!!POST YOUR SUREFIRE COLLECTION!! II

[Monocrom]

My addiction has not ended and is slowly growing....

That's a good-looking 3P Frankenstein light you have in the 2nd pic. (3rd light from the bottom, on the right).

[Tempest UK]

DaFAB - the body of the second light from the right on the bottom row of your E-series photo almost looks silver it has been so worn

Do you have another photo of it?

I am once again away from most of my collection, so photos of my own are unfortunately not possible. Just got a DSLR though, so I'll definitely make an effort to do some collection photos when I get back.

I'm surviving on just 2 M6s at the moment

Regards,
Tempest

[will]

If you decide to offer that service, I'm sure many Surefire collectors would be interested....

That seems like a good idea so - I made up a few using Koa, Cocobolo, and Amboyna Burl. I listed them in this thread

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...eferrerid=4688

[Monocrom]

That seems like a good idea so - I made up a few using Koa, Cocobolo, and Amboyna Burl. I listed them in this thread

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...eferrerid=4688

Your thread really took off. Glad I was able to help, in a small way.

[danpass]

Ok. I've seen this in a few pics now .... which Surefire spares carrier is that? Looks like it holds an even dozen batts.


edit: Ok I made the connection that it is the 12B Hurricane "light". Is it sealed? Can the circuit be disabled without breaking the seal?

[Team Member]

Ok. I've seen this in a few pics now .... which Surefire spares carrier is that? Looks like it holds an even dozen batts.


edit: Ok I made the connection that it is the 12B Hurricane "light". Is it sealed? Can the circuit be disabled without breaking the seal?

There is no seal. Just open the box a bit and the light turns off.

[danpass]

So its not o-ringed like the SC models

[gsxrac]

Well now that ive gone through all of those pages and seen everybody else's collections mine looks a little puny but ohh well im proud of it. Most all of my lights get used on a regular basis. See if you can figure which one was my first/favorite...

[danpass]

the A2 is on the way

[toby_pra]

nice green...

[danpass]

nice green...

yeah lol, not very OD. I'll white balance a bit better this weekend

[danpass]

Awwwwwwwwright!!!!

Finally got her.


Click pic

[cruisemissile]

Here's our ever-growing collection at the moment...



The addiction has gotten worse ever since I started reading CPF a month ago!

nice...
question- does the MP5's muzzle flash affect the bezel of the light?
It seems like the bezel is directly next to the muzzle and might get blast and powder spray.

[Size15's]

nice...
question- does the MP5's muzzle flash affect the bezel of the light?
It seems like the bezel is directly next to the muzzle and might get blast and powder spray.

It has long been the case that the heat and blast from the muzzle will put deposits on the bezel of the MP5 WeaponLight (and some handgun WeaponLights too). Prolonged exposure to heavy use may result in some permanent pitting or related wear and tear with the anodisation and possibly even some wearing away of the aluminium too. The Lexan window can also become worn. The advantage of the classic Z32 is that the Lexan window can be replaced by the user should it become damaged.

The benefit of having the light parallel to, and so close to the longitudinal axis of the barrel is that in CQB the rounds hit where the light beam shines. This is important for those wearing 'gas masks' and working in tight, dust/smoke/blast etc filled rooms. There's also reduced chance of the bezel catching on things such as slings, clothing and whatnot.
Another benefit in these operations is that with multiple operators it is possible to get an idea of which targets are being covered [and which parts of the room or which people aren't]

Al

[DM51]

It seems like the bezel is directly next to the muzzle and might get blast and powder spray.

You are right. The muzzle blast and scorching will be severe in that set-up. It is a very bad design indeed. The light should not protrude further forward than the end of the barrel - as well as muzzle blast, this exposes it to unnecessary knocks and adds to the overall length of the weapon.

[Size15's]

You are right. The muzzle blast and scorching will be severe in that set-up. It is a very bad design indeed. The light should not protrude further forward than the end of the barrel - as well as muzzle blast, this exposes it to unnecessary knocks and adds to the overall length of the weapon.

Whilst it may be a bad design, the MP5 WeaponLight is one of the most used WeaponLights in the world over the last twenty years (give or take). It's been the work horse of specialist military and police units and is still going strong today.

If the design was not workable or the downsides outweighed the advantages I'm certain that SureFire's close involvement with many of the world's finest special forces units would have seen it change long ago.

[manoloco]

It has long been the case that the heat and blast from the muzzle will put deposits on the bezel of the MP5 WeaponLight (and some handgun WeaponLights too). Prolonged exposure to heavy use may result in some permanent pitting or related wear and tear with the anodisation and possibly even some wearing away of the aluminium too. The Lexan window can also become worn. The advantage of the classic Z32 is that the Lexan window can be replaced by the user should it become damaged.

The benefit of having the light parallel to, and so close to the longitudinal axis of the barrel is that in CQB the rounds hit where the light beam shines. This is important for those wearing 'gas masks' and working in tight, dust/smoke/blast etc filled rooms. There's also reduced chance of the bezel catching on things such as slings, clothing and whatnot.
Another benefit in these operations is that with multiple operators it is possible to get an idea of which targets are being covered [and which parts of the room or which people aren't]

Al

That trade off is a very good one, specially in a cqb weapon like the mp5, and if like you said the disadvantages dont compromise the light functionality, its logical the design path they chose, i really think they have had this in consideration, and decided this way, i even think its possible it was a recommendation from someone on the field, i imagine in a cqb weapon were the light beam is offset from the target it can be very uncomfortable on a reflex situation.

then again i dont know jack regarding firearms and weapon lights...

[danpass]

couldn't resist

[Size15's]

danpass,
B&W gives your photo a lot of class. Especially adding those sunglasses.

[danpass]

danpass,
B&W gives your photo a lot of class. Especially adding those sunglasses.

thanks.

[DaFABRICATA]

Updated pic...

[Splunk_Au]

DaFABRICATA, are you a millionaire?

[DM51]

DaFABRICATA, are you a millionaire?

LOL, do you mean in $$ or lumens?

[Splunk_Au]

Prolly millionaire in $$$, and bazillionaire in lumens with all those lights he got!

[Justin Case]

It has long been the case that the heat and blast from the muzzle will put deposits on the bezel of the MP5 WeaponLight (and some handgun WeaponLights too). Prolonged exposure to heavy use may result in some permanent pitting or related wear and tear with the anodisation and possibly even some wearing away of the aluminium too. The Lexan window can also become worn. The advantage of the classic Z32 is that the Lexan window can be replaced by the user should it become damaged.

The benefit of having the light parallel to, and so close to the longitudinal axis of the barrel is that in CQB the rounds hit where the light beam shines. This is important for those wearing 'gas masks' and working in tight, dust/smoke/blast etc filled rooms. There's also reduced chance of the bezel catching on things such as slings, clothing and whatnot.
Another benefit in these operations is that with multiple operators it is possible to get an idea of which targets are being covered [and which parts of the room or which people aren't]

Al

My old Classic 3V weaponlight bezel surface for a Glock 19 suffered from a lot of blast damage. The knurling was basically worn off. However, the Lexan window was never damaged, just frequently coated with a layer of particles that cut the light transmission. It was easily wiped off.

I don't really see why 1" or 2" would matter in terms of hitting the target. The beam pattern is sufficiently wide that it's hard to believe that such a small offset matters. Anyway, you aim using your sights. If you were using a laser aiming device, then as close to coaxial mounting would matter a lot more. If you have a mask, you ought to have a red dot sight, which is vastly easier to use than irons. IMO, a dot sight is far more valuable than a small offset of the light. Also, in room entries, each operator has an assigned sector to clear. He's not focusing on someone else's beam of light. If he is, he's not paying attention to his sector, risking his and his teammates lives. The deal is that each operator has to trust that his teammates are doing their job.

If the offset were so critical, then I'm surprised that SureFire designed the M500, M900, shotgun foreends, and universal weaponlights the way they have -- with a larger offset than for the MP5. Here is an M900A on a suppressed Colt SMG.



Here's the old universal weaponlight for an AR-15/M16.



Another downside of such a small offset is that you can't fit a suppressor.

I've used the offset adapter for my MP5 and it works fine in CQB (I removed the suppressor and put it on the Colt for this series of photos). IMO, it is also important to have a constant-on capability for two-handed weapons. If I have to carry something or someone with my offside arm, I can't operate the fore-end light very easily.

[Team Member]

Some new additions..



Flat front KT4
A2 with four flats
6P
G2
E1L Outdoorsman
E2e
E-C adapters
SC3
KL3-HA-WH
KL3-BL-WH
KL5

[jamie.91]

i am currently looking for my first surefire ligt and was considering a 6p but on one of the posts i have seen a 3p but cannot find them on surefires website? any info would greatly be appreciated as i would love a 3p as my first surefire

jamie

[Tempest UK]

i am currently looking for my first surefire ligt and was considering a 6p but on one of the posts i have seen a 3p but cannot find them on surefires website? any info would greatly be appreciated as i would love a 3p as my first surefire

jamie

The 3P is a long discontinued model. It was replaced by the E1, which was replaced by the E1e.

Keep an eye on the Marketplace - they pop up for sale quite a lot.

Regards,
Tempest

[auxcoastie]

SureFire cases (for Beasts and HellFighters etc) are Hardigg Storm Cases rather than Pelican.

Well technically now they are the same company

[Size15's]

Well technically now they are the same company

I did not know that. I wonder what this means for protective cases?
[a subject for a whole different thread]