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    Arrow FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC & Bulk

    It's time I begin a sales thread of the new TnC C-Flex parts. At this time I have prototype bare aluminum parts to sell, however anodized parts are in the works and will be added to this thread when they arrive. With these C-Flex parts we are attempting to provide quality, utility, versatility, adaptability and numerous patterns from standard to one-off designs.



    These C-Flex Tubes take advantage of AW's C Li-ion batteries for extended runtimes for flashlights on a single or multiple Li-ion cells. At 53mm in length the C-Li-ion cell is considerably shorter than the 18650 cell at 65-68mm and you get 50% more capacity with the C-Flex. Also unique to the C-Flex is the unparalleled compatibility with various heads from TnC and other flashlight builders. This modularity follows a similar path as the TnC SF-Series modular system. As are other TnC parts, these are built with 6061 T6 aluminum for superior heat and electrical conductivity as well as corrosion resistance. Of course parts have o-rings to keep out the elements.



    The C-Flex Tube consists of a built in McClicky switch for a one piece tube and tail combination (C-Flex tube pictured in the hand above). This keeps costs of the parts down and provides a shoter tube/tail combination with improved integrity. Once you have a C-Flex tube/tail then you will want an C-Flex Adaptor to a head of your choice and you might want a C-Flex 1x C Extender to use more than 1x C battery cell depending on the application.

    Although the C-Flex Tube comes with an integrated McClicky switch there is also a solid aluminum tail twist switch available for high wattage bulb applications and a two stage twist switch utilizing the Mc2Es. These twist tails will include a recessed Lanyard attachment and a maybe a Tripod thread as well. The C-Flex will also fit regular C cells with our available spacers. Examples of some complete lights using C-Flex parts are pictured below.



    The C-Flex Adaptors fit the C-Flex Tube with many Heads to choose from. More Adaptors are in the works pending demand or interest stated for popular lights including Surefire TurboHeads with a unique Adaptor. The same is true for M*g heads and additional future TnC heads as well.



    With the C-Flex 1x C Extenders you can add as many additional battery tubes as desired. Below are examples of uses for the C-Flex. In the first picture you can substitute any TnC SF-Series Head, lantern or VIP Head for the BBH shown in this setup. These include the TnC SF-Series 27mm and 20mm heads, as well as lantern heads and the (3) VIP heads, all using the TnC Canister with a converter and LED.



    Complete TnC Light pictured below.



    C Series Surefire heads work on C-Flex tubes and extenders for both LED and Lamp Assemblies, or even hotwires with our available low impedance solid twist tail switch. The C-Flex C Series setup shown below works the same for any Surefire C Series head. You can add C-Flex Extenders if you need more voltage or runtime.



    The E Series Adaptor fits on any Aleph or Surefire E Series heads using Aleph or E Series electronics. The E Series adaptor uses a gold plated copper peg in the Delrin insert for best conductivity. Pictured is a C-Flex Fleur Tube/Tail, with a C-Flex E Series/Aleph Adaptor and an Aleph A3 head.



    The C-Flex adaptor for the Lioncub/chamelion/dragon fits the (3) Mr Bulk heads using TnC canisters. Pictured below is a Bubble C-Flex tube/tail, a C-Flex Lioncub/Chameleon/Dragon Adaptor, and a Lionhead. This particular light sports an Aspheric lens.



    For further discussion at this time please view the threads linked below or post in this thread. I will be adding to this post and answering questions in this thread as well.

    New C-flex bodies

    TnC "C" Flex bodies

    From posts 102-118 there are pictures and discussion of the C-Flex on this thread:
    TnC SF-Series parts/lights and the new TnC online store

    Lastly as viewed on the TnC Online Store:
    TnC C-Flex

    The C-Flex parts below are avialable for sale now in this thread. The quantities in stock are listed in red below on the left (#). Parts sold or On Hold are listed to the right. Parts prices listed are for bare aluminum. For Anodized parts please see our C-Flex listings in our TnC Online Store.

    (2) Standard Tubes $55 (1) JeffB, (1) ON HOLD, (2) Praetor, (1) nitnapz, (1) Tdurand
    (4) Standard Extenders $42 (1) JeffB, (1) Praetor, (1) Tdurand
    (1) TnC SF-Series Adaptors $40 (1) JeffB, (1) ON HOLD, (1) Praetor, (1) nitnapz, (1) Tdurand, (1) Glock18
    (1) C Series Adaptors $42 (1) Praetor, (1) Tdurand, (1) Glock18
    (0) E Series adaptor $45 (1) ON HOLD, (1) Praetor, (1) Tdurand
    (0) Lion Cub adaptors $40 (1) Tdurand, (1) Praetor, (1) Glock18

    (1) Bubble 3D tube $75 SOLD to Mac, one more available



    (0) Dragon Back Tube $75 SOLD Praetor and Mac, Glock18



    (1) Dragon Back Extender $60 SOLD Praetor, one more available

    (1) Groovy Tube $60



    (1) Groovy Extender $47

    (1) C Straight Tube $55



    (1) Straight Extender $42



    (0) Fleur Tube $75 SOLD Glock18



    (0) Prismatic tube $85 SOLD to Glock18

    We will build additional patterns in the future including regular knurling to closely match Surefire parts. We may even be taking orders for designs of your own making, such as initials, USA, etc. We can mill these patterns into the tube for interesting textures and a truly unique look. Unlike engraving, this will be permanent. These custom designs can either be milled on the 'Straight Tube' as shown or on the Standard C-Flex tube with the diagonal knurling (such as on the 'Fleur' tube). We may even offer patterns of your choice or design to be milled into an already anodized tube for a striking appearance. Since deburring won't be possible after milling into an anodized body, the 'Straight Tube' might make the best candidate for this. The milled design could be a single or recurring pattern similar in scope to the 'Fleur' tube which has the pattern repeat (4) times around the tube.

    Please post your interest in this thread. First to post "I'll take it" gets the part as long as you follow through in a reasonable time frame. If a part is already taken then please post interest for another one to be built and please state whether you wish your parts in bare, NAT HA, or Black HA. Any custom milled designs desired please post in the thread. If you are stricken with the Ti affliction then please post interest that as well. We can do this but these parts would be costly in Ti.

    Shipping is $3 for the first part ordered and $1 additional shipping for each additional part for First Class CONUS with delivery confirmation. For priority shipping is $7. Please PM me for international orders shipping quotes.

    If paying by cash paypal please send to catsndog AT inreach DOT com and include ordering details including your CPF name. If paying by credit card please pay to Bogus1cc AT earthlink DOT net

    Thanks for looking.
    Last edited by Bogus1; 08-03-2008 at 10:22 PM.

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    Party Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    These are great, i'll be buying a couple in BA in a couple of days.
    and a whole lot of HA ones, once they're available!


    Thanks for making these available Eric!

    So many possibilites.
    I miss my Milkmods.

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    Party Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    I've been a big fan of TnC Products since from the Key-Lux, Lith-Lux, SF's (not to mention the TnC-machined VIP, LionCub, Chameleon, ). Forward-thinking design and flawless fabrication makes for a winning combination and make TnC lights a real stand-out. The C-Flex parts add a new dimension to my LEGO set!

    Fromt he looks of it, the C-Flex system will make my multi-emitter heads genuinely useful flashlights. My Icarus Quad-Lux will be my "go-to" light. No more worrying about when I last charged the batteries. 2 x C Li-Ion ... that's a lot of mAh! Full-power runtime in the hours, not minutes.

    Then there are the XX1T ArcMania Towers and Turbo Heads! Hmmmm.

    Ok, let's see what I need! How about we start out with...

    (1) DragonBack Tube
    (1) DragonBack Extender
    (1) E-Series Adapter

    I'd like to build up a Chameleon/Lioncub kit and probably a SF Turbohead too. Once I get hold of these parts I'll figure out how it all fits together and which parts I need to order for the other kits. I'd probably like the next set anodized. When do you expect those to be ready?

    Any plans to put together a Tri-Rebel TnC complete head? I think that would make a nice front-end to the C-Flex tube!

    Ok... now I've got to order some batteries.

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    Hi Praetor,

    Thanks for the nice post!

    I might have the anodized parts in as soon as a week.

    Yes we have plans for a couple heads, one rather large.

    We plan to adapt the C-Flex for a bike light as well as some other ideas if there is demand.

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    ... that sounds great.

    Quick question...

    I've got a couple of the TnC SureFire TurboHead-to-E fittings.

    Is there any advantage (cosmetic or otherwise) to using the C-series adapter and mating to the SF Turbohead that way, as opposed to a E-Series adapter and the SF Turbohead with the TnC fitting?

    I hope that makes sense...

    Just trying to figure out the best way to go!

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    I think it looks cleaner with the C-Flex to C Series adaptor but that is all a matter of taste. Below the Dragon Back Milled tubes are using the C-Flex to E Series adaptor and then the TnC E Series -> Surefire TH Adaptors



    Here are the same C-Flex parts except using the C-Flex to C Series rather than to the E Series as show above. The KL3 is not the Surefire TH, but I think it's pretty clear what it would look like.


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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    That's very helpful, Eric. A picture is worth a thousand words!

    And as a result, I'd like to change my setup a bit...

    I will take:

    (2) C-Flex Standard tube
    (1) C-Flex Standard Extender
    (1) C Series Adapter
    (1) E Series Adapter
    (1) SF Series Adapter
    (1) Bulk Adapter

    That will give me the flexibility to run it all...

    I will PayPal you immediately so that I can't change my mind again!

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    I've done some editing to provide graphics to pictures to try to explain the C-Flex more thoroughly. I know we are trying to buck the system providing offerings this complex, but we are building lights and parts we want to use and can only hope others want to as well. Any input would be appreciated! Thanks for looking.

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogus1 View Post
    we are building lights and parts we want to use
    “Build your own” and the results are some of the best in the flashlight industry.
    We all wish we could say the same in our own industries. Congratulations!

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    i've seen the light... and sure that i am not missing anything
    TnC C-Flex SF-Series Series Head Adaptor [Bare Aluminum] $40.00


    TnC C-Flex 1x C battery tube with clicky [Bare Aluminum] $55.00


    TnC SF-Series 27mm Head (Cree) Bare Aluminum $61.50


    TnC 27mm Supreme King's Crown aluminum bezel $35.00


    TnC Canister Q5 WC tint Cree LED and flupic driver $90.00

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    281.50 USD + shipping to canada
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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    I'm interested in a C flex tube for Surefires. Threaded for SF C-series tail and C-series heads (or a compatible "power pack") in HA Black or Nat.

    Insane runtimes from an AW C LiIon appeal to me.

    An 18650 tube for C Head and Tail would also be welcome but all I can find are tubes that fit E tails. Plus you don't specify on your website if your SF power packs are compatible with E heads or C bezels.
    Neutral white, it's the new black.

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    Quote Originally Posted by PhantomPhoton View Post
    I'm interested in a C flex tube for Surefires. Threaded for SF C-series tail and C-series heads (or a compatible "power pack") in HA Black or Nat.

    Insane runtimes from an AW C LiIon appeal to me.

    An 18650 tube for C Head and Tail would also be welcome but all I can find are tubes that fit E tails. Plus you don't specify on your website if your SF power packs are compatible with E heads or C bezels.
    The C-Flex tubes already have a McClicky switch built into the tail and price. We will have available a low profile twist switch either in solid aluminum for low impedance or in a Mc2Es for a two stage twist switch. No additional tail is necessary and wouldn't fit.

    We had a problem with the anodizers and sent back the Black C-Flex parts. The NAT parts are good but they didn't return the retainer rings so that should be a hold up of about another week or two until we have complete NAT C-Flex parts to sell (pending the holiday schedule).

    We have a power pack listed on the store for TnC SF-Series that works on E Series heads, but it uses TnC Canisters and won't run on E Series or Aleph electronics. I will be selling some bare adaptors (power packs) in a week or two that fit E Series heads using E Series or Aleph electronics. The anodized parts should follow in another week or two. The C Series adaptors for the TnC SF-Series tubes will be available in the beginning of next year.

    Also available in the beginning of next year will be extenders for TnC SF-Series tubes so you will be able to run as many 18650, 18500, or AA batteries in TnC SF-Series lights as needed or using various other heads with the SF-Series' many adaptors. We will also be introducing another battery tube design while continuing to stock existing parts on our store.

    If there is interest in any of these parts or other parts not mentioned please show interest. Thanks

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    nitnapz I received your E check. Thanks

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    Eric-
    The store is not cooperating tonight and I'd like to order some C stuff.
    Please check your PM.
    Thanks
    T

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    This C-Flex stuff is GREAT.
    I hardly use any of my other lights anymore!

    Eric -

    I sent you a PayPal today for the following:

    WH Cree Q5@ $90
    SF-Series 27mm Cree head (bare) $61.50
    Dragon Back Tube @$75
    Dragon Back Extender @$60
    Shipping $5.

    Thanks again!

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    Praetor, I'm glad you are pleased and thanks for the order. I'll ship Monday.

    Hi T, PM sent.

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    PM to you!


    Karl

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    Double post

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    Hi Karl, PM sent. Sorry for the delay. I'm still out of town but will be back by Monday. Thanks

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    Eric-
    for the order referenced in my PM.

    Thanks!
    T

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    Here's a couple pictures of C-Flex parts I'll be selling soon. The top is a TnC 27mm complete C-Flex light in HA-Natural. The anodizing appears nice and thick and color match between parts is very close (unlike the picture). These hard anodized (HA) tubes will be available in Black and NAT. The threads are coated for improved conductivity and corrosion resistance.



    Shown below is a KL3 Surefire Head, TnC C-Flex C Series Adaptor, and a C-Flex 1x C tube/tail.



    Below are twist tails available for the C-Flex either in a solid aluminum twist tail or with a Mc2Es two stage twist switch. These switches include a removable threaded lanyard attachment. The threads in the tail also allow for the use of a tripod with a ¼-20 size hole. These tails will be available anodized as well. Rough prototypes are shown in the picture.

    Last edited by Bogus1; 11-29-2007 at 06:34 PM.

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    I have the anodized C-Flex available for sales now and will post some of these on the store. For cash buyers please purchase from this thread. Anodizing on these parts cost us $8.50 per part and I am just passing this cost along, so please add $8.50 to the cost of bare aluminum standard parts and adaptors listed below in the first post.

    Below is pictured a TnC C-Flex 27mm Black HA complete light.



    Below is a C-Flex NAT tube/tail, and a C-Series Adaptor mated with a Surefire M2 head. The anodizing is a close match.



    Below is a new C-Flex tube prototype. The unique design on this tube with the 3D milling creates a prismatic effect that doesn't show in the photograph.

    Last edited by Bogus1; 12-05-2007 at 05:14 PM.

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    Buttrock Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    i received my TnC baby last week and programmed it within an hour or so. Subsequently, I cannot stop playing with it, and programming the strobe on your bed when pointing up at the ceiling would either blind you or trip you out. i see stars. anywho, i thought i would glow powder it, i went with green, but maybe i'll make a blue disk.

    FlupicV2.2 is difficult to understand, but all in all, it's more of a personal light as it may get thrown off procedures or brightness levels if someone is just clicking away. so to me, this is not an idiot proof light, but if understood, could be a very practical light. right now i use procedure 4.

    brightness1
    brightness4
    brightness10
    strobe
    beacon
    --
    supreme king's crown detail.

    --

    --
    size proportion vs BB pearl

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    ghetto disk with glowpowder and cellophane(sp?) tape and punched with hole punch, stretched a little for perfect fit










    ..

    all in all, using 3300mah from AW's Clion is awesome !

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    Nice touch with the glow powder

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    Here's a couple pics with the Surefire KT TH. The color matching is much better than shown in the pics. I'll try to list our NAT C-Flex parts on the store today. We are getting the Black HA C-Flex parts anodized again because they didn't pass our standards. The top pick has a 1x C tube with the integrated tail and a 1x C extender with a C-Series adaptor. The bottom pic is the same without the 1x C extender.




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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    I've decided to go ahead and just lower the price on the C-Flex HA-NAT tubes as shown in the link below. I've lowered the tube price by $8.50 due to (3) ano pin holes by the tail end. We paid that cost on these but instead of racking the parts on the ID they racked them on the OD in the anodizing process leaving these small marks. Doing parts over is a sketchy affair at best as often the parts come back much worse. Other than the small rack marks these tubes look very nice IMO.

    TnC C-Flex 1x C battery tube with clicky [HA-Natural]

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    Hmm, B1, a call?


    Karl

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    Eric, I have a few setups of BBHs (Big Bulk Heads) for use in throw lights. They have always produced a spot image for great distances. One of these uses a TNc tube and, while looking like a wineglass, really does get the beam out in a most compact package. I'd like to see what might be a possibility with thicker battery tube to produce a more balanced package.

    I have recently been using some of AW's "C" LIons to power Aspherical Mags and, I would like to use them in a modular setup with the BBH and possibly a Cree for some outstanding throw. Now, we all know the limitations of the Aspherical combinations--99% all throw and virtually no spill. I want it all!! Can you suggest a can that will give me great throw with the BBH but with some usable spill--this, combined with the "C" will give me some great performance both in output and runtime.


    Karl

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    I've taken some custom milled tubes off "ON HOLD" at the bottom of the first post. I had a no show on these.

    Hi Karl,

    Thanks for your interest. I am not happy with the beam from the Cree through the BBH. The best setup right now for throw would be with a Seoul. The Seouls really don't like to be driven too hard so I'd suggest a 1amp driver. I don't think you'd want to go with a lower drive level since it wouldn't make a lot of sense to me to have a 3" head unless you were going to maximize the output. I have a few options at 1amp. I have TnC Canister USW0H SSC LED and Flupic Driver 1amp burst. Or if you prefer a warmer tint I can build these in V0. You can go with a standard flupic with a burst at DD, but burst would have to be for momentary use only TnC Canister USW0H SSC LED and Flupic Driver or TnC Canister USV0H SSC LED and Flupic Driver. If you don't like flupics the only options for using Li-ions and a single stage would be a SDC1000 which is a SuperDownConverter at 1amp by MJ, or I have DB1000 boards I can build as well.

    We have the new K2s and are playing with them, but it's too soon for me to know whether these will work better in this setup even though you can drive them harder. Either way they will work in the BBH since there is adjustment available with the canisters.

    My favorite beam to date in the BBH is our X bin cans TnC Canister XY0S 750mA Boost 3.7v - 6v. The beam isn't needle like throw, but it's generous and very appealing.

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    Default Re: FS *C-Flex* C Li-ion battery Tubes, Extenders & Adaptors for E & C Series, TnC &

    I have a few spare C Li-ion cells I could sell at cost with the purchase of C-Flex setups if that's hanging anyone up.

    We are going to build some standard cell solutions using the C-Flex, whether it be a battery carrier for multiple AAAs, sub C cells or whatever. We built spacers so you can use regular C cells in the C-Flex tubes now, I'll be listing those some time this month. Actually these spacers would work to convert any AW C Li-ion tube to standard C. That will give guys the ability to drive the new K2 or Crees harder than 3.6v if they want and many other options.

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