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    Default Re: what is the brightest AAA LED torch ?

    Possibly the Fenix LOD Q4 driven with a 10440 cell.

    Or maybe the Extreme III.

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    Keep in mind that AAA flashlights are a poor choice if you want high output. AAA cells are too weedy to drive powerful emitters for a long time.
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    Default Re: what is the brightest AAA LED torch ?

    Can it be the Tiablo A1 ?

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    Default Re: what is the brightest AAA LED torch ?

    I have the lod q4 and the a1 and in my case the lod q4 is brighter with normal alkalines aswell as with my ultrafire 10440 cells (used a smal piece of alluminium foil to get the + contact in the a1) though the a1 on 10440`s is pretty bright!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gesteenbergen View Post
    I have the lod q4 and the a1 and in my case the lod q4 is brighter with normal alkalines aswell as with my ultrafire 10440 cells (used a smal piece of alluminium foil to get the + contact in the a1) though the a1 on 10440`s is pretty bright!
    What does it mean? is the A1 brighter with 10440 batteries ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxilux View Post
    What does it mean? is the A1 brighter with 10440 batteries ?
    10440 is a AAA sized 3.6V Li-ion cell, which overdrives a Tiablo A1 or Fenix L0D beyond it's specified operating voltage range. This results in much more light output, most probably a very high rate of LED degradation, and possibly catastrophic failure of the LED and/or electronic drive circuitry. Oh, and will likely void your warranty as well.

    Note, some might argue that Fenix is rated for 3.3V max and will likely drop the 10440 cell's terminal voltage to 3.3V or less very quickly once loaded. The choice is yours. If you want to risk breaking it for a few extra photons, that's fine. What bugs me is a general cultural acceptance on CPF of exceeding operating specifications of devices with the expectations that "they can take it" just because it appears to be working at the moment.

    Refer here for a more scientific analysis of this subject (applied to 5mm LEDs, but easily applicable to power LEDs):

    http://www.molalla.net/~leeper/5mmdeg.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fallingwater View Post
    Keep in mind that AAA flashlights are a poor choice if you want high output. AAA cells are too weedy to drive powerful emitters for a long time.
    My Led Lenser Tactical focus uses 3x AAA batts in it and I can rest assure its a powerful torch for its size.

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    Default Re: what is the brightest AAA LED torch ?

    I should have specified I meant lights powered by a single AAA.
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    I thought the general consensus regarding the brightest AAA light was the NiteCore DI ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamlau View Post
    I thought the general consensus regarding the brightest AAA light was the NiteCore DI ...
    Nitecore is AA
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    PEAK LED SOLUTIONS EIGER 10440- POWER LEVEL #8 with a 10440- and, yes the Rebel 0100 can handle the ultrafire 4.2-2.7 Volts. SCREAMER!!!!!!!!!

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    Default Re: what is the brightest AAA LED torch ?

    Let's get technical though guys, a 10440 is not a AAA and it says brightest AAA light, which in my opinion is different than brightest 10440 capable AAA light on a 10440.
    What kind of self respecting nocturnal being cannot see in the dark, one way or another?

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    Default Re: what is the brightest AAA LED torch ?

    I think the Liteflux LF2X might be the brightest on AAA.

    On 10440, it would be the Fenix LD01 SS
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    Default Re: what is the brightest AAA LED torch ?

    Maratac on 10440 is the brightest...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RAGE CAGE View Post
    PEAK LED SOLUTIONS EIGER 10440- POWER LEVEL #8 with a 10440- and, yes the Rebel 0100 can handle the ultrafire 4.2-2.7 Volts. SCREAMER!!!!!!!!!

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    oh definitly! The Peak Eiger #8 on a 10440 is a monster.

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    Default Re: what is the brightest AAA LED torch ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ergotelis View Post
    Maratac on 10440 is the brightest...
    I don't think so. I have a ITP A3 EOS, which is the same light engine:

    The 1 meter throw lux readings I just got with my Amprobe LM631A, using the same 10440 battery in both lights, and measuring three times swapping the battery between them and averaging the results:

    LD01................2113 lux
    ITP A3 EOS.......1904 lux

    Ceiling bounce:

    LD01................112 lux
    ITP A3 EOS........98 lux

    I have a Maratac on the way, when it gets here I'll reconfirm these numbers with it, in case the highest mode on the ITP is lower; all the research I've done so far indicates that it is not, however.
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    Default Re: what is the brightest AAA LED torch ?

    Can't prove it on myself, just read from others and reported the opposite :

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...27&postcount=1

    So,it is safe to say that these two have almost the same output

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    Default Re: what is the brightest AAA LED torch ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ergotelis View Post
    Can't prove it on myself, just read from others and reported the opposite :

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...27&postcount=1

    So,it is safe to say that these two have almost the same output
    Yes, the difference would be imperceptible.

    Also if they didn't use the same battery it is possibly not a valid comparison; the first comparison I did with the 10440's that were in each light had the ITP come out on top; but the battery in the LD01 was an older one. WHen I compared using the same battery the LD01 put out a little more light then the ITP.
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    A Nitecore NDI AAA would be sweet!
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    Default Re: what is the brightest AAA LED torch ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallingwater View Post
    AAA cells are too weedy to drive powerful emitters for a long time.
    What do you mean by "weedy" in this case?

    Thanks!

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    Captain Dave, you've awakened a 3.5 year old thread. May I suggest you take a look at some more recent AAA light threads? Lights and batteries have made quite some progress since this thread died.

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    Default Re: what is the brightest AAA LED torch ?

    Based on measurements in this table (link) in selfbuilt's review (link) of the Lumintop Tool AAA, the highest sustained high is approximately in the low 80lumens. A few models have a brighter high than that for about the first ten minutes in this graph (link) after which time their brightness suddenly drops some before leveling off.

    Thrunite on its website thrunite-store.com claims a high of 81 lumens for the new XP-G2 Ti2 model. Customers so far are finding that seems to be an accurate claim. However, that brightness was plotted in this graph (link), and its initial brightness declines during the first ten minutes.
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...light=thrunite
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...light=thrunite


    Dereelight claims 84 lumens for the XP-G DA3. I compared that to a Ti2, and my initial early impressions are that the high seems pretty close; it's hard to make an apples to apples comparison because of the warm-ish tint of our DA3. I think the DA3 is a fantastic light; I just don't anything about how well it sustains that brightness.

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...ght-DA3-Review


    Outside of that, there is a Lighthound-branded AAA model (sold at lighthound.com) which is a re-branded Balder BD-0 that claims a high of 126 lumens for 39 minutes. There is a thorough review of it in which the author finds that this claim seems to be accurate or at least in the ballpark. However, there is also a customer review posted at lighthound.com that says "With AAA I would guess 50 on high, 25 on medium, and 6 on low compaired to other lights I have"

    http://www.everydaycommentary.com/20...aa-review.html


    The Balder TD-0 AAA model has a claimed high of 140 minutes for 35minutes. Runtime graph: (link). The first link has a great indoor beamshot comparison, and the second link has great white wall beamshot comparisons.

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...ghlight=balder
    http://budgetlightforum.com/node/17421
    http://budgetlightforum.com/node/17245 *
    http://budgetlightforum.com/node/15006
    http://budgetlightforum.com/node/16539

    * "Shines a lot, but nowhere near 140 lumens, I can not measure it, but mine is less than 100."
    "[ I ] estimated a max of 116 lumen on start up, ~100 after 5 minutes."



    In this review link, there are some more suggestions and comparisons. This Ultrafire M5-R5 sounds promising.
    http://reviewsdelinternas.blogspot.c...ire-m5-r5.html



    For a sustained high brightness, my interpretation is that the Lumintop Tool and the Balder TD-0 seems like excellent models with regards to sustained high mode.
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    Default Re: what is the brightest AAA LED torch ?

    Mbi torpedo is supposed to be 500 lumens on a 10440
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    Wasn't the Peak Vesuvius supposed to be over 600 lumens on 10440 IMR.

    It's a AAA sized light that runs an XML emitter on direct drive, with optional QTC.

    Not the most practical light though. Such a large emitter in such a small light means the output will be all flood. And runtime is probably something like 5 minutes.

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    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by defloyd77 View Post
    Let's get technical though guys, a 10440 is not a AAA and it says brightest AAA light, which in my opinion is different than brightest 10440 capable AAA light on a 10440.
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