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    Default Sign-up thread for the MillerMods Cree Arc AAA 2-stage (Part 3)

    All lights are now being built with the R2 binned Cree XR-E's I have WC and WG tints.

    Here are some shot's comparing an LOP SE on high w/ an SV1H Lux I (Left), the Cree monster at 1 watt or ~320mA (center), and one of my Luxeon Arc mods w/ an SWOH Lux I driven at 1.5 watts or 470mA (right). The lights are about 1 foot from the wall.


    Both using freshly charged NiMH Rayovac Hybrid cells:

    Arc Cree (P3-WG) on high (3/4 watt, 800mA draw from the cell) left, Fenix L0D CE on high right.


    Arc Cree (P3-WG) on high (3/4 watt, 800mA draw from the cell) left, Fenix L0D CE on low right.



    Arc Cree (P3-WG) on high (3/4 watt, 800mA draw from the cell) left, Fenix L0D CE on medium right.



    Arc Cree (P3-WG) on low (50mA drive to the Cree) left, Fenix L0D CE on high right.



    BTW, I think the WG has a nasty greenish tint to it. It's the only one I have on hand that's assembled.

    Here's some photo's of my first trial runs.
    LOP SE on high (stock driver w/ an SV1H Lux I) vs. Arc AAA head w/ Cree XR-E (P3 brightness). The lights are about 6 feet from the wall.

    Arc Cree @ 180mA

    Arc Cree @ 240mA

    Arc Cree @ 350mA




    Here are the options for the high setting and approximations for the Cree X-RE and my driver output on high:

    3/4 watt = ~240mA drive 50-70 minutes runtime to 75% intial brightness
    1 watt = ~320mA drive 30-50 minutes runtime to 75% intial brightness (This power level can be run continous but will get fairly warm.)
    1.25 watt = ~390mA drive 25-35 minutes runtime to 75% intial brightness (This power level can be run continous but will get warmer than the 1 watt.)
    1.5 watt = ~480mA drive 15-25 minutes runtime to 75% intial brightness (It's best not to have the 1.5 watter on for more than a few minutes at a time. It can get hot.)

    * Runtimes will vary because of both the temperature of the light and capacity and quality of the NIMH cell used.
    * All lights are now being built with the R2 binned Cree XR-E's I have WC and WG tints now.

    With the R2 bin the output estimates go as follows depending on Vf and other factors:

    3/4 watt ~240mA ~75-90 lumens
    1 watt ~320mA ~95-110 lumens
    1.25 watt ~390mA ~115-125 lumens
    1.5 watt ~480mA ~130-145 lumens

    Options for low level output are 25mA, 50mA, or 75mA drive.

    Runtimes on LOW power for all models (tested using a 900mA NIMH cell):

    25mA drive = 7 hrs @ ~6 lumens, 50mA drive = 4 hrs @ ~12 lumens, 75mA drive = 2.5 @ ~22 lumens.

    The price is $130 with 2 stages and $120 with one stage for a complete head and body this price includes the R2 WC or WG. The head by itself will be $15 less. If you have a Cree you want to send to me for use in your mod, subtract $10.

    Parabolic cut and polished reflector are standard and the only available options for the reflector for this version of the Arc AAA mod.

    Shipping costs are $5 for Priority w/ delivery CN, $2 for First Class w/ delivery CN, and $5 for international airmail shipping
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    Default Re: Sign-up thread for the MillerMods Cree Arc AAA 2-stage (Part 3)

    And Current list, cancellations and non-respondants removed. Any errors, please let me know.
    THANKS,
    Greg

    1 FlashInThePan 50, 1.50, P4-WH (confirmed) Possibly High CRI emitter
    2 coyote 25, 1.50, R2-WC bin in for two units
    3
    russtang Q5 or highest bin with .75 high and 25ma low (confirmed) And a second one on the second list .
    4 baylisstic 25, 1.25, Q5/R2
    5 BeamJunkie 50, 1.5, Q5/R2-WD or highest bin available (head only) Cancelled
    6 gjg 50, 1.50, R2 Warm Tint - WG or WH
    7 iocheretyanny 50, 1.25, Q4 "Floody"
    8 Luff 50, 1.00 Q4
    9 Scottiver 2 lights both 2 stage 50, 1.25 watts (one head and one complete), will decide on emitter later
    10 mcrich 50, 1.25, Will probably wait to get an R bin depending on if the price structure or options have changed.
    11 MrMimizu 50, 1.25, Q5+
    12 ydna 50, 1.25, Q4 WH
    13 drews1 50, 1.00, Q5+
    14 Codeman 25, 1.50, Q4 or better
    15 LouRoy for 2, 50, 0.75, and 50, 1.25, Q4WH
    16 UncleFester 25mA Low, 1.5W High, Highest flux bin available R(x). Tint not critical.
    17 LEDninja 50, 0.75, Q4 WH
    18 lightrod 50, 1.25, R2
    19 bwm R2 WD 3/4 watt, 25ma low Customer-supplied emitter
    20 CodeOfLight R2 WH, .25 and 1.25 watt
    21 Varriano 1.5 watt Best available
    22 daz 75, 1.25, Q4
    23 eltel999 50, 1.25, Q5
    24 Jeweler 75, 1.50, Q5/R2
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    5 BVH .50 & 1.50. Q4 Head only
    26 aiouem 75ma, 3/4 watt, R2 WH or WG
    27 blitzlicht65 50, 1.25, Q4 WH,and a 50, 1.25, R2 WC One in Black finish
    28 stevevh R2 with a low of 50mA and high of 1.5watt
    29 jefft 50, 1.25, Q5/R2
    30 DaveNagy 50, 1.50, Q5/R2
    31 mudman cj 50mA, 1.5W, will provide emitter
    32 frankr 25, 1.50, best bin available (R2 or better)
    33 Bright 25, 0.75, Brightest warm white bin available
    34 Per Arne latest brightness bin available with no artifacts Cancelled
    35 copykat 25, 1.50, Q4
    36 dansperry 50, 1.00, best bin available at build time
    37 kashmir 50, 1.25 (if available), best bin available at build time
    38 gefff 50, 1.25, Best Available
    39 rdh226 Will look at availability at build time (I have three unused Arc AAAs I can provide for upgrade.) + "Floody" Head only
    40 Daekar 25, 0.75, Q5/R2
    41 Ozniot 25mA /.75W With a warmer tint.
    42 wuhair 50, 1.00, Q5 (WD)
    42 GVS Lakers Latest bin - Will spec at build time
    43 zumac99 50, 0.75, Warm White Q5 or better
    44 Pyros 25/1.50 (or 25/1.25 if possible)
    45 yoyoteen 50, 0.75 Q4 WH complete light
    46 FRANKVZ 50, 1.00 q4 possibly Q5/R2
    47 err0r Q4 ,WD tint is preferred but will accept WH. Low drive 50 mA, high level 1W
    48 slaps 25, .75 best bin available - Q5/R2/R4 Cancelled
    49 THE_dAY 25, .75 best bin available - Q5/R2
    50 GregY cancelled
    51 Dizos 50, 1.25 Q5/R2 - best available
    52 dd61999 cancelled
    53 bfly 50, 1.00 best bin available
    54 crazyglockman Cancelled
    55 Illumination, 50mA,1.25w, Will specify bins
    56 alex in germany Q3 or if possible Q5 Cree, 2 Stage with 25mA for Low, and 3/4 watt =240mA for high
    57 gloworm Q3 (or better) 50ma low 1.0 Watt high
    58 craigberesh Q5 Cree or best bin available, 50ma, 1W
    59 colossus Q5 1.00 watt / 50 mA Old style light supplied?
    60 white light Q5 or better with 2 stage 50ma /1 watt
    61 MrBadExample 2 stage: 50/1.25, best available bin
    62 DarthChicken 25 low, 1.5 high, best available bin
    63 randyo , Q4 first, 50, 1.25, Q4 WH. Then another light with best available bin.
    64 MKLight 1 watt, P4, with the low at 25, and possibly a Q5/R2
    65 ptirmal premium bin 25ma/1.25A

    66 stang68 Single stage 3/4 watt. "Floody" Q4
    67 Crossroads cancelled
    68 Luff
    - Three more lights- all set at 1.25 for high with the best bin available. One will be set at .25 for low and the other two at .5 for low
    69 Moose - R2 two stage 3/4 watt 75mA
    70 kimo 25/1.5 Q4 WH or Q5, a second if available
    71 gjg Customer supplied light 75/1.5 R2 WG
    72 Sadsack 50/1.25 R2 WG tint Cancelled
    73 kaichu dento 25mA /.75W, warmest, floodiest available.
    74 hayhay 1.25/25 two stage with r2 (warm tint)
    75 ecallahan R2 with 50mA low, 1.0 watt high, prefer a slightly warmer (not green) tint CANCELLED
    76 steelbeach 50mA low, 1.0 watt high, head only
    77 deusexaethera ~10 lumens / 1.5 olive/natural color
    78 Olrac ?
    79 mike in minneapolis 50/1.0/WG
    80 Hawkeye5 R2 WG with 50mA low, 1.0 watt high.
    81 xcel730 R2-WC, 50ma, 3/4 Watt Cancelled
    82 Spence - Customer Supplied light - R2 - will decide levels
    Updated 6/6/09.
    gg
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    Default Seconds sale

    I have 3 WH Q4 heads for sale that did not turn out the way I had intended. The beam is "floody". They still have a hotspot but it is smaller than usual, there is no "donut" in the hotspot. I'm selling them with or without a body (-$15). I'm asking $100 with body. $5 shipping. Pictures coming soon. First come, first serve.
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    Default Re: Sign-up thread for the MillerMods Cree Arc AAA 2-stage (Part 3)

    i'll take one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stang68 View Post
    i'll take one.
    PM sent.
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    PM replied to and,

    Paypal Sent.

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    Default Re: Sign-up thread for the MillerMods Cree Arc AAA 2-stage (Part 3)

    gig, ummm... is the legend for the color code in your post
    Gray = Cancelled
    Blue = Pending
    Black= Future.
    ??
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    Default Re: Seconds sale

    Quote Originally Posted by MillerMods View Post
    I have 3 WH Q4 heads for sale that did not turn out the way I had intended. The beam is "floody". They still have a hotspot but it is smaller than usual, there is no "donut" in the hotspot. I'm selling them with or without a body (-$15). I'm asking $100 with body. $5 shipping. Pictures coming soon. First come, first serve.
    I'll take one (head only).

    Out of curiousity, one- or two-stage? What power level(s)?

    (Irrespective, I'll take one (head only)!)

    Send (PM/email) me PayPal info.

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    Hi,

    PM sent, changing order to:

    95 Bright 25, 0.75, Brightest warm white bin available

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    Default Re: Sign-up thread for the MillerMods Cree Arc AAA 2-stage (Part 3)

    Black= On Eric's build list

    No more blue or gray, the list was getting confusing. If you WERE on the original list but didn't have an opportunity to contact Eric or myself, please do so and we'll be glad to put you back on!
    Greg

    Quote Originally Posted by UncleFester View Post
    gig, ummm... is the legend for the color code in your post
    Gray = Cancelled
    Blue = Pending
    Black= Future.
    ??
    Last edited by gjg; 11-19-2008 at 07:20 PM.

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    Default Re: Sign-up thread for the MillerMods Cree Arc AAA 2-stage (Part 3)

    FlashInThePan, if you're out there let me know. Your PM box is full. I have a question for you.

    Thanks,
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    Default Re: Sign-up thread for the MillerMods Cree Arc AAA 2-stage (Part 3)

    I'll take the last Q4 Floody

    50, 1.25 please.

    with body.
    Last edited by iocheretyanny; 11-17-2008 at 06:29 PM. Reason: body

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    Default Re: Sign-up thread for the MillerMods Cree Arc AAA 2-stage (Part 3)

    Actually I have one more of the "floody" Q4's left. $105 shipped Priority or International Airmail.
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    Default Re: Sign-up thread for the MillerMods Cree Arc AAA 2-stage (Part 3)

    Hi,

    Do you have updated Brightness ratings for Q4,Q5,R2 bins?

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Sign-up thread for the MillerMods Cree Arc AAA 2-stage (Part 3)

    Quote Originally Posted by iocheretyanny View Post
    Hi,

    Do you have updated Brightness ratings for Q4,Q5,R2 bins?

    Thanks.
    I'll have to pull the binning data sheets soon and post that info.
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    Please update my listing, #146 to 2 stage: 50/1.25, best available

    Thanks

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    Default Re: Sign-up thread for the MillerMods Cree Arc AAA 2-stage (Part 3)

    I need to find a source for some WH tint highest bin available because I'm out. I had several mishaps with my small supply of WH's. Also, I now have enough funds to by the latest R2-WC and WG tint LEDs.

    Because of this I am going to start back at the top of the list. Thank you all for your understanding and patience as I get everything back on track again.

    Also you'll be glad to know that I have been able to build 10 lights in about a week. There will no longer be waiting forever to get your light. I'm doing prep work as I wait to receive more Cree's. I'm glad to be back at it and I truly appreciate everyone who has stuck with me and given me support and understanding.

    Thank You,
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    Hi Eric,
    As much as i hate to do this after such a long wait i need to pull out. I just cant justify the expense in the cuRrent climate. Good luck with the rest of the sales, i bet these will sell like hot cakes!
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    Default Re: Sign-up thread for the MillerMods Cree Arc AAA 2-stage (Part 3)

    Those who have received their lights, please post your impressions if you have the time. Good, bad, or indifferent reviews are all fine to post, I know people would like to hear some new reviews.

    Thanks,
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    It looks like mine will arrive sometime between tomorrow and Saturday.

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    Default Re: Sign-up thread for the MillerMods Cree Arc AAA 2-stage (Part 3)

    Hi MillerMods,

    Has anything changed in the driver setup? I remember you mentioning you had plans increasing the runtime of the lower levels.

    Thanks!

    EDIT: just noticed I moved up from 127 to 49

    Thats alot of people dropping out!
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    Default Re: Sign-up thread for the MillerMods Cree Arc AAA 2-stage (Part 3)

    Quote Originally Posted by THE_dAY View Post
    Hi MillerMods,

    Has anything changed in the driver setup? I remember you mentioning you had plans increasing the runtime of the lower levels.

    Thanks!

    EDIT: just noticed I moved up from 127 to 49

    Thats alot of people dropping out!
    I tried something different for the low level but the parts used ended up being too big.


    Quote Originally Posted by THE_dAY View Post
    Thats alot of people dropping out!
    A lot of folks have just never responded which could be for a number of reasons. I think the bottom line is that some are over the initial buzz and some are short on cash. And others gave up on me and some might even be mad at me for leaving everyone hanging for so long. I really hated dropping this project out of my life for awhile but much more important things became an issue for me. Once 20 or 30 people get their lights, I hope think will pick up again.
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    My 25/1.50 Q4-WH arrived today!

    I'm quite happy with the tint. Output of the Q4 in comparison to my earlier 25/1.5 Lux III TXOH is a quantum leap that is at least as large as the leap going from a stock Arc P to the MM/Lux III, probably more. Workmanship is pretty much perfect. The die is in perfect focus, as usual with MM's work. I'm glad to see that you've been able to put a parabolic surface on the newer heads, too. If I remember correctly, you had to use one of the older flat-sided heads for a parabolic cut in the Lux versions. I can't help but wish that some of the older, non-beveled Arc heads were still available, though.

    I got spoiled by my MM/Lux's perfect beam. I'd forgotten how squirrelly Cree's can be. I don't plan on using mine to hunt down white walls, so that is really more of a nit-picky, perfectionistic point than one of function. I just can't help but find a white wall when a new light arrives.

    If I had to pick between my MM's, the Cree would win hands down. Great job, MillerMod. It's good to see you back in form!

    Now I've just got to open the center hole in the foam donut up some so that the positive nib of a AA will fit inside. I can't wait to get my Valiant Concepts AA body matched up to this new head.
    Last edited by Codeman; 11-21-2008 at 03:43 AM.
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    Default Re: Sign-up thread for the MillerMods Cree Arc AAA 2-stage (Part 3)

    Codeman -
    The AA body may be a problem - you're probably going to have trouble getting the 2-stage switch to actuate properly since the AA-to-AAA adapter body has a spring at the negative end of the battery. I tried one of my Millermods Luxeon heads with the AA-to-AAA adapter body and the spring is a problem. Perhaps a bolt or spacer would work to give the battery a rigid surface?

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    I hadn't thought about that. Sigh...
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    Default Re: Sign-up thread for the MillerMods Cree Arc AAA 2-stage (Part 3)

    codeman: you said "...wish that some of the older, non-beveled Arc heads were still available, though..."

    if i remember correctly, the reason eric uses the square head is the older head works fine with Luxs, but not Crees.

    with Crees, the newer square head is required to handle the shape needed when cutting the reflector, to make the best beam possible.

    i think eric once said he preferred the old style too, but with Crees it just wasn't the best choice.

    i hope my memory is working here, but eric can correct me if needed.
    Last edited by coyote; 11-21-2008 at 09:47 AM. Reason: por typping skils

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    Yeah, the Cree's beam is not easy to tame. I just love the wide-open look of the older head after MM has put his mark on it.

    randyo, I'll be posting some info on the AA-AAA body later this weekend, probably in my 2006 MM/Lux review when I add the MM/Cree to it.

    I showed my new MM/Cree to several people at work. These are regular folks, non flashaholics. They've seen my HID's, my USL, and all of my McGizmo lights. None of those came close to getting the reaction of MM's latest creation. Everyone was in awe of this little gem as it went from low to high, and that was in a daytime work environment. I suspect that I would have been mobbed and robbed had they seen it in the dark.
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    I regretfully write this but I have to withdraw my name from the list. Unexpected bills and circumstances have arisen and I am unable to purchase on of these magnificent lights. At least someone will get theirs a bit sooner. I wish you all the best in building your beautiful lights, Patrick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MillerMods View Post
    I have 3 WH Q4 heads for sale that did not turn out the way I had intended. The beam is "floody". They still have a hotspot but it is smaller than usual, there is no "donut" in the hotspot. I'm selling them with or without a body (-$15). I'm asking $100 with body. $5 shipping. Pictures coming soon. First come, first serve.
    Quote Originally Posted by MillerMods View Post
    Actually I have one more of the "floody" Q4's left. $105 shipped Priority or International Airmail.

    If this last one is still available, I'm interested depending on the low/high configuration.

    Would you please let me know.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DimLite View Post
    If this last one is still available, I'm interested depending on the low/high configuration.

    Would you please let me know.

    Thanks.
    PM sent
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