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    Default I did it!! My first ROP!!

    Finally got the bulbs and reflector in the mail from FiveMega today. You can bet that my wife still doesn't understand the excitement I had when she held that package infront of me....she asked me if we needed to build an extra "flashlight room" on the house!!

    ROP low with 6x Eneloops that had not been charged for some 30 days or so gave it a nice yellowish white beam that when compared to a Cree Q5 LED running at 1000mA actually seemed more pleasing. When I, of course, started lighting up every corner I could find, I found that the ROP's light I was able to clearly identify objects much better than with the LED's more blue-white light. Particularly the further the distance. I did not expect that.

    Now, when I put the Hi bulb in what can I expect? I will leave the batteries alone because they are more than rested and I don't want to blow anything.

    I thank each and every one of you incan guys for giving me the motivation to do this. It was worth the wait......now if that bi-pin holder setup from AW will ever get here....... 1185!!!

    Bob E.
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    Default Re: I did it!! My first ROP!!

    For me, both ROP bulbs can handle 6 fully charged eneloops without flashing. The high output bulb on freshly charged NiMHs is quite impressive compared to my LED lights (none more than 200lm).

    Put the high output bulb in the light, take it outside at night (away from outdoor lights)...and THEN compare it to your LED lights
    Last edited by copperfox; 02-13-2008 at 04:49 PM.


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    Default Re: I did it!! My first ROP!!

    Well done. Congratulations.
    I just finished my second Mag275-Lithium Edition in a copper 2D body.

    Copperfox is right. Charge those eneloops up and take that sucker outside in the dark.

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    OK, you have a deal on that. Actually I think I may take every flashlight I have built outside tonight and do some comparison.

    I should have added that I am using a completely stock 2 D M@g in the stock bulb holder...everything stock except for the reflector and battery holder.

    Isn't the ROP bulb like twice as bright?

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    Ok, didn't have to bring many flashlights outside. Brought the ROP I just put together and my 3 D cree Q5 powered (at 1A) flashlight out to the back yard.

    Two seconds and the test was done. At 50 feet at a 10 x 10 shed, the led light up the front of the building nothing else really, the ROP-Hi lit up the front and 5 feet any direction you want to pick, up, down, front...whatever. I was really amazed at the difference. Would not have suspected it.

    Let's go just 30 feet out the back door towards the old standard wood fence. With the LED you saw the fence but when you put the ROP on it, you could make out the detail on the fence, see characteristics of the wood that were not that apparent with the LED light.

    Finally, pointing across the street above the fence towards the top of the neighbors garage, the LED did illuminate the front of the garage but again, the ROP bulb just simply blew the LED away because you could see things. Details that didn't become apparent until you used and incan light on them.

    In conclusion. My LED lights are great for looking for stuff around the house, in the house, in the car......I think you get the point. Actually, you guys already know this. I am very, very impressed with these incandescent lights. I now realize what they can do....and even my Cree Q5 1A powered aspheric lensed flashlight can not do what this ROP can do. For the record with my Fluke DMM, the 6xAA Eneloop pack reads 7.89VDC which equates to 1.315VDC per cell

    This puts me back into a depressed state, again, waiting for parts for my Mag85. Honestly, I cannot wait to see just how much more this thing will have than the ROP-Hi.

    Incan is cool!!

    Bob E.
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    Should be much brighter with charged batteries and the rop bulbs. I wouldnt worry about blowing the rop bulb on 6 eneloops, i run mine on 7. Youll also need a glass lens.

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    Default Re: I did it!! My first ROP!!

    For the love of... incandescents.

    Congrats, Bob.

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    Nice story Good to hear when someone makes that discovery that incandescent shows more outside at night... seems a lot of diehard led fanatics here can't understand that of course, maybe it's because they've never actually seen a hotwire in action outside at night

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    +1 for the ROP!! i LOVE mine... i'll agree that incans produce a MUCH better color rendition outside, but i have to admit i EDC a led... mostly for efficiency... i EDC the P3D Q5... but as soon as i can find jeans with pockets big enough, you can bet i'll have my ROP right in there ...jnco anyone??

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    Default Re: I did it!! My first ROP!!

    Big power incans are awesome indeed.
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    Default Re: I did it!! My first ROP!!

    Thanks everyone for the comments. I started out here as an LED guy and then saw a few of the incans that you have built. All my LEDs I build now are mainly for "at" the house stuff for myself and familily members.

    Cydonia, you may have hit the nail on the head. I am very sure that alot of the LED guys have never seen a "real" incan do it's thing. Can't wait to get the Mag85 built.

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    Default Re: I did it!! My first ROP!!

    The ROP, particularly in 2D format is truly beautiful. I carry one wherever I can, just in case. It is the best value performance-incandescent available.

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    Default Re: I did it!! My first ROP!!

    I am a very recent convert to incandescence for outside use.
    Just built my first ROP and then converted to bi pin WA1111.

    Amazing amount of nice warm light....
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    SafetyBob, I think you can charge your eneloops a little bit more than that. Hot off the charger, my fivemega 6AA holder reads 8.4v. I think half a volt is noticeable in the first minute (but don't quote me on that). Swap the window for a glass one, too. You may not notice, but that's 5 to 8% more output waiting to be unleashed.


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    OK, here come the questions:

    Anglepoise, could you tell us what battery configuration you are using for your ROP with the WA1111 bulb. I almost went that way too, but I had to build "the" original ROP that started this whole thing off. I'm glad I did. I got incan fever now!! Besides the M@g85 coming up for me, any suggestions?

    Copperfox, I will charge these babies up tonight. I can't remember if I said it or not, I got that voltage from measuring on the fivemega holder, so with no resistance mods I can't wait to throw more juice to em! I put the borofloat lense on and I love the fivemega reflector (I left the cam on...is that necessary?).

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    Default Re: I did it!! My first ROP!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SafetyBob View Post
    OK, here come the questions:

    Anglepoise, could you tell us what battery configuration you are using for your ROP with the WA1111 bulb. I almost went that way too, but I had to build "the" original ROP that started this whole thing off. I'm glad I did. I got incan fever now!! Besides the M@g85 coming up for me, any suggestions?

    Bob E.
    Yes....I am using FM's 6AA-2D holder. 6 Sanyo 2700 mah batteries in series. With this battery combination, I have used Hi and Low ROP bulbs and WA1111.
    The Hi ROP and WA1111 are almost the same brightness to my eyes. However I was getting reflector fogging with the ROP ( out gassing I think) so I will stick to the bi pin.
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    Bob,

    Congratulations on your ROP build! I want to make one myself.

    Have fun with it.

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by SafetyBob View Post
    I put the borofloat lense on and I love the fivemega reflector (I left the cam on...is that necessary?).

    Bob E.

    I left the cam on too. Let us know how it turns out Bob!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglepoise View Post
    Yes....I am using FM's 6AA-2D holder. 6 Sanyo 2700 mah batteries in series. With this battery combination, I have used Hi and Low ROP bulbs and WA1111.
    The Hi ROP and WA1111 are almost the same brightness to my eyes. However I was getting reflector fogging with the ROP ( out gassing I think) so I will stick to the bi pin.
    This is why some people recommend running the light for 10 minutes with the head off.

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    Tonight I held my breath as I charged up the Eneloops.....fresh off the charger (literally) popped them in the M@g. Yes, I noticed a MUCH brighter light than I had before. I didn't go outside as it is raining, sleeting, or freezing rain.....not sure which right now. So I had fun in the house. WOW is all I can say.

    OK, heading outside!! Thanks everyone!!

    Bob E.
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    Default Re: I did it!! My first ROP!!

    Next, skip to the 5761 !

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    Default Re: I did it!! My first ROP!!

    Good to see another incan believer! (I love my LED lights for their small size and runtime, but when you want it bright, incan delivers.)

    When I put together my Mag85 last autumn, I of course took it with me when I was walking the dog at night. This was before snowfall, so it was really dark outside. I tested the throw across a small lake we live by and when we got back inside, my wife said she'd watched us through the window and we looked like a lighthouse beacon with the beam cutting back and forth across the lake. She doesn't like to admit it, but she was clearly impressed.

    That being said, the Mag85 is bigger than the ROP. I love the ROP for being a much more manageable 2D size.


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    I did go outside lastnight and blasted away. With the fully charged, hot off the charger eneloops, the old ROP-Hi bulb was able to light things I haven't seen in awhile on some of the neighbors houses. Amazing, yes I was giggling like a little kid with a new toy.

    Lux, the 5761 is on the drawing board as we speak with the parts for the Mag85 on the way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SafetyBob View Post
    I did go outside lastnight and blasted away. With the fully charged, hot off the charger eneloops, the old ROP-Hi bulb was able to light things I haven't seen in awhile on some of the neighbors houses. Amazing, yes I was giggling like a little kid with a new toy.

    Lux, the 5761 is on the drawing board as we speak with the parts for the Mag85 on the way.

    Bob E.
    How many minutes of "impressive" output did you get?

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    Default Re: I did it!! My first ROP!!

    Lux,
    Quick question for you.

    Is it practical to attempt to use a 5761 in a 2D
    using FM's bi pin adaptor, and 6 aa. Right now I am using 2700 Sanyo's.
    David............................................. "A few of my Home Built lights"

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    Bimemrboy318, I don't have a runtime for you. I just played no more than 3 to 4 minutes total. I didn't want to make the neighbors think that the SWAT team was in the neighborhood!

    Lux, I am with Anglepoise here, can we use the same 6xAA holders for the 5761? I got my tooling for the lathe and will attempt to cutdown and rethread a 3 D for use with 2x 26500 (?) Emolis this weekend.

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    Congrats man!! I was going to build one but I have a kind of LED ROP in the works....

    -Evan
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    Does anybody know if the ROP hi bulb will melt the bulb tower and how long a run it takes?

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    What do you guys mean melt the bulb tower? I have only one 3D Mag and the tower which the bulb goes into is full metal. It is an older one so are the new ones made with plastic towers or something?

    -Evan
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    Default Re: I did it!! My first ROP!!

    Quote Originally Posted by dlrflyer View Post
    Does anybody know if the ROP hi bulb will melt the bulb tower and how long a run it takes?
    The tower of my ROP became slightly textured because of heat. Since it happened it seems it haven't worsen with a few full battery discharge cycles (around 25 minutes). The solder blob may melt (quality problem) but if you reform it with an iron, it won't melt again! There is probably some flux left that lower the melting point of the solder. Also, many people recomment running the bulb for a few minutes (10-15) with thead off when the bulb is new, else the reflector can fog up (it happened with 2 ROP-HI bulb here, didn't happen with ROP-LO bulb).

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