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    Tonight I got to test my Vector Power On Board HID to its full potential, and I was blown away by it.

    I shined it across a huge dark field at least 1/2 a mile long and it put a very bright spot on the trees at the end. I have also been using it a lot lately and shined it at some trees that were at least 3/4 of a mile away and amazingly it lit them up very brightly. When I left it on pointing up into the sky I could see its huge beam from the other side of my cul-de-sac, and when I have done this recently in the past it put a bright spot on some mid-level clouds. I also shined it up on a sky scraper nearly as tall as the Empire State building (it was around 1000 feet tall) and it easily lit the top of it.

    I just wanted to say I am VERY happy and satisfied with the POB, it seemed Maxabeam like to me putting a small spot those trees 1/2 a mile away. I could not be happier with a powerful HID, and after seeing how it performs have no desire to buy another large HID spotlight.

    What this has affirmed for me is that my next HID will definitely be the N30, as I already have a big heavy HID spotlight with a laser like beam and laser like throw. I really want to get the N30 as I think I will really enjoy its 4200K color temp and having so much power in such a small package.

    Thanks CPF for making me aware of such great lights!
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    Default Re: New found respect for the Power On Board HID

    Don't buy the N30 yet... wait for the L35 to be out in about 5 weeks...
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    LOL - Blue.

    Your the "MEGA FLASHAHOLIC"

    I too have found some extra love for an old light, my 10mcp. I wired it up to run both filaments (100w/130w) at once. ~230w

    So no Mega Illum for you?

    But the L35 should make up for it.



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    The Power On Board HID is doing just great for me in terms of throw, so I think I will really enjoy the smaller N30.

    I'd love to have the L35, but it is out of my price range ($100-$200).



    LOL - Blue.

    Your the "MEGA FLASHAHOLIC"
    Wish I could see your awesome lights in person.

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    Im in the process of vamping up lots of my lights, BIG THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

    I'm entering "no mans land" with my wallet.

    Maybe I should get a POB.



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    Nana Re: New found respect for the Power On Board HID

    forgot to add, sometimes I go out on a really clear, cold night & shine some of my lights around. I love how much brighter they appear on really clear nights. IMO thats what makes them far more impressive.

    LOL, I got this neighbor across the road who races to his curtains to take a peak in my back yard to see it lite up like 1000000000lux

    He must say "**** when is enough, enough?"



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    This is making me want a HID more and more.

    The N30 should make a good companion with the POB. IIRC it is smaller and floodier so it should work well with a larger and throwier light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashanator 500mW View Post

    Im in the process of vamping up lots of my lights, BIG THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

    I'm entering "no mans land" with my wallet.

    Maybe I should get a POB.
    The POB is a great light! It is a monster laser like thrower and I think it might be a good smaller companion to your Mega Illuminator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashanator 500mW View Post
    forgot to add, sometimes I go out on a really clear, cold night & shine some of my lights around. I love how much brighter they appear on really clear nights. IMO thats what makes them far more impressive.

    LOL, I got this neighbor across the road who races to his curtains to take a peak in my back yard to see it lite up like 1000000000lux

    He must say "**** when is enough, enough?"
    Your amazing 1000W Thor and VT110 must be quite unbelievable sights!

    I agree with you about clear nights, when it is hazy or foggy it prevents the lights from throwing as far and makes it hard to see what they are lighting up. Last night was a clear night so the POB looker really amazing.


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    This is making me want a HID more and more.

    The N30 should make a good companion with the POB. IIRC it is smaller and floodier so it should work well with a larger and throwier light.
    Yes I agree it will be a perfect companion for the POB. I think you would really ba amazed by a POB and should get one. You can get them on Ebay for under $50.

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    Default Re: New found respect for the Power On Board HID

    Does anyone if a POB would throw further than a N30 or the new L35?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackICE View Post
    Does anyone if a POB would throw further than a N30 or the new L35?
    The POB has a large 6'' reflector and the N30 has a much smaller 4'' reflector, so the N30 wouldn't have the laser like throw of the POB.

    I am curious about the L35's reflector size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBeam22 View Post
    Yes I agree it will be a perfect companion for the POB. I think you would really ba amazed by a POB and should get one. You can get them on Ebay for under $50.
    The problem is convincing my parents that I need such a large and powerful light. I should really get myself a job.

    According to this thread, the L35 has less throw and output then the N30. Are you guys talking about the Mega Illuminator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner12 View Post
    The problem is convincing my parents that I need such a large and powerful light. I should really get myself a job.

    According to this thread, the L35 has less throw and output then the N30. Are you guys talking about the Mega Illuminator?
    Thank you for the link, that was a very interesting thread! I am surprised that the 6000K sam's POB outperformed the 4200K Illuminator in throw/hotspot brightness. This makes me like my POB even more.

    The Mega Illuminator/Harbor Freight/Costco HID is larger than the POB and would have even more throw/hotspot brightness than the POB.

    I seem to have an exceptionally well focused POB as its beam is more like that of the Costco HID. Some excellent beamshots of the Costco Here, Here, and Here. EDIT: My POB's beam looks about the same as the "Costco okay focus" in THIS thread.

    Thank you Mtbkndad for these amazing shootouts!

    Patriot36 if you are reading this thread I would be very interested to know how your best focused POB compares to your Costco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner12 View Post
    The problem is convincing my parents that I need such a large and powerful light. I should really get myself a job.

    According to this thread, the L35 has less throw and output then the N30. Are you guys talking about the Mega Illuminator?

    That was just a sample difference between units, the N30 with a well broken in bulb and a Prototype L35 not up to its full potential yet. Essentially they should be about equal, with a substantial run-time advantage going the the L35. It will be lighter also of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBeam22 View Post

    Patriot36 if you are reading this thread I would be very interested to know how your best focused POB compares to your Costco.


    It compares ok, the POB doesn't throw as well but it does well for a 6" reflector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot36 View Post
    It compares ok, the POB doesn't throw as well but it does well for a 6" reflector.
    Thanks!

    I agree it does very well for only 6" giving such a laser like beam and great throw.

    I can't wait to get my N30 as soon as I have the funds for it.

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    Default Re: New found respect for the Power On Board HID

    You can get a 4200k bulb for the POB's for not too much coin from ebay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post
    You can get a 4200k bulb for the POB's for not too much coin from ebay.
    Thank you, but I prefer the 6000K in my POB as I like it for its laser like throw.
    I will like to have the 4200K N30 since it outputs more lumens per watt than 6000K and it is smaller with added LED's.

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    Where can I get the Costco one? Can't find it online or my local B&M. Is it an HID?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMF View Post
    Where can I get the Costco one? Can't find it online or my local B&M. Is it an HID?
    Yes it is an HID, with the exact same wattage and color temperature bulb as the POB. You can usually get it here but it appears they are sold out.

    The Vector Power On Board HID throws like a laser and would also be a great choice, and would blow you away if you haven't seen an HID before. You can get it on Ebay.

    EDIT: There is also the upgraded version of the Costco HID called the Mega Illuminator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBeam22 View Post
    Thank you, but I prefer the 6000K in my POB as I like it for its laser like throw.
    I will like to have the 4200K N30 since it outputs more lumens per watt than 6000K and it is smaller with added LED's.
    Why would the color temperature of the bulb change it's laser like throw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stereodude View Post
    Why would the color temperature of the bulb change it's laser like throw?
    Sorry for the confusion, I should have been more clear. According to thread Gunner12 gave a link to the 6000K "Sam's" (Which I believe is the POB) had more throw/hotspot brightness than the 4200K version. Maybe someone else could clarify for me if the Sam's POB really does have more throw than the 4200K Amondotech 3152 Illuminator?

    I really like the blue 6000K beam of my POB because it is more visible in the night sky than lower color temperature beams. I also like the look of the blue beam.

    I like the idea of the N30's 4200K bulb as I would want maximum light output from a small light like that.
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    All this POB talk got me so excited I decided to take both of my POB's in the back yard and light up the sky.

    I have had my eye on the N30 also but will no doubt wait for the L35 and a couple of you guys to buy one first before I decide which one.

    Did I mention the twin POB beams gave a nice illuminating experience of the remnants of the hurricane......

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueBeam22 View Post

    I really like the blue 6000K beam of my POB because it is more visible in the night sky than lower color temperature beams. I also like the look of the blue beam.
    Ah ha! I always knew that you were a closet bluebeam fan!


    Seriously though, that was just one test between the POB & A3152. It doesn't prove anything other than one particular POB possibly throwing a little better than one particular A3152. There are sample variations between all of these lights and some combination of parts add up to produce a light with a little more performance. Bulb break in time alone can account for hundreds of lumens and variations in color temperature. Since these Chinese reflectors vary so much in quality & texture, it probably had more to do with that than anything else. I have little doubt that a 4300K bulb in your POB would be a noticable improvement if you chose to change it out.

    Just out of curiosity, how long have you owned your POB now? I thought that you had been comparing it to other lights since you joined the forum and you were always under impressed with it before, iirc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SafetyBob View Post
    All this POB talk got me so excited I decided to take both of my POB's in the back yard and light up the sky.

    I have had my eye on the N30 also but will no doubt wait for the L35 and a couple of you guys to buy one first before I decide which one.

    Did I mention the twin POB beams gave a nice illuminating experience of the remnants of the hurricane......

    Bob E.
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    Ah ha! I always knew that you were a closet bluebeam fan!


    Seriously though, that was just one test between the POB & A3152. It doesn't prove anything other than one particular POB possibly throwing a little better than one particular A3152. There are sample variations between all of these lights and some combination of parts add up to produce a light with a little more performance. Bulb break in time alone can account for hundreds of lumens and variations in color temperature. Since these Chinese reflectors vary so much in quality & texture, it probably had more to do with that than anything else. I have little doubt that a 4300K bulb in your POB would be a noticable improvement if you chose to change it out.
    I have noticed that my POB has gotten brighter and I think like you stated it is bulb break-in. Maybe the POB in that comparison was better focused than that particular 3152 since as we know a light not being in perfect focus can drastically reduce a light's throw/beam quality. Like you said maybe that 3152 had a poor quality reflector.

    Just out of curiosity, how long have you owned your POB now?
    I got my POB like a few weeks before I joined CPF so I have had it for nearly 6 months now. It has been working just great with the Pro's Favorite's battery and has had no problems since then.


    I thought that you had been comparing it to other lights since you joined the forum and you were always under impressed with it before, iirc.
    I like my POB a lot more than I used to and have found what a truly amazing and awesome light it is. I have always compared it to my two huge Incans (15mcp Thor and Pro's Favorite) and didn't like it as much since they have brighter hotspots and somewhat more throw. My opinion has changed and I now favor the POB.
    when I was lighting up those trees nearly a mile away with it I noticed how its bluish white beam is so visible compared to the Incans, and I was so blown away at how it brightly illuminated them!

    By the way, I know I am going to love the N30 and I am absolutely dead set on getting it. When I get it (in about a month) I will tell you how I like it.
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    That makes sense. I'm glad that you're enjoying it more now.

    I know you'll like the N30 much better though because of its size, weight and beam color. When you go for a walk in the woods with the N30 you can actually enjoy it without thinking about the weight of a heavy SLA.

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    Default Re: New found respect for the Power On Board HID

    be sure to post some beamshots



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    regarding your "6000k better for laser like throw" view, IMO thats just not possible at ALL!!!!!

    3 of my HID lights (Meg Illum) included, all throw far better with ~4300K bulbs over 6000K.




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