This is my personal ranking, which I update from time to time. These do not yet include the Osram IRC 50W & 65W and other bulbs. I moved my post out of this topic location which was getting a bit long.
Please note: Based upon my destructive bulb testing, these Lumen claims are using an outdated, innacurate AWR spreadsheet that does not reflect real, verified lumen numbers...so at best use these rankings as relative comparisons to each other. In other words, if I say the "MaxBlaster" puts out 4400 (bulb) Lumens, that is not turning out to be a "real" lumen number. It is a case of everyone agreeing upon the spreadsheet predictive values, akin to the "Emporor Has No Clothes" fable.
- 1)Sylathnie's Sublimator Osram 64663 36V 400W with 10s Emoli 18650 cells in Elephant-II with FM 2.5" Turbo Head.
- 2) Mrartillery's "Dominator" Osram 64656 275W with 7s IMR 27500 cells in a Mag 6D with FM3-X Head. Should be around 13-14,000 Lumens.
- 3) LuxLuthor's Vaporizer. Using Osram 64657 250W & 8s Emoli 18650 in Elephant with 60mm extension tube. Has balance charging plugs. Destructive testing data here.
- 4) LuxLuthor's HyperBlaster. This uses FiveMega's Chrome Elephant with extender body, and holds 3 stacks of the new Elite 1700mAh AA cells welded into a single pack. 10A side switch replaces stock Mag switch. Overdriving the Osram 250W 64655 bulb. 21 cells of Elite's new AA raw power....Oh yeah. It's bright.
- 5) Mac's 250w Elephant using 20 x 2/3A Elite NiMH Osram 24v 250w 64655 bulb at 10K L (?)
- 6) Osram 150W 64633 at 16.8V (ideally with new AlanB/JimmyM regulator). I just added this based solely upon my destructive testing, but have not made a working light with this due to the 50 Hr rated bulb life, and high liklihood of flashing the bulb with most battery combinations. If you can set a regulator to 16.8V, it should fit into this ranking.
- 7) LuxLuthor's "DeathBlaster" . Uses 16 x 2/3A NiMH cells in a 3D light charged to 22V off the charger with a 90W Osram 64458-S that has a tubular filament, so with FM3H-2, it gives an exquisite hotspot. Jimmy talked about this bulb and said using AWR's re-rating formula it came out to 175-200W's
- 8) "MaxBlaster" which uses the same Osram 64623 100w bi-pin bulb as Mac's Torch, but has one added battery, giving it 15.6V to drive the bulb even further. It is slightly brighter and hotter than Mac's Torch, at about 4400 L. It is also more available from Mad MaxaBeam at the present time.
- 9) Mac's legendary Torch which is of Uber-Quality, and has the switch in the tailcap. Uses the Osram 64623 100w bipin bulb, and 14.4V NiMH battery pack. About 4100 L. Sadly, he rarely makes these now. It is the subject of a YouTube paper burning video that has had 270,000 viewings to date!!!
- 10) Ginseng's Legendary and beautiful Aurora/Aurora 2. One of the most beautifully made lights I have seen, made by one of the "Grandfather's of CPF" (I put Newbie, js, bwaites and a few others in that rarified category). Reading his post reminds us of how much love and attention can be put into projects like this. He even worked on the finish by buffing and had wet-sanding before having it nickel plated. This was made way back in 2003 using the 64623 & GP2000 4/5A cells, and a 10A rocker switch. It screams "custom made" but looks better than 95% of any lights out today. Likely puts out the same as Mac's Torch.
- 11) The USL mod (search for it), and Mad MaxaBeam's Maglite like above MaxBlaster that uses a 13.2V battery pack with the Osram 64625 or 62138 100W bulbs. It is a whiter, and cleaner bulb than the 64623, but not as bright, not as hot, and not able to be driven with the higher voltage.
- 12) The 64430 35W 6V bulb overdriven to 9.8 or 9.9V gives about 1800 bulb lumens. Best to have a regulated drive with soft starting. Wonderful solution to a smaller light. Because it needs about 9.5 to 10A of current you should look at powering this with either the new A123 or Emoli safe Lithium chemistries, or a NiMH high output pack using cells such as the Elite 2/3A or 1700mAh AA's. I have a large supply of the authentic Osram 64430 bulbs that are no longer made.
- 13) FiveMega's Carley 43W bulb that they custom made for him and gives about 1500+ bulb lumens. I power this with 2p4s of 14670 AW Li-Ion cells without regulation, and it is amazing.
- 14) The legendary Philips 5761 30W 6V bulb overdriven to about 7.2V Many have used this bulb in C size Mags with 2 x AW C Li-Ion cells, but it requires about 5.5A, so it is close to tripping his protection circuit. Again ideal for a regulated driver with soft start. The Emoli 26700 or 18650 are alternate battery sources. Works out to about 1400+ lumens.
- 15) the 1164 WA Bulb being overdriven by FiveMega's Maglite mod to 9.6V. It is not as bright as the 43W bulb, despite it being promoted as 1500L on this GB thread. An excellent light, and clearly brighter than the 1185. To my comparison, this is also not as bright as the Philips 5761. Perhaps if it is used in a regulated scenario it would be a bit brighter.
- 16) The legendary WA-1185 Maglite, that can be in any size as long as you have the Voltage in the 11-12.2V range. This link is using Li-Ions (11.1V) is about 1300 L. However this link is using 9 NiMH that gives 10.8V for about 1200 L.
- 17) Adding the SureFire M6 (with higher output MN21 bulb) in this position, but it is a more flood spot than focussed WA bulbs above and below this ranking. As a result, their small hotspots are brighter than the larger M6 spot. There are other mods using different bulb setups which can be compared in this thread.
- 18) I think it is a tie at around 900 L between the WA-1111 overdriven to 7.4V here, and the WA-1166 overdriven to about 12.55 V shown here. My personal preference between these two because of the beautiful white beam, is the 1166. Killer light in a 1D regulated 4x14500 or 14670 Li-Ion cells, with Hotdriver set at 12.58V which gives a killer, very white 1166 hotspot.
- 19) ROP using a potted Pelican 3854-H which is a 24W bulb (larger one that has pointed tip), powered by 2 x AW C Li-Ions in a 2C. Just tested this with freshly charged Li-Ions that measured 8.2V in bulb socket. No resistance fixes done. I did attach a lead to the tailcap spring and making contact with side gave me 4.1A. Recent 3853-H was also tested in Destructive thread.
- 20) The FiveMega custom Carley CL-1794 7V driven with 2 x 18650 Li-Ion cells in a D-26 small tube form factor. Shootout views here, and discussion in my Destructive Tests thread.
- 21) The WA-1331 overdriven by 3xLi-Ions at 11.1V to give about 700 L. These are beautiful and very white bulbs in a nice, compact size. I have seven of these FiveMega lights in various models. Again this would be brighter with a soft starting regulated setup.