Show your Rare/Unusual SureFires - Part 1

**Illum** · 03-09-2009, 06:29 PM

I absolutely loves SRTHs, I really wonder why surefire went to KTs

Less material to machine, greater reflector diameter, and black anodized, but more importantly, its black anodized

**Size15's** · 03-10-2009, 04:31 AM

The KT TurboHead was created to update SureFire's TurboHead line with a Glass (Pyrex) window - new retaining method required.
The style is such that a BeamFilter can be used. This is not the case with the SRTH.
Also, the reflector needed to be changed to allow for the larger, fatter, longer filaments of the MN-Series TurboHead Lamps.

The default finish for the KT TurboHead is Black type II anodised with type III natural 'HA' being the option...

**toby_pra** · 03-11-2009, 04:38 AM

Very nice Donn_!

Dont know where get all those lights...!?

**uhsodium** · 03-11-2009, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Size15's

The KT TurboHead was created to update SureFire's TurboHead line with a Glass (Pyrex) window - new retaining method required.
The style is such that a BeamFilter can be used. This is not the case with the SRTH.
Also, the reflector needed to be changed to allow for the larger, fatter, longer filaments of the MN-Series TurboHead Lamps.

The default finish for the KT TurboHead is Black type II anodised with type III natural 'HA' being the option...

Sorry off topiced
Then why SureFire changing from N2 to MN15?
seems that N2 is lot better than MN15
Just got my KT2 and it's not N2

**Size15's** · 03-12-2009, 01:38 AM

Originally Posted by uhsodium

Sorry off topiced
Then why SureFire changing from N2 to MN15?
seems that N2 is lot better than MN15
Just got my KT2 and it's not N2

The MN15 is to the N2 like the MN10 is to the P90.
SureFire updated their incandescent lamp technology with a completely new design. The MN10/MN15 produce brighter, whiter light for longer compared to the P90/N2. The robustness and lifespan were also improved.

The 'compromise' was a longer, curved filament that was no longer like a 'dot' or 'point source' - it is like a 'bar'. As a result the MN10/MN15 beam is not round - it is oval, and in order to achieve the beam quality SureFire are known for they had to increase the disruptive stochastic finish on the reflectors which takes the edge off the throw that can be achieved.

Whilst the N2 beam in the likes of the SRTH or T3 is very attractive, I feel the MN15 beam in the KT-TurboHead and Millennium TurboHead is more useful.

The KT2 has been supplied with the MN15 for quite a few years since the N2 lamp assembly was discontinued.

Al

**SG688** · 03-12-2009, 04:11 AM

I'm being told that this is unusual: 6P with plastic 6LF lamp assembly; purchased new in 1989 - in this box. Anodized over the tail threads. Some of the paperwork says only "Sure-Fire 6."

To my eyeball, output looks about the same as a P60, although it was rated - like the R60 - at 60 lumens, IIRC -- or, as it says here "11.5 candella."

**Solscud007** · 03-12-2009, 07:53 AM

Wow cool. that body looks just like my 6BL (baton light)

how thick is the body? if you put a normal 6P tail on it, is it thicker than the tailcap?

Like this.

**SG688** · 03-12-2009, 10:57 AM

No, it's a normal non-LOTC 6P. Just looks funny in pieces.

**houtex** · 03-12-2009, 01:53 PM

while searching I came across this http://www.gun-world.net/usa/acces/s...FLASHLIGHT.htm I hope its ok to post.Anyway there are some pics all over. Not mine but interesting pics.

**Size15's** · 03-12-2009, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by houtex

while searching I came across this http://www.gun-world.net/usa/acces/s...FLASHLIGHT.htm I hope its ok to post.Anyway there are some pics all over. Not mine but interesting pics.

Old School Classics!

**Patriot** · 03-12-2009, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by houtex

while searching I came across this http://www.gun-world.net/usa/acces/s...FLASHLIGHT.htm I hope its ok to post.Anyway there are some pics all over. Not mine but interesting pics.

Yum, I feel like a just robbed a gumball machine...

I really like that older M3 head too. I've forgotten the designation of it at the moment....

. Anyhow, I used to have one and let it go for some reason. Now I wish I hadn't.

**JNewell** · 03-12-2009, 05:12 PM

I like this pic, which is the earlier "short" 6Z (inferior to the later long tube, IMHO):

http://www.gun-world.net/usa/acces/surefire/6Z&9Z.gif

**DaFABRICATA** · 03-13-2009, 03:06 PM

A few Surefire SIX lights.

**Patriot** · 03-13-2009, 03:08 PM

Those are so darn neat DaDAB!!!

**willrx** · 03-13-2009, 07:35 PM

Super!!

**FredericoFreire** · 03-18-2009, 07:51 AM

A friend came up with this one (sorry for the blurry cellphone pics):

How much should worth? It says on the tailcap: "SURE-FIRE 6P-CH LASER PRODUCTS SWITZERLAND"

**Rverdi** · 03-18-2009, 01:13 PM

I'm not sure if they're rare or unusual, but they are the oldest ones I have. Probably close to 20 years old, they are weaponlights designed for the Beretta 92. No Surefire marking at all, just Laser Products. I would have posted these for sale awhile ago but have no idea what model they might be or how to price them. They work perfectly though.

**Size15's** · 03-18-2009, 02:59 PM

Rverdi,
Those are very old indeed!

SureFire made a version of the Beretta 92F/SB called model 633R and another for the Beretta 92F called model 637R.

What's interesting (to me anyway) is that you have not only the old-style remote, but the original style remote (the tape-pressure switch that is secured by Velcro)

The last style remote to be released was like the old SlimLine.
Whatever, the original version of the loose tape-pressure switch.

Photos of the other side, and from above would be excellent if you wouldn't mind please!
I'm predicting there is unlikely to be a constant-on rocker switch as there looks to be a forwards-backwards shuttle switch found on the earlier versions.

Actually, I'm not that certain which order the various different versions came in other than the loose remote tape pressure switch version was first.

Al

**Patriot** · 03-18-2009, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by FredericoFreire

A friend came up with this one (sorry for the blurry cellphone pics):

How much should worth? It says on the tailcap: "SURE-FIRE 6P-CH LASER PRODUCTS SWITZERLAND"

The "SWITZERLAND" part is interesting.

Al, what's your take on that?

**Rverdi** · 03-18-2009, 06:16 PM

Al,
Thanks for the info, I'll try to post pics of the other side tomorrow but your correct about the switch. What is different between the 633 and 637?

**Size15's** · 03-18-2009, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Patriot36

The "SWITZERLAND" part is interesting.

Al, what's your take on that?

In the old days when getting SureFire in Europe was even more difficult than it was today I guess it was an enticement to support Swiss SureFire Dealers and the Distributor likely ordered a sufficient number to have them customer-etched.
I don't think they are especially rare or unusual - at least not in Switzerland, but to a collector or interesting SureFire variations it is likely worth having one.

**Size15's** · 03-18-2009, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Rverdi

Al,
Thanks for the info, I'll try to post pics of the other side tomorrow but your correct about the switch. What is different between the 633 and 637?

I don't know but there must be an obvious difference between the Beretta 92F/SB and the Beretta 92F that means they can't accept the same WeaponLight housing and/or mounting mechanism. From what I can gather the "92F" has a slightly reshaped grip and trigger-guard.

**Rverdi** · 03-18-2009, 07:58 PM

N ow it makes sense. Yes, the SB is the older design, rounded trigger guard and slight difference in the frame contour. F has a square trigger guard, which is what these are for.

**Pontiaker** · 03-19-2009, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by DaFABRICATA

A few Surefire SIX lights.

Those look familiar, I still have a one of the first short 6z lights, will post a pic later....
Matt

**zx7dave** · 03-19-2009, 08:58 PM

Here is my little donation to this thread

**brammalay** · 03-25-2009, 02:32 AM

Anyone want to sell surefire 6c. I'm new here. I hope someone can help me find one

Thanks in advance

**griff** · 03-25-2009, 09:46 AM

**willrx** · 03-25-2009, 09:58 AM

That is really nice with the blue background.

**DaFABRICATA** · 03-26-2009, 12:16 AM

**Tempest UK** · 03-26-2009, 03:28 AM

Good find, DaFAB

I love mine, exactly the same shade as the A2.

Regards,
Tempest

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