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    I just received a Fenix E01. I really like this light. I got it as a possible replacement for my old BS led Arc AAA.

    My Fenix E01 Mini Review and comparison to my aging Arc AAA:

    The Good: Perfect anodizing, fairly bright, long runtime, well made, tail standing ability, smooth threads, $15 shipped – Thanks 4Sevens!

    The Bad: Compared to the Arc AAA, it is big! Also the hotspot is not centered in the beam although it doesn’t matter much in real world use.



    Now to the good stuff!

    I had an extra Arc AAA (backup in case my primary one broke) which has sat unused since I bought it – my primary one just simply NEVER failed me! I decided to do a drop test off my balcony which is on the 5th floor. Below is a paved parking lot. I lobbed both the never used Arc and my brand new Fenix E01 off the balcony to see what would happen.

    The contenders:





    Both lights were turned on when they were dropped. As soon as they hit, I ran down to see the damage. I picked up the Fenix and it was still on! It works perfectly. I picked up the Arc and I got nothing. I decided to swap the batteries and the Arc fired up on the battery that was previously in the Fenix. The battery that was in the Arc got a bit crushed. The amazing thing is that the Fenix was able to fire on the crushed battery from the Arc, and no matter how many times I tried, I could not get the Arc to fire from that battery.

    The most important thing is that both lights survived! The Fenix took more physical damage than the Arc, but the Arc crushed the battery. Now, I used to take my EDC Arc and throw it against walls, floors, etc to prove its durability and I have never had a crushed battery so it does take a lot of force to make that happen. Like I said, I have abused my original Arc and I have never been able to make it fail!



    The aftermath:

    The lights kept rolling around and not staying put where I wanted them to, so I propped them up with my battered original Arc AAA. The two lights that are side by side are the ones that got dropped.



    As you can see, the Fenix has a chunk missing from the tail as well as a few other minor gashes. The Arc almost looks perfect! It has a couple of VERY small chips in the anodizing on the head, but otherwise it is perfect!

    I am going to have to buy an Arc GS now to really compare them! I have a feeling that I will prefer the Arc simply because of form factor – it is a lot smaller than the Fenix.

    One valid point is that my test was done with an OLD Arc AAA. I am assuming that the new Arc’s are at least as sturdy if not more sturdy than the old ones that I have. Both lights are incredibly well made though, and I have to congratulate both Fenix and Peter (Arc) for making terrific products.

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    Default Re: Arc AAA and Fenix E01 5 Story Drop Test

    WOW! That is pretty wild!

    Can't believe you chucked mit llights off a balcony! Kudos for the testing!


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    Yup, im always amazed at how small the arc is. I traded an E01 and gave one away, now i myself dont have one.

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    I always scare people by throwing my E01 against a wall to show how much better they are than mag's

    Good to see it'll withstand a 5 story drop just in case I ever get into a pi**ing contest with it!!

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    so your arc just sits there? thats not right.

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    Usually when these flashlights fall from 5 stories the person they fell with is in no condition to do relative comparisons of their continued usability. I commend you for surviving their fall.

    Cool test, though. Too bad you didn't have someone capturing video from a couple of different angles. Ya could'a YouTubed it.

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    People remember the quality long after they’ve forgotten the price. Unless you try to rip them off.

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    This whole crazy test started with a friend of mine accidentally dropping his cell phone off our balcony. It was a small Nokia flip phone. It fell out of his pocket and straight off the edge. The phone actually survived (not in great shape, but it does function).

    I figured that if a phone could survive, then surely these lights should as well. I knew that the Arc would, and I wanted to see if the Fenix could keep up.

    AS for the ARC I dropped, no it isn’t really sitting there unused, it is sometimes in my car and sometimes inside the apartment. It just didn’t see any real abuse so it looked like new.
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    Default Re: Arc AAA and Fenix E01 5 Story Drop Test

    Just a thought about the batteries, could the one in arc got dented on either + or - side enough so arc can't make contact, while e01 has longer contact points and is able to?

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    First, Thanks for doing that test!

    But, I'm sorry, I just don't get people saying that the Fenix EO1 is "so much bigger" then the ARC. I have both (actually about (6) ARC's to (1) Fenix EO1, but the ARC's will soon be going O.O.S. (Out Of Service) and will be replaced with EO1's). And hearing the ARC did not work after the fall and the Fenix did was the "icing" on the cake for me.

    I just DO NOT find them all that much bigger. Yes, they are a BIT bigger, but only a bit. Stepping off my soapbox now. My .02 FWIW YMMV

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    I don't know I'm new!!
    He he..

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    Thanks for this highly entertaining torture test!

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    Fun!

    For some reason this makes me think of the "Will it blend?" series on YouTube. Anyone care to answer that question with either of these lights? I pity the blender.

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    More proof the E01 is tough. How does the finish of the E01 hold up after being carried & beat up for a while on a keychain? Does one color hold up better than the others?
    Last edited by sabre7; 07-22-2008 at 03:29 PM.

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    Default Re: Arc AAA and Fenix E01 5 Story Drop Test

    Quote Originally Posted by sabre7 View Post
    More proof the E01 is tough. How does the finish of the E01 hold up after being carried & beat up for a while on a keychain? Does one color hold up better than the others?
    Mine (Blue) has been in my pocket attached to my main keychain since I got it in May. I also have a separate set of keys in my pocket as well, so lots of opportunity for contact.

    Finish is still in great shape, no dings or nicks. The biggest problem I have is pocket lint dust around the LED.

    My wifes (purple) has been in her purse for the same amount of time and has a ding in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jzmtl View Post
    Just a thought about the batteries, could the one in arc got dented on either + or - side enough so arc can't make contact, while e01 has longer contact points and is able to?
    I looked at the battery and the negative side got dented, so that explains why the Fenix could still use it (the spring in the battery compartment of the Fenix is able to keep contact with the battery).

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    Default Re: Arc AAA and Fenix E01 5 Story Drop Test

    Quote Originally Posted by jbviau View Post
    Fun!

    For some reason this makes me think of the "Will it blend?" series on YouTube. Anyone care to answer that question with either of these lights? I pity the blender.
    I was thinking Mardukes "will it crush" series.... poor little hydraulic press.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kramer5150 View Post
    I was thinking Mardukes "will it crush" series.... poor little hydraulic press.
    Pneumatic actually, but the end result is the same.

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    A very squashed light!

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    Someone call child abuse and get this guy to stop abusing his children!!


    Just kidding.. Good torture test man
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    Default Re: Arc AAA and Fenix E01 5 Story Drop Test

    With my OCD I could never do that test. But cool test and report.

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    Default Re: Arc AAA and Fenix E01 5 Story Drop Test

    will it crush? certainly..

    Quote Originally Posted by iSleep View Post
    Yesterday, My ARC-P had died in violent accident.

    It was kind of late at night (around 7PM). My friends and I were working on our final year project. We're testing which metal would suit our needs for our project. So we set up the machinery in the school workshop, and started with our tests.

    "AHH ~ What a delight !"... I had my Arc with me while setting up the machines for the next material - 1/2 cubic inches solid titanium (6Al-4V) cube ... It was kind of dark inside the test chamber, and with my T1 way too heavy and bright for close up work, I grabbed the Arc-P from my keyring and started pointing it around the area ... it lit the place up nicely ... This nice and peaceful moment while appreciating the light will take a sudden downturn for the worst in the next 30 seconds ...

    The machine somehow shorted out on us when I was just about to give the all clear . The machine had somehow started itself without the test subject in place. With the 2 large menacing slabs of metal about to crush my hands, one of the fellows pulled me out just in time before that happened. The sound of the 2 slabs clashing head-on had left me with my ears ringing, and I was so shocked that I whited out for a moment.

    The next thing I know, was that the arc wasn't in my hands anymore ... It was in the base of the machine, totally of non-resemblence to what it used to be. The workshop technician had cleaned the "corpse" off the base, with some brute force and chemical agents ... I was still in shock then, so I wasn't able to take a picture of the entire scene and the aftermath of the episode ...

    When I finally snapped out of it, I was pained to find my Arc-P totally destroyed. It had been with me for less than a week, but I have totally grown acustomed to its prescense. The light was small and barely noticable, until it was needed. The nice brightness is enough for lighting up the dark reasonably. I must say that this light will be greatly missed and it is a great lost from my EDC set-up. May this light rest in peace in the flashlight heaven.
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    Default Re: Arc AAA and Fenix E01 5 Story Drop Test

    Hurling torches off a porch.... what will they think of next!!! LOL


    Love this test!! Thank you for doing it and taking one for the team with your lights

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    You know this is one of the things I love about CPF - the willingness to quite literally take one for the team!

    Bravo!

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    interesting...iirc arcs arent spring loaded so it isn't capable of damping the impact

    Manzerick, try a slingshot if theres no vertical space to try this in

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    Default Re: Arc AAA and Fenix E01 5 Story Drop Test

    Fenix may be reliable on this drop but to be truly scientific, i suggest you do the drop test 100X and take the average results for repeatability.

    Oh btw, i dont have an Arc, if not I will surely(NOT) be lending mine for your test.
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    I offered to feature an Arc in my Will it Crush series at one time, but they declined.

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    Hello all. This is my first post so forgive me if I do not sound so knowledgable (cause I know very little about all this stuff...so far). From the pictures it looks like the E01 dropped on its tail and the ARC landed on the head. Is it possible that this what caused the difference in the test??? It seems to me that the tail would be much more likely to withstand an impact like that than landing on ones head...

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    I think its awsome when folks throw perfectly good lights off of 5 story balcony's! thanks for the sacrafice. I have 5 E01's, and they have been a great value for the quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marduke View Post
    I offered to feature an Arc in my Will it Crush series at one time, but they declined.
    That's funny on two or three levels...

    But realistically, it seems like they would welcome the test. And what would have been the huge loss to them to send you one Arc for testing? Fear that it might actually crush at 40,000 lbs or something?

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