mount Lumens**
    Blackburn X3 150$ 100$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 3,5h bar/helmet 85
    Blackburn X4 199$ 109$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 4h bar/helmet 85 (Li-Ion version of X3)
    BLT Triton T4 Headlight 200$ 180$ Luxeon - - 3 - 1,5h bar 120 4W rate
    BLT Firewire 4.0 150$ 130$ Luxeon - - 3 - 3h ?? bar/helmet 120 4W rate
    Busch & Müller IXON IQ 140$ 112$ Cree/Rebel 1 - 3 - 5h bar 100 (40 lux) 4xAA
    Busch & Müller IXON IQ SPEED 240$ 185$ Cree/Rebel 1 - 3 - 10h bar/helmet 130 (50 lux) 6V 4,1Ah
    Cygolite HiFlux 200 139$ 95$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 6h bar 80
    Cygolite HiFlux II 99$ 66$ SSC - - 3 - 3,5h bar 150
    Cygolite HiFlux II Xtra 109$ 80$ SSC 1 - 3 - 4,5h bar 150
    Cygolite MiliOn 150 USB ? SSC 1 - 3 strobe 5h bar 150
    Cygolite MiliOn 200 USB ? SSC 1 - 3 strobe 3h bar/helmet 200
    DiNotte 200L-AA 169$ 149$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 3h bar/helmet 190
    DiNotte 200L-Li 249$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 4/8h bar/helmet 190
    Exposure Lights JoyStick MaXx 250$ 182$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe 3 bar/helmet 190
    Exposure Lights Joystick Mk.5 260$ Cree XP-G 1 2 3 strobe 3 bar/helmet 190
    Exposure Lights Spark 110$ 89$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe 1,5 bar/helmet 190
    Hope Vision Single LED 199$ 128$ SSC ? ? 3 ? 3h bar 190 (4xAA)
    Knog Gator 305 265$ 150$ Luxeon 1 - 3 strobe 4,4h bar 80
    Light & Motion Vega 199$ 119$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 2h bar/helmet 85
    Light & Motion Vega 120 129$ 110$ SSC - - 3 - ? bar 120
    Light & Motion Vega 200 189$ 173$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe 2h bar 200
    Light & Motion Stella 180NiMH 240$ 159$ SSC 1 2+ 3 strobe 5h bar/helmet 180
    Light & Motion Stella 180Li-Ion 299$ 247$ SSC 1 2+ 3 strobe 5h bar/helmet 180
    Light & Motion Stella 120 AA 96$ 89$ Cree XR-E - - 3 - ? bar/helmet 120
    Light & Motion Stella 120 129$ 119$ Cree XR-E - - 3 - 2h bar/helmet 120
    Light & Motion Stella 200L 259$ 219$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe 5h bar/helmet 200
    Light & Motion Stella 200N 179$ 148$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe 5h bar/helmet 200
    Light & Motion Stella 300 279$ 251$ Cree XP-G 1 2 3 strobe 5h bar/helmet 280
    LITEmania Scolo 53$ head only Cree Q5 1 - 3 - 7,2v/4Ah=7hbar 200 (add 50$ for batt & 25$ chrg.)
    Marwi Stellar 211$ 146$ Luxeon 1 - 3 strobe 5h bar/helmet 80
    NiteFLUX Photon 4 Enduro 265$ 183$ Luxeon 1 - 3 strobe 6h bar/helmet 120
    NiteHawk K2 219$ 122$ Luxeon K2 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 4h bar/helmet 160
    NiteHawk Emitter AL-X 120$ 99$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 2h bar/helmet 85
    Niterider MiNewt 180$ 119$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 3h bar 80
    Niterider MiNewt.X2 189$ 135$ SSC 1 - 3 - 3,5h bar 150
    Niterider MiNewt.USB 109$ 83$ SSC - - 3 - 3h bar 100
    Niterider MiNewt.USB Plus 129$ 109$ SSC - - 3 - 3h bar/helmet 100
    Niterider MiNewt.200 199$ 140$ SSC 1 - 3 strobe 3,5h bar 200
    Niterider Sol 149$ 119$ SSC - - 3 - 4h bar 115
    Niterider SolMate 165$ 125$ SSC - - 3 - 4h bar/helmet 115
    Princeton Tec Switchback 1 199$ 179$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 4,5h bar/helmet 85
    Sigma Powerled + NiPack 150$ 120$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 5h bar/helmet 85
    Sigma Powerled + SSC 110$ SSC (mod) 1 - 3 - 3,5h bar/helmet 180
    Sigma Powerled Black 159$ 75$ SSC 1 2 3 - 2h bar/helmet 170 (4xAA)
    Sigma Powerled Black Lipack 180$ 140$ SSC 1 2 3 - 3,5h bar/helmet 170
    Solidlights 1103 420$ Luxeon 1 2 3 - 3,7h bar/helmet 85
    SuperNova 24SEVEN 750$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 7h bar/helmet 120 4,3W rate
    Topeak WhiteLite 3W + HP kit 166$ 140$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 3,5h bar/helmet 85
    Topeak Whitelite HP 5W 400$ 259$ Luxeon K2 1 2 3 - 5,2h bar/helmet 160 5W rate
    Vetta Micro Lux 105$ 80$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 5h bar/helmet 80 3W rate

    * taken from datasheet
    ** estimated value power*efficiency or from datasheet
    Light levels 1-low / 2-midle / 3-High if there is more mark 2+, for strobe the same.
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    Dual Led or Dual Head bike lights
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    Company Product Price Best Led Light levels Burn time* Mount Lumens**
    AyUp! Multisport Kit 195$ Cree XR-E - - 3 - 6h bar/helmet 250
    AyUp! 2010 Twin Sport 233$ Cree XR-E 1 - 3 strobe 6h bar/helmet 320
    Blackburn X6 Dual 282$ 99$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 3,5h bar/helmet 170
    Blackburn X8 Dual 299$ 199$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 3,5h bar/helmet 170
    BR Lights C2 290$ Luxeon K2 1 - 3 - 3,95h bar 300
    Cateye Double Shot 230$ 169$ Luxeon - - 3 - 5,5h bar/helmet 160
    Cateye Double Shot PRO 399$ 298$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 2h bar/helmet 160
    Cateye R2 480$ 225$ Rebel 1 - 3 - 2h bar/helmet 400
    Cygolite DualCross Li-ion 220$ 184$ Luxeon 1 - 3 sos 3,5h bar/helmet 160
    Cygolite DualCross PRO NiMH 209$ 167$ SSC 1 2 3 sos+ 4h bar/helmet 310
    Cygolite DualCross PRO Li-ion 250$ 214$ SSC 1 2 3 sos+ 3,5h bar/helmet 310
    Cygolite Rover II 140$ 115$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe 3,5h bar 255
    Cygolite Rover II Xtra 160$ 144$ SSC 1 2 3 sos+ 3,5h bar 255
    Cygolite MityCross 199$ SSC 1 2 3 sos+ 3,5h bar 350
    Cygolite MityCross 300 199$ 167$ SSC 1 2+ 3 sos+ 3,5h bar 300
    Cygolite MityCross 350 219$ 191$ SSC 1 2+ 3 sos+ 3,5h ba/helmet 350
    DiNotte Dual-200 374$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 8h bar/helmet 400
    DiNotte 400L 269$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 2/4h bar/helmet 200
    Exposure Lights Race MaXx 350$ 262$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 3h bar 380
    Exposure Lights Race Mk.5 352$ Cree XP-G 1 2 3 strobe 3 bar 560
    Exposure Lights Strada Mk.2 382$ Cree XP-G 1 2 3 strobe 3 bar 560
    Hope Vision Led 350$ 240$ Luxeon K2 - - 3 - 1,75h bar/helmet 300
    Hope Vision 2 '09 310$ 270$ ? 1 2+ 3 - 2 bar 380
    Knog Gator 605 385$ 350$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 3,5 bar 160
    Lupine Piko 436$ 393$ Cree XP-G 1 2 3 2,5 bar/helmet 520
    NiteHawk Emitter Dual 195$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 1h bar/helmet 160
    NiteHawk K2 Dual 249$ Luxeon K2 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 2,5h bar/helmet 320
    Niterider MiNewt Dual Head 180$ 160$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 1,5h bar 160
    Niterider MiNewt.X2 Dual Head 230$ 179$ SSC 1 - 3 - 1,75h bar 300
    Niterider MiNewt.400 249$ 216$ SSC 1 - 3 strobe 1,75h bar 400
    Princeton Tec Switchback 2 242$ 159$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 5,5h bar/helmet 160
    Philips Led Bike Light 150$ 120$ Rebel 1 - 3 - 2h bar 240
    SuperNova 48SEVEN 900$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 7h bar/helmet 240 8,6W rate

    * taken from datasheet
    ** estimated value power*efficiency or from datasheet
    Light levels 1-low / 2-midle / 3-High if there is more mark 2+, for strobe the same.
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    Triple led light systems...
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    Company Product Price Best Led Light levels Burn time* Mount Lumens**
    Cateye Triple Shot 330$ 199$ Luxeon - - 3 - 3,3h bar/helmet 255
    Cateye Triple Shot PRO 450$ 350$ Luxeon 1 - 3 - 3h bar/helmet 255
    Cateye R3 550$ 391$ Rebel 1 - 3 - 3h bar/helmet 550
    Cygolite TridenX NiMh 299$ 274$ SSC 1 2 3 sos+ 3,5h bar/helmet 400 ??
    Cygolite TridenX Li-ion 349$ 259$ SSC 1 2 3 sos+ 2,5h bar/helmet 400 ??
    Cygolite TridenX Li-ion Extra 355$ 229$ SSC 1 2 3 sos+ 5h bar/helmet 400 ??
    Cygolite Trion 600 349$ 276$ SSC 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 2,5h bar 600 ??
    DiNotte 600-LI-4C 399$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 3,5h bar/helmet 600
    Exposure Lights Enduro MaXx 450$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 3h bar 570
    Exposure Lights Diablo Mk.2 317$ Cree XP-G 1 2 3 strobe 1,25h bar 810
    Exposure Lights Toro Mk.2 436$ Cree XP-G 1 2 3 strobe 3h bar 810
    Lumicycle LED3Si Elite26 417$ Cree XP-G 1 2+ 3 strobe 3h bar 810
    Nightlightning iBlaast! 170$ head only Cree Q5 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 12V 4Ah-6h bar/helmet 720 (add 100$ for bat.)
    Nightlightning iBlaast! II 238$ head only Cree R2 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 12V 4Ah-6h bar/helmet 810 (add 100$ for bat.)
    Nightlightning Blaast! 175$ head only SSC - - 3 - 12V 4Ah-6h bar/helmet 500 (add 100$ for bat.)
    Nightlightning MiniBlaast 245$ head only Cree XP-G 1 2+ 3 strobe 14.8V 2,2Ah-2,5h bar/helmet 810 (add 100$ for bat.)
    Niterider Trinewt (cable) 399$ 350$ SSC 1 - 3 strobe 3,3h bar/helmet 500
    NiteFLUX Photon Max 519$ 339$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe 2,6h bar/helmet 600
    Princeton Tec Switchback 3 390$ 230$ Luxeon 1 2 3 strobe 6h bar/helmet 255
    Solidlights 1303 540$ Luxeon 1 2 3 - 1,25h bar/helmet 255

    *taken from datasheet
    ** estimated value power*efficiency or from datasheet
    Cygolite - ?? - not enough data about battery capacity / power rating
    Nightlightning iBlaast - highly configurable you can set high from 700ma to 1000mA so maximal output rize to 600 lumens.
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    4 led & quad die bike lights...
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    Company Product Price Best Led Light levels Burn time* Mount Lumens**
    AyUp! MTB Kit 515$ Cree XR-E - - 3 - 6h bar/helmet 500
    AyUp! 2010 V4 Adventure 410$ Cree XR-E 1 - 3 strobe 3h bar/helmet 740
    Baja Designs Stryker Kit 298$ Cree MC-E 1 2 3 - 3h bar/helmet 500
    DiNotte 800-LI-4C 319$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 3h bar/helmet 720
    Exposure Lights MaXx-D 560$ SSC 1 2 3 strobe+ 3h bar 720
    Exposure Lights MaXx-D Mk.3 516$ Cree XP-G 1 2 3 strobe+ 3h bar 1120
    Exposure Lights Diablo 250$ SSC P7 1 2 3 strobe+ 1h bar/helmet 500
    Exposure Lights Toro 560$ SSC P7 1 2 3 strobe+ 2h bar/helmet 500
    FoxFury Pro Bike System 224$ Luxeon 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 6h bar/helmet 144 4xC
    FoxFury Pro 3 Bike System 369$ Cree XR-E 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 8h bar/helmet 500 6xCR123
    Hope Vision 4 LED Li-Ion 500$ 440$ SSC P4 1 - 3 - 2,5 bar 600
    LITEmania Kentro 130$ SSC P7 1 - 3 - ? bar 500 (add 100$ for bat.)
    LightOn! Commuter 400 359$ Luxeon K2 1 - 3 - 3,75h bar 400
    LightOn! Commuter 500 405$ Luxeon K2 1 - 3 - 3,75h bar 500 better bin ?
    Lupine Wilma 4 675$ SSC 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 2,75h bar/helmet 720
    Lupine Wilma 6 695$ SSC 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 4h bar/helmet 720
    Lupine Tesla 4 520$ 394$ SSC P7 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 2,5h bar/helmet 500
    Magicshine MJ-808 85$ 75$ SSC P7 1 - 3 strobe+ 3h bar/helmet 540
    Magicshine MJ-808 upd. 2010 89$ 80$ SSC P7 1 - 3 strobe+ 3h bar/helmet 600
    Nightlightning QuadBlaast 259$ head only Cree XP-G 1 2+ 3 strobe 14.8V 2,2Ah-2h bar/helmet 1120 (add 100$ for bat.)
    NiteFLUX Enduro 8 249$ Cree MC-E 1 - 3 strobe 5h bar/helmet 450
    Niterider Pro 600 499$ 399$ Cree MC-E 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 3,5h bar/helmet 500

    AyUp! - Regular kit have 1 big and 2 small batteries so if you will take all there will be 6 hour total.
    AyUp! - Endurance kit have 2 big and 4 small batteries so if you will take all there will be 9 hours total.
    FoxFury - Pro Bike System - You need 4C batteries to power it up (no cells or charger included).
    FoxFury - Pro 3 Bike System - You need 3 or 6 CR123 batteries to power it up (6 batteries included, no charger).
    For 6 Li-Ion RCR123A the burn time will be lower - about 6 hours.
    Lupine Tesla - SSC P7 it is quad die led so i put it here.
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    More than 4 led & 4 die bike lights...
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    Company Product Price Best Led count Led Light levels Burn time* Mount Lumens**
    Cygolite Centauri 2 Cree MC-E 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 2,5 bar/helmet 1000
    DiNotte 1200-Plus Dual Quad 419$ 8 Cree XP-G 1 2 3 strobe+ 2,5 bar 1200
    Exposure Lights Six Pack 516$ 6 Cree XP-G 1 2 3 strobe 3,0 bar 1600
    Light & Motion Seca 400 Cub 395$ 344$ 6 Rebel 1 2 3 strobe 2,5 bar 400
    Light & Motion Seca 700 Race 499$ 409$ 6 Rebel 1 2 3 strobe 3,5 bar 700
    Light & Motion Seca 700 Ultra 649$ 459$ 6 Rebel 1 2 3 strobe 5,0 bar/helmet 700
    Light & Motion Seca 900 649$ 459$ 6 Cree XP-E 1 2 3 strobe 5,0 bar 700
    Light & Motion Seca 1400 699$ 629$ 6 Cree XP-G 1 2 3 strobe 2,5 bar 1390
    Lupine Betty 7 995$ 908$ 7 SSC P4 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 3,0 bar 1000
    Lupine Betty 7 (2010) 1070$ 998$ 7 Cree XP-G 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 3,0 bar 1600
    Magicshine MJ-816 aka. 1400 129$ 119$ 3 P7 + XP-E 1 2+ 3 2,1 bar 750
    Niterider Pro 1200 649$ 512$ 2 Cree MC-E 1 2+ 3 strobe+ 2,5 bar/helmet 1000
    NiteFLUX Max Extreme 20 499$ 3 Cree MC-E 1 2+ 3 strobe 1,5 bar 1350

    *taken from datasheet
    ** estimated value power*efficiency or from datasheet
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    Some Incans & HID's .
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    Company Product Price Best Power Burn time* Mount Lumens**
    Sigma Mirage Evo Pro 99$ 57$ 5W 3h bar 81
    Lupine Nightmare 485$ 25W 2,5h bar/helmet 490
    Hope Vision HID 520$ 420$ 10W 2,5h bar/stem 193
    Brightstar 10W HID ???$ 10W 3h bar 310
    Lupine Edison 4 HID 599$ 16W 2,75h bar/helmet 522
    * taken from datasheet
    ** lumens output from integrated sphere measures, data from traildesaster posts.
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    Default Re: Bike Lights Data Base

    Outstanding! I smell a sticky in the works here.


    Would you consider expanding your DB to include rear LED lights?

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    Sweet info and thank-you.

    Would love more info about the Trinewt by Niterider and the TridenX by Cygolite.

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    Default Re: Bike Lights Data Base

    What about the incans and the HIDs?

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    Default Re: Bike Lights Data Base

    I think that there is no longer any use for incan's in bike lightning, HIDs will extinct in 2 years... I'll probably add a few 5/10/20W incan’s & HIDs for cost / efficiency / burn time comparison but that's all.

    If somebody thinks that is necessarily to add more this kind of lamps he can gather data and post here.
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    Default Re: Bike Lights Data Base

    Although I'm not keen on spending hundreds of dollars on a bike light, I applaud your initiative. I'm sure it will be useful for many members here.

    This could easily become a sticky.
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    This is a good list. It also shows just how quickly the technology is changing. The SB series of lights received a good review in that review of lights earlier this year. Now, they look like an also rans in comparison to what is out currently.

    Now for the nits to pick:

    First, the price for the SB3 is kinda high. I've seen them for sale on ebay for $250, and someone purchased one from Colorado Cyclists(I think that's the name of the store) for $210 + shipping. Second, I think some of the high end single LED flashlights should be added to the list as well. An Fenix L2D running on turbo mode puts out 175lm(advertised), and with bike mount, batteries, and charger, could be had for under $100 for the package. Also, it might be nice to show whether they have a spot lens, a flood lens, or some combination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenLED View Post
    Outstanding! I smell a sticky in the works here.
    Oooh. I love the smell of sticky in the morning.
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    Lupine Wilma now has 3 models the 4, 6 and 8 each giving 830 lumens

    Runtimes are 2h 45, 4h and 5h 30 respectively. All 3 come with bar and helmet mount, car charger and padded transport case.

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    Lots of data in one thread, but this is what I was looking for!

    Thanks a billion lumens!
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    Default Re: Bike Lights Data Base

    Hey folks, I've just received my Ay-Ups a few days ago. Have not had a chance to test it out on the trails just yet, so no beamshots yet, but for now, here's a little writeup I've done for one of the local bike forums here in M'sia. This light rocks! Enjoy!!

    http://fakawitribe.com/home/index.ph...=3604&catid=11
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    The first anniversary of the "Bike Lights Data Base"

    And we have 105 light's in the base
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    Great job Szemhazai. Happy B-day to your thread!

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    Tremendous job, Szemhazai! I hope you keep it up! What a great resource.
    john

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    Can this database be updated? Nightlightning now has the iBlaast outfitted with 3 Cree Q5 LEDs (720 lumens) for US$190 and there is a new iBlaast II with 3 Cree R2 LEDs & tri-optics (40% brighter than the iBlaast! = 1008 lumens) for US$238. Also note Li-ion 2.2Ah 14.8V battery & fast smart charger is US$217 and Li-ion 4.4Ah 14.8V battery & fast smart charger for US$278. www.batteryspace.com has a Li-Ion Battery Pack: 14.8V 4.4Ah (65.12Wh, 2A rate) Battery with Smart Waterproof on-off switch with LED Indicator for $75 and smart charger for $29.95
    Also missing are the Amoebas by Scar - http://classifieds.mtbr.com/showprod...t=25611&cat=27

    Solidlights is discontinuing their 1103. 1303 has already been discontinued.
    http://solidlights.stumpie.com/buy/

    For the best looking light with best bang for the buck are the iBlaast and iBlaast II.

    Also MTBR needs to be made aware of the iBlaast so they can include it in their LED shootout.
    http://reviews.mtbr.com/blog/category/lights-shootout/

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    dvasco, 1008 lumens from 3xR2 ?
    Be serious, the maximal current of the driver they are using is 1,2A, so about 300 lumens from R2 led - it means only 900 lumens...
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    I know this website celebrates the very best in lighting. Indeed, it seems like everyone enjoys watching the amazing march of progress with at least a fantasy eye toward owning the newest, lightest and brightest...

    But...

    Not all of us (read: yours truly) have the technical knowledge, skills or $$$ to choose the best. This is my way of saying you may be singing the death song a little too early on incandescent lighting. It's so simple (even I can do it) and bright. I just looked at an $89 MR16 LED that just wasn't remotely as bright as my $6 halogen. I realize the efficiency of halogen doesn't come close to LED's but, over volted, it can exceed HID (at the cost of bulb life, yes, but how many cheap lights do I have to burn up to match the cost of an HID?)

    Bottom line though is this; though it may be hard for you geniuses (no sarcasm intended) to imagine, I really don't understand about ballast, and circuit board etching and I don't have a lathe and every time I solder something I have about a 50/50 chance of melting it! So, assuming I'm not the only hapless techNOincompetent who nevertheless likes this stuff (and reads all your builds and designs like adventure stories) there's probably always going to be an interest in building "what we can". In my case a Maglite head with a halogen inside, an on/off switch (didn't think about rain) and a battery connector. To me that's high-tech.

    Take care.

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    Aw, c'mon NoShoulder - you're in FOUNTAIN VALLEY!

    Surely you must have better skills than what you're letting on.

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    Where did you get the info about the Dinottes?
    I've just started to do a little research myself (in the hope that I'd be able to do some modding), and found that the 600L has Fraen tri-lens suitable for Luxeon K2s, and indeed, the most advanced version of the K2 is rated 200 lumens (min. @1A), this also explains why there is no upgrade available for the Dinottes (SSC P4 are at around 240 lumens now).
    Btw. the Cygolite Trion uses exactly the same optics and numbers (600 lumens) so that must be having the Luxeon K2 as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Szemhazai View Post
    dvasco, 1008 lumens from 3xR2 ?
    Be serious, the maximal current of the driver they are using is 1,2A, so about 300 lumens from R2 led - it means only 900 lumens...
    I just saw your reply. I was still learning about this stuff when I posted that, and I still am. I had multiplied 240 lumensx3x1.4 due to statements on their website.
    Cree Q5 LEDs 240 Lumens each @ 1000ma (iBlaast!)
    iBlaast II fitted with latest Cree R2 LEDs. 40% brighter than the iBlaast!

    http://www.nightlightning.co.nz/endurenz%20details.htm

    They do state in an email I received from them "The iBlaast II has three Cree R2 LEDs with an output close to 1000 Lumens."

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    What can I say...

    Q5 @ 1A => 240 lum
    R2 @ 1A => 270 lum

    So how "close to" 1000 is 810 ??
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    BR lights is shipping their 1000 lumen model C2-K in a couple days, and you can get your old model upgraded for $100!

    I assume it is two Cree MC-E.

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    anyone have any comments on lumicycle? they claim 850 lumens from their 3led head on 'boost mode'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hit4six View Post
    anyone have any comments on lumicycle? they claim 850 lumens from their 3led head on 'boost mode'.
    It's possible, but only if they are using over 1000mA driver.
    Note that they also claim 150lumens@0.9W with 40hrs of runtime, which is impossible and real output in this mode is 90 lumens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoShoulder View Post
    I know this website celebrates the very best in lighting. Indeed, it seems like everyone enjoys watching the amazing march of progress with at least a fantasy eye toward owning the newest, lightest and brightest

    But...

    Not all of us (read: yours truly) have the technical knowledge, skills or $$$ to choose the best. This is my way of saying you may be singing the death song a little too early on incandescent lighting. It's so simple (even I can do it) and bright. I just looked at an $89 MR16 LED that just wasn't remotely as bright as my $6 halogen. I realize the efficiency of halogen doesn't come close to LED's but, over volted, it can exceed HID
    NoShoulder
    I think the point is that LEDs are improving so rapidly and the costs are coming down almost as fast that there's no point in listing halogens that are altready outclassed. I have halogens that I converted to LEDs and even overvolted they don't come anywhere close to being as bright as the converts. Cost...only ~$40 to get a 3led 700+ lumen light. It won't be long before lumens/$ goes way up on stuff for sale to others like you so the only reason I would include older halogen lights would be in a separate thread, maybe over at MTBR to list the best lights for modding with LEDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calina View Post
    Although I'm not keen on spending hundreds of dollars on a bike light, I applaud your initiative. I'm sure it will be useful for many members here.

    This could easily become a sticky.
    Thing being, is some of these like the diablo, can be easily dual purpose. Why spend £100 on a flashlight and £100 on a bike light, when £150 will get you one that does both!

    Spoke to exposure today and they are also looking at making them waterproof, so dive/bike/general flashlight....makes one expensive torch perhaps the way to go!

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    One thing I don't see is the light distribution, which might be very important. lumens is a measure of how much light is output. If it covers a wide angle it's not very bright and if it's too narrow it only lights up what's straight in front, unless it's helmet mounted. Then if it's wide it's still not bright and if it's narrow it's very shakey and you have to hold your head just so.

    I was just looking into LED lighting for a generator light (I'm way too disorganized to remember to charge and carry batteries and have been known to stay out way later than I planned so a generator works for me.) Generators put out about 3w. I made a proto with 15 each of two different half angle LEDs. Half are 9 degree and half are 30 degree. Now they aim together, which is a bother, but they provide a spot 20 or 30 feet out (15 mph is 22 fps) and wide area of light in front of the wheel. The narrow spot provides forward lighting which is aimed, in this incarnation with the handle bars. The wide angle light with a reflector to direct the light down provides good illumination up close for maneuvering around near obstructions. This is OK but way short of ideal. Now I'm designing two different lights. One for close and one for far lighting so they can be aimed separately.

    Does anyone have information or suggestions about the ideal light spread for riding?

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    What about the new Gloworm X2?

    mtbr.com write-up

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    This first post hasn't been updated since October 2010. It's not particularly helpful. 2012 brought a ton of changes in the availability of bike specific lights. And many people use inexpensive flashlights that never appear in any lists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a1penguin View Post
    This first post hasn't been updated since October 2010. It's not particularly helpful. 2012 brought a ton of changes in the availability of bike specific lights. And many people use inexpensive flashlights that never appear in any lists.
    +1

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