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    Default What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    If you are going to replace
    a) SF P60 lamp with a 3rd party LED dropin
    b) SF body with a leefy body in order to use rechargable batteries
    c) SF tailcap with a 3rd party tailcap

    At the end of the replacement exercise, you had a Frankenstein light.

    On the same note, why buy an incan light when what you really want is an LED light?
    I find it very strange that some folks here buy SF 6P or 9P and convert them to a LED light with a 3rd party dropin. Or some folks who want to convert the main incan bulb in a SF A2 to LED, won't it be easier just to get a SF U2 instead.

    I believe it would be cheaper to use one of those "....fire" as host for modding purpose.
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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    Quote Originally Posted by firefly99 View Post
    If you are going to replace
    a) SF P60 lamp with a 3rd party LED dropin
    b) SF body with a leefy body in order to use rechargable batteries
    c) SF tailcap with a 3rd party tailcap

    At the end of the replacement exercise, you had a Frankenstein light.

    On the same note, why buy an incan light when what you really want is an LED light?
    I find it very strange that some folks here buy SF 6P or 9P and convert them to a LED light with a 3rd party dropin. Or some folks who want to convert the main incan bulb in a SF A2 to LED, won't it be easier just to get a SF U2 instead.

    I believe it would be cheaper to use one of those "....fire" as host for modding purpose.

    Cheaper yes, better no.

    Surefire is the best, hands down. Because I said.
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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot29 View Post
    Cheaper yes, better no.

    Surefire is the best, hands down. Because I said.
    You don't understand what he is saying. Why buy a 6p when your also going to get a LED Dropin, leef body, and a McGizmo tailcap
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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    Not everyone does that. Mine's stock, except for the emitter.

    Besides, you answered your own question: at the end of that process you actually have 2 lights...2 is better than 1 no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rotncore View Post
    Not everyone does that. Mine's stock, except for the emitter.
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    Crackup Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    To get the warranty!

    Surefire gets light in the mail to fix: “hey guys what is this thing?



    I wish I had a surefire. though i'd reather otherthings more.
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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    What's the point of wiping your a$$ if you're just going to hop into the shower and wash it anyways?

    I don't know. What's the piont of having more than 3 flashlights.

    Maybe because we don't all start out trying to LEGO. Maybe it's a place to start. Maybe the point for some people is to gradually tune their light to just what they need and in the beginning they don't know what they really need. Maybe it's neat to Lego you head off and then realize you have 3 more lights worth of parts in the closet. Maybe, just maybe, there is no answer good enough for you.

    My real answer is: Because that is how some people want to do it. My question is: Just why is it important to you?
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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. LED View Post
    What's the point of wiping your a$$ if you're just going to hop into the shower and wash it anyways?
    As non hygienic as that sounds I loled pretty hard.
    Its better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it.

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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    Ah well it's just that starting threads that in a sense call people stupid for doing something other than the way you do it as the central theme wear me out.

    I just don't get the point of threads like this when the answer is and always will be: Because.

    There is nothing to teach here, and nothing to learn.

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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    Agreed, I say if you aint the one buying it and "wasting" your money then who cares!
    Its better to have it and not need it, then to need it and not have it.

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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    why not just buy all the parts and build the light that you want instead of starting with a 6P?
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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    Quote Originally Posted by foxtrot29 View Post
    ...Surefire is the best, hands down....
    I know & agreed. I have at least 2 dozen SF and counting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightguy27 View Post
    Why buy a 6p when your also going to get a LED Dropin, leef body, and a McGizmo tailcap
    That I meant.


    Quote Originally Posted by rotncore View Post
    Mine's stock, except for the emitter.
    The main component of a flashlight is the light emitter. If you use a 3rd party light emitter, why buy SF?

    Quote Originally Posted by rotncore View Post
    at the end of that process you actually have 2 lights...2 is better than 1 no?
    Only 1 Frankenstein light, plus P60, body, tailcap.


    Quote Originally Posted by Juggernaut View Post
    To get the warranty!

    Surefire gets light in the mail to fix: “hey guys what is this thing? .
    Funny. I'm sure they will just return the entire package back to you as is.


    If such a Frankenstein light is faulty on the field, who faults ?
    a) SF
    b) Malkoff
    c) leef
    d) McGizmo
    e) modder
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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    I fault myself for leaving the house with something I did a poor job on.

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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    It's like when I was sixteen and bought a 1967 Stock Mustang and put on the Hooker Headers, Intake Manifold, Glass Packs, Holley Carb, Etc..Etc..Etc.....

    I could have done this with a Pinto but what's the point?

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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. LED View Post
    Ah well it's just that starting threads that in a sense call people stupid for doing something other than the way you do it as the central theme wear me out.
    Sorry, Sgt. LED, if the theme wear you out. I noticed this trend of buying SF as host to create Frankenstein light. I find this very odd and totally out of characters for most folks (people who like the brightest light at a cheap price) on this forum.

    I had no intention of calling any person stupid nor am I capable of dictating how other should work. There is a more efficient / cost effective way to do it, as suggested by SuperDave.

    Quote Originally Posted by Superdave View Post
    why not just buy all the parts and build the light that you want instead of starting with a 6P?
    Last edited by firefly99; 11-18-2008 at 09:10 PM.

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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    I would guess that for beginners like me, buying a Surefire to start with would give a little peace of mind.

    Perhaps I bought my Surefire before modding was an interest for me.

    What if I don't really like modding as much as I thought I would? (Is that even possible?) If I start with a Surefire light, then at the very least I still have a quality light left over.


    Having read these forums obsessively, I can state that I would probably not start with a Surefire host if I knew that my goal was to completely mod the light.

    Ultimately, there are as many starting points for modding as there are potential mods!

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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmo7809 View Post
    As non hygienic as that sounds I loled pretty hard.
    You should try a Bidet, they use less water.

    As to why:
    1.Legoing can potentially save some money.
    2." " " can add flexibility.
    3." " " can feed your Flasaholism.
    4.A learning experience.
    5.I have yet to find the perfect light.
    6.You like what you like.

    As to why not:
    1.Doing you own mods is definitely a learning experience but may be beyond the users capabilities, real or imagined.
    2.Could be just as expensive once you find all of the proper parts, pay for shipping, realize that you need other parts multiple suppliers and research but this also adds to and feeds your Flasaholism.
    3.Uncertain of the quality of the host.
    4.You like what you like.

    Personally, I want to do all of the above so you all make sense!

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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. LED View Post
    Ah well it's just that starting threads that in a sense call people stupid for doing something other than the way you do it as the central theme wear me out.

    I just don't get the point of threads like this when the answer is and always will be: Because.

    There is nothing to teach here, and nothing to learn.

    Which is why I answered the way I did. lol...

    These threads are pointless.

    Thread closed. Wait... I can't do that.
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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    I call this CertainFire. Because Surefire it ain't.


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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    So you have something that works out of the box, until all the other little boxes arrive giving you a complete light.

    Because you're only going to upgrade the emitter, and want a bulletproof host (in the sense of the 'ten thousand immortals' - each individual part may be falliable, but with Surefire sending you replacements for everything that breaks, the whole light is in effect immortal)

    Because once you replace the parts you're going to lego, you have enough left over to build a light for your glove box.

    I bought a Surefire for my first really serious light for reasons # 1 and 2.

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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmo7809 View Post
    As non hygienic as that sounds I loled pretty hard.
    I lol'd pretty hard at your use of lols, strangely enough.

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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    Some aftermarket parts are designed to fill the gaps that Surefire leaves open.

    Leef bodies are a great way to use 18500 or 18650 rechargeable cells, without having to bore out a stock Surefire body. (A procedure that not everyone can do properly). And the Leef bodies look as though they fit on a Surefire offering. Aggressive checkering, sold construction, etc.

    With regard to Gene's drop-ins, a Malkoff M60 is simply superior to Surefire's offerings. Slap a Surefire P61L label on an M60, and it would fit what Surefire has been promosing us; but has yet to deliver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by csshih View Post
    I lol'd pretty hard at your use of lols, strangely enough.
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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    WTH............!!!???


    Is there a McGizmo for the C-series.....!!!????????









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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    Quote Originally Posted by firefly99 View Post
    I find it very strange that some folks here buy SF 6P or 9P and convert them to a LED light with a 3rd party dropin.
    The M60L is better than the P60L in brightness and tint with comparable runtime. No, I wouldn't buy a 6P LED and use a dropin. But if I am looking for a 6P Malkoff, I would buy the 6P incan body.

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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    Quote Originally Posted by brucec View Post
    The M60L is better than the P60L in brightness and tint with comparable runtime. No, I wouldn't buy a 6P LED and use a dropin. But if I am looking for a 6P Malkoff, I would buy the 6P incan body.

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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    It's all relative. Different strokes for different folks.
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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    Let's see, surefire makes the best flashlights ever. Yet, a lot of people take theirs and put on so many after market parts it really isn't a surefire anymore, and this is really only to fill in the "gaps" left by surefire.

    How many users would claim "gaps" left by any other manufacturer mean the light is junk and not worth buying?

    Don't get me wrong I completely understand modifying, I do it to watches and cars all the time. It is just unfortunate that the OP got piled on for posing a question about surefire.

    IMHO we need to remember this is a discussion forum. Not every thread is going to teach us something.

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    Default Re: What the point of buying a real SF 6P ?

    Because some people like to own a SomeFire instead of a SureFire.

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