wow!

[mdocod]

WELCOME TO CPF!!!!

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Expect about 1/2-1/3 the normal runtime you would get with CR123 primaries while using those RCR123s from glowgadgets. The TK10 can technically run on a pair of 3.7V RCR123s and will have better runtime than any of the supposed "3.0V" rechargeable cells, but even better, would be a light that just runs on a single 18650, with double the watt-hour capacity of a pair of RCR123s, and about the same size. (the TK10 is not compatible with an 18650)

Don't fret, this will not be your last purchase, you are here now, the only hope is to lock away your wallet, burn your credit cards, (don't just cut em up, cuz you'll be piecing them back together to read the numbers for an internet order!)... There will almost certainly be more purchases in the future in the name of portable illumination. You will be absolutely blown away by the TK10 and really start to get interested at that point!

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Oh... BTW: the cells in that kit are 3.7V cells with voltage reducing diodes on the output, the charger is set to terminate the charge at around 4.4-4.5V to overcome the voltage shunting device in reverse, normal "3.7V" without that voltage regulating diode need to be terminated at 4.20V, so if you ever do buy any other lithium ion cells in the future that are "3.7V" type, do NOT charge them in the charger that came with your "3.0V" cells, they could explode.

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Eric

PS: to CPF: Please stop defaulting to the recommendation of CR123 powered fenix lights. It's not a productive recommendation considering that almost everyone who is recommended one here, goes looking for a rechargeable solution for it. Wolf-Eyes, DereeLight, LumaPower, JetBeam, Pila, Tiablo.... the list grows bigger all the time, we have plenty of options for 18650 powered lights, even Fenix jumped on the bandwagon with the TK11. You know how much it hurts having to tell someone "sorry, your rechargeable options all stink!"?

[crazee horse]

WELCOME TO CPF!!!!

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Expect about 1/2-1/3 the normal runtime you would get with CR123 primaries while using those RCR123s from glowgadgets. The TK10 can technically run on a pair of 3.7V RCR123s and will have better runtime than any of the supposed "3.0V" rechargeable cells, but even better, would be a light that just runs on a single 18650, with double the watt-hour capacity of a pair of RCR123s, and about the same size. (the TK10 is not compatible with an 18650)

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Oh... BTW: the cells in that kit are 3.7V cells with voltage reducing diodes on the output, the charger is set to terminate the charge at around 4.4-4.5V to overcome the voltage shunting device in reverse, normal "3.7V" without that voltage regulating diode need to be terminated at 4.20V, so if you ever do buy any other lithium ion cells in the future that are "3.7V" type, do NOT charge them in the charger that came with your "3.0V" cells, they could explode.

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Eric

PS: to CPF: Please stop defaulting to the recommendation of CR123 powered fenix lights. It's not a productive recommendation considering that almost everyone who is recommended one here, goes looking for a rechargeable solution for it. Wolf-Eyes, DereeLight, LumaPower, JetBeam, Pila, Tiablo.... the list grows bigger all the time, we have plenty of options for 18650 powered lights, even Fenix jumped on the bandwagon with the TK11. You know how much it hurts having to tell someone "sorry, your rechargeable options all stink!"?

help? im a total newb and acronyms and stuff are lost on me. "ROP"?

also a half to a third the run times with the batteries i bought? what are the pro"s and con"s with these batteries? they cant be that bad can they? do i need to run them down totally flat before re-charging etc etc etc?
ha, confused? me? you bet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just read this http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=201375 whilst im sure it explains everything, i really need beginners talk!

[Gunner12]

ROP is a hotwire mod for a Maglite. It stands for Roar of Pelican because the bulb being overdriven is made by Pelican. It uses The Pelican Big D bulbs over driven by 6 rechargeable NiMh batteries or 2 Li-ion batteries. Both have to be able to take the 4+ amp of draw.

Don't run Li-ion batteries flat before recharging them, that could damage the batteries. They are usually of a higher voltage then normal CR123s but because they are rechargeable, they have less capacity then a CR123 battery.

There is an electronics subforum where you can check and ask questions.

[hyperloop]

Im a noob to the world of light too, but trust me on one thing, a lot of light can come from a small form factor. I'd say that for your purposes, it would be a 3D/4D Mag that you would like for dual purposes of light and self defence. Why not just get one of those (either 3D/4D) and get a stock drop in from Terralux or one of the other suppliers.

THEN get a TK10/TK11 or a Jetbeam or an Ultrafire C3 (which is one of the more affordable 2 x AA lights around and was also the very first light i got, 1 x AA with an extension tube).

Your journey has just begun

[crazee horse]

too late! lol, ive just checked my email inbox, and my TK10 shall be here tomorrow, in time for a long scary walk through the allegedly haunted woods near my house ,tomorrow night with my 15 yr old daughter. she likes creepy things and enjoys being scared! i"ll also be taking my sony video camera with infra red shot. hopefully we"ll see possibly a badger or something, but it"ll be a lot of fun regardless!

the defence thing aint a major issue, im far from small, it would just be hand in case of an "emergency"!

[yellow]

now, 1st of all, get "protected" batteries when using Li-Ion rechargeables.
When not using these, they wont survive Your 1st usage
(for the beginner, and almost for the pro, noticeing that the voltage is down below safe levels. And when down under the ABSOLUTE MAX of 2.5 Volts/cell the Li-Ion cell is damaged ultimatively.
"protected" cells have a circuit inside that stops discharging when they get too low)

dont run Li-Ion cells down; they also dont have to be discharged before being charged.

[triggerhorse]

Hi --from Chilliwack, BC., Canada. I bought a Fenix T1 when it first came out for sale. I bought a TENERGY Li-ion RCR123A Charger with it. It came with 4 Tenergy batteries. The batteries are still recharging great and last about the same time as ever on "bright". I love this light. I like the "white light". I also bought a PilaGL4 because I thought it might be brighter, but I really wish now that I had not wasted my money on it.(for sale too) What light could be better than the T1? (Smaller light maybe).

[mousehunter]

There is a tool for every job - and if not someone will design one.

I understand that fenix makes a good light - and some would consider it a perfect dog walking light. I don't own a fenix, but have several cr123 led lights that are small, bright and nice (also have some AA led mods, as well as CR2 led lights). Today an innova is in my pocket, and a surefire is sitting in my briefcase - usually just carry the surefire.

That said, there is a purpose for the big D cell mag lights - sometimes a club looks conspicuous and a flashlight does not. If you want ILLUMINATION, you can light up a baseball field with some of the Mag Mods as well.

I don't burn my 5D mag everyday, so have not led'ed yet (kept it classic, its about 20 years old now) - but it is my go to club when the situation warrants.

[SilentK]

i would say a mag 85 would be nice if you could spend a bit more, but if i were you, i would go with a ROP

[Al Combs]

well WOW! im blown away, ive recently been looking for a powerful flashlight for walking the dog in non lite areas and have looked around a few shops etc but so far no one really knew what they where talking about. i thought i"d give the web a look to find a little more in depth info and i found this place lol. im quite shocked.
its torch city. i never knew there was so much to know.
this will be my first decent torch, and was looking to spend arond £50 ($100) ish to start with. have been looking at Maglites as i thought they were the best, still what do i know? from what ive read too the led"s arent touching the krypton bulbs either, can someone condense all this for me and point me in the right direction? in an ideal world i"d have a 3-4d flashlight (big enough for defence in the woods should i need it!) with a good strong bright beam and a good few hours burn time. with a possible view to upgrading/modifying?
go on slate me

being a typical bloke this is going to be just the start for me lol

Welcome to CPF. And speaking of welcome, The Welcome Mat is a good place to have a look. Good luck with your new torch!

[crazee horse]

well its here! recieved in under 24hrs from glow gadgets, very impressed. initially a very handsome purposeful looking thing
not really had a chance to see how bright it is yet as its very light outside and indoors, shocked at the size of it, very small but again not a bad thing as its small enough to be in your pocket on most dog walks etc. will give it a thorough test tonight!
my only dissapointment is the batteries are very low mah! 600! (WAMA RCR123A 3V 600mAH) or have i got this wrong? is low mah good? or bad? i thought the higher meant for longer running.

[Gunner12]

Higher mAh(capacity) means more runtime. Most people here would recommend AW's RCR123s and IIRC, they are 800 mAh which is oretty good(CR123s are 1300-1500 mAh at 3v).

[LukeA]

No RCR123 truly has more than 600/650mAh, regardless of what the label says.

[Gunner12]

No RCR123 truly has more than 600/650mAh, regardless of what the label says.

That does seem to be right though.

I hope you like the light crazee horse.

[crazee horse]

initially like i said previously, it wasnt very bright round the house in the day you know the usual stuff trying to find darkness lol under the stairs (cupboard) and other places the garage an stuff, but come the evening, 10pm when it was proper dark, i was well impressed. very long throw, and very bright. its feels well built too. cant quite understand the big chunky collar thing? is this a gun mount type of thing? my only minor niggle was when i replaced the chunky collar with the gold item in the tool kit, it doesnt screw right up tight when you put the end cap on. it needs to be a hairs width wider. nothing that some thread lock wont sort out though.
no doubt this is my start of a "male" addiction. im gadget mad as it is. could probably do with another smaller torch, and a mental full on super torch............................just in case!

[mdocod]

OH YEA! You're going to be a flashaholic, no doubt! WELCOME TO THE END OF YOUR LIFE AS YOU KNOW IT AND WELCOME TO A LIFE OF FLASHLIGHTS! mUhAhAhA..MUAHAHHAH

[Trashman]

could probably do with another smaller torch, and a mental full on super torch............................just in case!

That's the spirit!

[Jay R]

Bring it along to a 'Meet'. We had one in the South recently and are taking about aranging another. Think your Fenix is bright, you should see what some people have. Where abouts are you ?

[Cheesy]

Then get over to Sainsburys and get a twin pack of Duracell CR123 (On offer for £3.30)

glowgadgets.co.uk have boxes of 10 Panasonic for £11.


Kev.

[crazee horse]

glowgadgets.co.uk have boxes of 10 Panasonic for £11.


Kev.

just have done with it and buy re-chargables!

[crazee horse]

Bring it along to a 'Meet'. We had one in the South recently and are taking about aranging another. Think your Fenix is bright, you should see what some people have. Where abouts are you ?

im in Portsmouth.

[zipplet]

Meets in the UK eh?

[crazee horse]

lol, yeah, i have two torches and know where the batteries go lol thats about it.

[thebigjim]

lol, yeah, i have two torches and know where the batteries go lol thats about it.

Play up Pompey! Im from portsmouth too! Well West Sussex now, but portsmouth for 26 years!

[yellow]

"buy both"

[crazee horse]

Play up Pompey! Im from portsmouth too! Well West Sussex now, but portsmouth for 26 years!

ROFL, im actually from Plymouth but have been up here for 9 years-ish. if we have a meet this means it could be at a pub! happy days!

[unique]

I just took my TK10 out for a test around my area. I forgot how bright this thing was. It blew me away like the first day I got it! It really is worth spending the money on these. They are very very bright, and so fun to show off when someone else pulls out a cheap torch

[Gunner12]

As a response to you other thread, the Ultrafire C1 is available on Dealextreme. Here's the link. Many eBay lights with the current gen LEDs can be found on DX for a lower price.

DX is a good place to find budget lights and there are many good ones on there. But there are also bad ones so I'd suggest checking for reviews of a certain light. Shipping from there is also slow.