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    Default Malkoff LED drop-in for Surefires Spec List-Update 2016

    The Malkoff LED drop-in choices for Surefires have really expanded. I put together a simple chart in order to keep up with all the specís such as lumens and runtime. The chart is based on the information advertised for each LED on the Malkoff Devices website as of 2/5/2009 (updated 12/22/2012) as well as the IlluminationSupply and Oveready websites.
    All models are specifically designed to be used with Surefire flashlights but may or may not work in other brand lights as well.
    It appears that any of the models designated as Low Output (L, LL, LLL or LLLL) are safe bets to use in Nitrolon lights such as the Surefire G2, G2Z, G3, etc.
    Website wording: "Note: This drop-in module is intended to operate for extended periods in metal or plastic lights."

    Updated 1-10-2016.
    Thank you to the CPF members who PM'd me regarding typo's and changes to the original chart, most notably FroggyTaco, Inliner, etc, Replicant, and donn.


    Major Link Update
    Added INFRNL's comprehensive
    actual run time results, graphed for almost every currently available Malkoff module in just about every configuration possible.
    The data in my charts listed is what was published on the Malkoff Devices website product page at the time. INFRNL's thread looks to be the most definitive and comprehensive set of data for Malkoff modules to date. Bravo!
    LINK HERE:
    Malkoff Runtime Graphs - CR123/Alkaline Comparo







    Prototype
    P7 D26 dropin - Not a regular item. Special order only.
    6-29-08. Gene Malkoff's first P7 info post
    12-1-08. First look at the Proto P7 - Post with Pics by CPF member "gsnorm"

    9-10-12. Rare Malkoff P60 dropin compendium thread is here.

    Beamshots:

    12-19-08. M60L vs M60 vs M60W by CPF member "wacbzz" (with Animated GIFs)
    5-28-2008 M60F beamshot by CPF member "Wattnot"







    L= Low
    LL=Low Low
    LLL= Low, Low, Low
    LLLL= Low, Low, Low, Low

    F= Flood
    W=Warm


    Link to M30 & M60 Runtimes on rechargeables HERE

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    History/Development Timeline

    Model
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    LED Lumens Mfr. Published Runtime Tested Runtime Optic Input Voltage Draw CRI Price/Year
    M60 Aluminum Cree XRE 7090, Q2 bin, WG tint 180@6v 2-3 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD UNK 3.8v-9v 700mA@6v Cool White $49
    10/2007
    M60 Brass Cree XRE 7090, Q5 bin, WG tint 235@6v 1 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD Khatod 6 degree optic 3.8v-9v 780mA@6v Cool White $60
    3/2008
    M60 Brass Cree XRE 7090 235@6v 1 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) Cree 8 degree optic 3.8v-9v 750mA@6v Cool White $55
    8/2008
    M60L
    Low

    Cree XRE 7090, Q5 bin, WG tint 140@6v 4 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD Khatod 6 degree optic 3.8v-9v 350mA@6v Cool White $60
    3/2008
    M60L
    Low

    Cree XRE 7090 140@6v 4 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD Cree 8 degree optic 3.8v-9v 350mA@6v Cool White $55
    9/2008
    M60LF
    Low Flood
    Cree XRE 7090, Q5 bin, WG tint 140@6v 4 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD Khatod 25 degree optic 3.8v-9v 350mA@6v Cool White $55
    8/2008
    M60LF
    Low Flood
    Cree XRE 7090, Q5 bin, WG tint 140@6v 4 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD Cree 20 degree optic 3.8v-9v 350mA@6v Cool White $55
    3/2009
    M60LL
    Low Low


    Cree XRE 7090, Q5 bin, WG tint 80@6v 8 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD Khatod 6 degree optic 3.8v-9v 170mA@6v Cool White $60
    3/2008
    M60LL
    Low Low
    Cree XRE 7090 80@6v 8 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD Cree 8 degree optic 3.8v-9v 170mA@6v Cool White $55
    9/2008
    M60F
    Flood
    XRE 7090, Q5 bin, WG tint 235@6v 1 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD Khatod 25 degree optic 3.8v-9v 780mA@6v Cool White $55
    8/2008
    M60F
    Flood
    Cree XRE 7090 220@6v 1 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD Cree 20 degree optic 3.8v-9v 750mA@6v Cool White $55
    9/2008
    M60WF
    Warm Flood
    Cree XRE 7090 170@6v 1 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD Cree 20 degree optic 3.8v-9v 750mA@6v Warm $55
    3/2009
    M60WL
    Warm Low
    Cree XRE 7090 100@6v 4 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD Cree 8 degree optic 3.8v-9v 350mA@6v Warm $55
    3/2009
    M60 WLF
    Warm Low Flood
    Cree XRE 7090 100@6v 4 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD Cree 20 degree optic 3.8v-9v 350mA@6v Warm $55
    3/2010
    M60W
    Warm
    Cree XRE 7090 170@6v 1 1/2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD Cree 8 degree optic 3.8v-9v 750mA@6v Warm $55
    2/2009
    M60 MC-E
    (Flood)
    Cree MC-E Quad Die LED 500@6v 45 min on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD Cree 20 degree optic 5v-13v 1300mA@6v Cool White $125
    11/2009
    M60W MC-E
    Warm Flood
    Cree MC-E Quad Die LED 400@6v 45 min on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD Cree 20 degree optic 5v-13v 1300mA@6v Warm $125
    11/2009
    Model
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    LED Lumens Mfr. Published Runtime Tested Runtime Optic Input Voltage Draw CRI Price/Year
    M61 Cree XP-G 260@6v 2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 650mA@6v Cool White $69
    8/2010
    M61 Cree XP-G2 325@6v 1.5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 650mA@6v Cool White $55
    7/2014
    M61 219B Nichia
    (Exclusive to Illumination Supply.)
    Nichia NVSL219BT 225@6v 1.5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 580mA@6v Neutral
    4500K
    92CRI
    $52
    10/2014
    M61L
    Low
    Cree XP-G 175@6v 5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 300mA@6v Cool White $69
    8/2010
    M61L
    Low
    Cree XP-G2 175@6v 5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 300mA@6v Cool White $59
    9/2014
    M61LL
    Low Low
    Cree XP-G 100@6v 10 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 150mA@6v Cool White $69
    8/2010
    M61LL
    Low Low
    Cree XP-G2 100@6v 10 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 150mA@6v Cool White $59
    9/2014
    M61LL 219B
    Low Low Nichia
    (Exclusive to Illumination Supply.)
    Nichia NVSL219BT 65@6v 10 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 100mA@6v Neutral
    4500K
    92CRI
    $55
    03/2015
    M61W
    Warm
    Cree XP-G 240@6v 2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 650mA@6v Warm $69
    12/2010
    M61W
    Warm
    Cree XP-G 200@6v 2 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 650mA@6v Warm
    3700K
    80CRI
    $59
    1/2013
    M61W
    Warm
    Cree XP-G2 200@6v 1.5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 650mA@6v Warm
    3000K
    80CRI
    $59
    08/2014
    M61N
    Neutral
    Cree XP-G2 280@6v 1.5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 650mA@6v Warm
    4000K
    $59
    10/2014
    M61N
    Neutral
    Cree XP-G2 360@6v 1.5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 800mA@6v Warm
    4000K
    80 CRI
    $61
    05/2018
    M61NL
    Neutral Low
    Cree XP-G2 130@6v 5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 300mA@6v Warm
    4000K
    $59
    10/2014
    M61NL
    Neutral Low
    Cree XP-G2 160@6v 5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 360mA@6v Warm
    4000K
    80CRI
    $61
    05/2018
    M61NLL
    Neutral Low Low
    Cree XP-G2 60@6v 10 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 140mA@6v Warm
    4000K
    80CRI
    $61
    05/2018
    M61WLL
    Warm Low Low
    Cree XP-G 70@6v 10 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 140mA@6v Warm $69
    12/2010
    M61WLL
    Warm Low Low
    Cree XP-G 70@6v 10 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 140mA@6v Warm
    3700K
    80CRI
    $59
    1/2013
    M61WLL
    Warm Low Low
    Cree XP-G2 70@6v 10 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 140mA@6v Warm
    3000K
    80CRI
    $59
    09/2015
    M61WL
    Warm Low
    Cree XP-G 125@6v 5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 300mA@6v Warm $75
    03/2011
    M61WL Warm Low Cree XP-G 125@6v 5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-9v 300mA@6v Warm
    3700K
    80CRI
    $59
    1/2013
    M61HO
    High Output
    Cree XP-G 300@6v 1.25-1.5 hrs on 2 CR123's (6v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 5.5v-12v 1000mA@6v Cool White $75
    06/2012
    M61SHO
    Super High Output
    Cree XP-G2 385@5.5-12v -45 mins on 2 CR123's (6v)
    -2.5 hrs on 3 CR123's (9v)
    -3hrs on 4 CR123's (12v)
    various batteries custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 5.5v-12v 1000mA@6v
    600mA@9v
    450mA@12v
    Cool White $69
    01/2013
    M61SHO
    Super High Output
    Cree XP-G2 400@5.5-12v -no data on 2 CR123's (6v)
    -2.25hrs on 3 CR123's (9v)
    -3hrs on 4 CR123's (12v)
    TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 5.5v-12v no published data Cool White $69
    10/2014
    M61 SHO 219B
    Super High Output Nichia
    (Exclusive to Illumination Supply.)
    Nichia NVSL219BT 300@5.5-12v 2 hrs on 3 CR123's (9v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 5.5v-12v 650@9v Neutral
    4500K
    92CRI
    $52
    05/2015
    Model
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    LED Lumens Mfr. Published Runtime Tested Runtime Optic Input Voltage Draw CRI Price/Year
    M30 Cree XRE 7090 160@3v
    235@3.3v
    1 1/4 hrs on 1 CR123 (3v) TBD Cree 8 degree optic 1-5.5v TBD Cool White $55
    12/2008
    M30F
    Flood
    Cree XRE 7090 160@3v
    235@3.3v
    1 1/4 hrs on 1 CR123 (3v) TBD Cree 20 degree optic 1-5.5v TBD Cool White $55
    12/2008
    M30W
    Warm
    Cree XRE 7090 120@3v
    170@3.3v
    1 1/4 hrs on 1 CR123 (3v) TBD Cree 8 degree optic 1-5.5v TBD Warm $55
    12/2008
    M30WF
    Warm Flood
    Cree XRE 7090 120@3v
    170@3.3v
    1 1/4 hrs on 1 CR123 (3v) TBD Cree 20 degree optic 1-5.5v TBD Warm $55
    12/2008
    Model
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    LED Lumens Mfr. Published Runtime Tested Runtime Optic Input Voltage Draw CRI Price/Year
    M31 Cree XP-G 150@1.2v
    230@1.8-3.3v
    not stated.
    varies.
    TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish .08-3.3v 1 Amp at 3v
    1.4 Amps at 2.4v
    Cool White $69
    12/2010
    M31 Cree XP-G2 150@1.2v
    280@1.8-3.3v
    not stated.
    varies.
    TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish .08-3.3v 1 Amp at 3v
    1.4 Amps at 2.4v
    Cool White $69
    09/2014
    M31 219B
    Nichia
    (Exclusive to Illumination Supply.)
    Nichia NVSL219BT 210@1.8-3.3v not stated.
    varies.
    TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish .08-3.3v 1.1 Amps at 3v Neutral
    4500K
    92CRI
    $52
    02/2015
    M31W
    Warm
    Cree XP-G 130@1.2v
    210@1.8-3.3v
    not stated.
    varies.
    TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish .08-3.3v 1 Amp at 3v
    1.4 Amps at 2.4v
    Warm $69
    12/2010
    M31W
    Warm
    Cree XP-G 130@1.2v
    210@1.8-3.3v
    not stated.
    varies.
    TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish .08-3.3v 1 Amp at 3v
    1.4 Amps at 2.4v
    Warm
    3700K
    80CRI
    $69
    1/2013
    M31W
    Warm
    Cree XP-G 130@1.2v
    210@1.8-3.3v
    not stated.
    varies.
    TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish .08-3.3v 1 Amp at 3v
    1.4 Amps at 2.4v
    Warm
    3000K
    80CRI
    $69
    9/2014
    M31LL
    Low Low
    Cree XP-G 60@.08-3.0v not stated.
    varies.
    TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish .08-3.0v 225mA@3v
    275mA@2.4v
    550mA@1.2v
    Cool White $69
    3/2011
    M31WL Warm Low Cree XP-G 115@1.2-3.3v not stated.
    varies.
    TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish .08-3.0v 550mA@3v
    650mA@2.4v
    Warm $69
    6/2011
    M31WL Warm Low Cree XP-G 115@1.2-3.3v not stated.
    varies.
    TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish .08-3.3v 550mA@3v
    650mA@2.4v
    Warm
    3700K
    80CRI
    $69
    6/2013
    M31L
    Low
    Cree XP-G 125@1.2-3.3v not stated.
    varies.
    TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish .08-3.3v 550mA@3v
    650mA@2.4v
    Cool White $69
    12/2014
    M31L 219B Low Low Nichia
    (Exclusive to Illumination Supply.)

    Nichia NVSL219BT 120@.08-3.3v not stated.
    varies.
    TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish .08-3.3v 500mA@3v Neutral
    4500K
    92CRI
    $52
    03/2015
    M361 Low-Med-High Cree XP-G2 Low 15
    Medium 80
    High 400
    not stated.
    varies.
    TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-6v 15@50mA
    80@270mA
    400@1450mA
    Cool
    White
    6200K
    $69
    6/2013
    M361N
    Neutral Low-Med-High
    Cree XP-G2 Low 15
    Medium 75
    High 375
    not stated.
    varies.
    TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 3.4v-6v 15@50mA
    75@270mA
    375@1450mA
    Warm Neutral
    4000K
    $69
    6/2013
    Model
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    LED Lumens Mfr. Published Runtime Tested Runtime Optic Input Voltage Draw CRI Price/Year
    M91
    (very floody)
    Cree XM-L 500@6.5v-12v
    450 continuous
    1 1/5 hrs on 3 CR123 (9v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 6.5v-12v 800mA@9v
    600mA@12v
    Cool
    White
    $125
    5/2011
    M91W Warm
    (very floody)
    Cree XM-L 450@6.5v-12v
    400 continuous
    1 1/5 hrs on 3 CR123 (9v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 6.5v-12v 800mA@9v
    1600mA@6v
    Warm
    3500K
    80CRI
    $125
    5/2011
    M91A
    flood
    Cree XM-L 750@5.5v-12v
    650 continuous
    1 hr on 3 CR123 (9v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 5.5v-12v 1900mA@6v
    1200mA@9v
    Cool
    White
    $125
    10/2012
    M91AW
    Warm
    Cree XM-L2 700@5.5v-12v
    625 continuous
    1 hr on 3 CR123 (9v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 5.5v-12v 1900mA@6v
    1200mA@9v
    Warm
    3000K
    80CRI
    $89
    07/2013
    M91B Cree XP-L 825@5.5v-12v
    700 continuous
    Lux 5400@1 meter
    1 hr on 3 CR123 (9v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 5.5v-12v 1000mA@9v Cool
    White
    6200K
    $89
    05/2014
    M91B Cree XP-L 1000@5.5v-12v
    900 continuous
    Lux 8500@1 meter
    45-60 min on 3 CR123 (9v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 5.5v-12v 1000mA@9v Cool
    White
    6200K
    $89
    05/2018
    M91BW
    Warm
    Cree XP-L 700@5.5v-12v
    575 continuous
    1 hr on 3 CR123 (9v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 5.5v-12v 950mA@9v Warm
    3000K
    80CRI
    $89
    12/2014
    M91BW
    Warm
    Cree XP-L 900@5.5v-12v
    790 continuous
    45-60 min on 3 CR123 (9v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 5.5v-12v 950mA@9v Warm
    3000K
    80CRI
    $89
    05/2018
    M91T
    Throw. (Fits in Surefire M series with MDM4 adaptor)
    Cree XP-L HI 1040@5.5v-12v
    750 continuous
    Lux 19,000@1 meter
    30-45 min on 3 CR123 (9v) TBD custom orange peel reflector by Don McLeish 5.5v-12v 1250mA@9v Cool White $149.99 wi th MDM4 adaptor.
    $160-$200 complete light
    09/2018
    Model
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    LED Lumens Mfr. Published Runtime Tested Runtime Optic Input Voltage Draw CRI Price/Year
    MD60
    for Surefire turbo head weapon lights
    Cree XM-L LED 450@6.5v-12v 1 3/4 hrs on 3 CR123 (9v)
    2 1/4 hrs on 4 CR123 (12v)
    3 hrs on Surefire M6
    TBD none.
    Utilizes Surefire Turbo Head reflector
    6.5v-14v 800mA@9v
    620mA@12v
    Cool
    White
    $119
    12/2011
    MD60 for Surefire turbo head weapon lights Cree XM-L2 LED 450@6.5v-12v 1 hr on 3 CR123 (9v)
    1.5 hrs on 4 CR123 (12v)
    2 hrs on Surefire M6
    TBD none.
    Utilizes Surefire Turbo Head reflector
    6.5v-14v 1170mA@9v
    870mA@12v
    Cool
    White
    6200K
    $89
    06/2014
    MD10 for Surefire weapon lights Cree XP-G 260@6.5v-12v 2 1/2 hrs on 3 CR123 (9v)
    3hrs on 4 CR123 (12v)
    TBD none.
    Utilizes Surefire Head reflector
    6.5v-14v 650mA@9v
    500mA@12v
    Cool
    White
    $99
    12/2011
    MD10 for Surefire weapon lights Cree XP-G 300@6.5v-12v 2 1/2 hrs on 3 CR123 (9v)
    3hrs on 4 CR123 (12v)
    TBD none.
    Utilizes Surefire Head reflector
    6.5v-14v 650mA@9v
    500mA@12v
    Cool
    White
    $89
    07/2014

    Last edited by NotRegulated; 09-29-2018 at 07:00 PM. Reason: update

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    Default Re: Malkoff LED drop-in choices for Surefires spec list

    Wow - nice work!

    We could really use a "Malkoff Info Repository" thread complete with your info (and the M30 varieties)!

    Also, would be nice to see the estimated runtimes for each battery type since there are just so many darn ways to run these monsters!

    I'm actually wondering what to expect on the M60W with 2x AW's IMR 18650s

    Again, thanks for your work!!!

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    Default Re: Malkoff LED drop-in choices for Surefires spec list

    NotRegulated, nice job! Why not edit your post to add all the M30's. There's a lot of interest in these new drop-ins lately. Thanks!
    Don't sweat the small stuff...

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    Default Re: Malkoff LED drop-in choices for Surefires spec list

    Quote Originally Posted by roymail View Post
    NotRegulated, nice job! Why not edit your post to add all the M30's. There's a lot of interest in these new drop-ins lately. Thanks!

    thanks guys.
    I have a great spreadsheet all formatted with both the M60 and M30 info but after several attempts I have been unable to post the info in an organized manner like a table format. Do you know if that can be done? It would make it much more readable.
    Last edited by NotRegulated; 12-19-2008 at 05:16 PM.

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    Default Re: Malkoff LED drop-in choices for Surefires spec list

    Tedious and imprecise, but similar to how the registries do it:

    Model.....Lumens.....Runtime @ 6v.....optic..........input voltage..........current draw
    M60........235............1:30:00..............8 degree......3.8-9 volts..............750ma
    M60L......140.............4:30:00..............8 degree......3.8-9 volts..............350ma

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    Default Re: Malkoff LED drop-in choices for Surefires spec list

    Quote Originally Posted by HoopleHead View Post
    Tedious and imprecise, but similar to how the registries do it:

    Model.....Lumens.....Runtime @ 6v.....optic..........input voltage..........current draw
    M60........235............1:30:00..............8 degree......3.8-9 volts..............750ma
    M60L......140.............4:30:00..............8 degree......3.8-9 volts..............350ma

    I like the current draw info and this layout. It helps me estimate my runtime with my application. Also, you can put the Malkoff P7 drop-in
    Surefire 6P with Malkoff M60 simple, bright, efficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopleHead View Post
    Tedious and imprecise, but similar to how the registries do it:

    Model.....Lumens.....Runtime @ 6v.....optic..........input voltage..........current draw
    M60........235............1:30:00..............8 degree......3.8-9 volts..............750ma
    M60L......140.............4:30:00..............8 degree......3.8-9 volts..............350ma
    thanks. This works much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigchelis View Post
    Also, you can put the Malkoff P7 drop-in
    The info is not on Malkoff's website yet. Do you have it?

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    I just have to say that these drop ins are outstanding... his mag drop ins are outstanding too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotRegulated View Post
    The info is not on Malkoff's website yet. Do you have it?
    No,
    but I should have my P7 drop-in from Gene this weekend.

    He said it will make 600 to 700 lumens on direct drive. I told him I would be using a single 18650 cell, so my guess is the voltage is limited from 1-5v. I will ask him and report back.
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    The first post states that the M60L and LL should be safe to run in Nitrolon G2 and G3 flashlights. Is there any official word on that? I've emailed Malkoff and have not yet received a reply.

    My goal is to get an M60 and run it in an aluminum bezel G3 with an extra cell adaptor and 2x 17670s. I am required to use a plastic flashlight at work, so I can't just go with a 9p. My question is: What is the specific dangers in using an M60 in an aluminum bezeled nitrolon light? I know the theorectical danger of overheating, but is there a guideline?

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    Great work putting it together. I don't suppose you could do the same for the Mag drop-ins? A quick reference guide like this would be helpful for those like me looking to mod a mag.

    Thanks and nice work,

    -JB

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    There isn't a guideline as such - at least not one I've seen.

    I run an M60 in a G3 and I've never had an overheat issue - but then again, I don't run prolonged periods either.

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    Default Re: Malkoff LED drop-in for Surefires Spec List

    Quote Originally Posted by jaundice View Post
    The first post states that the M60L and LL should be safe to run in Nitrolon G2 and G3 flashlights. Is there any official word on that? I've emailed Malkoff and have not yet received a reply.
    From the Malkoff Devices website:

    Note: This drop-in module was intended to operate at maximum brightness for tactical usage similar to the original setup. Operating the unit for more than 15 continuous minutes in plastic lights may cause damage to the drop-in module. This is not an issue in metal lights.

    My experience with the M60L, no heat issues whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roymail View Post
    From the Malkoff Devices website:

    Note: This drop-in module was intended to operate at maximum brightness for tactical usage similar to the original setup. Operating the unit for more than 15 continuous minutes in plastic lights may cause damage to the drop-in module. This is not an issue in metal lights.

    My experience with the M60L, no heat issues whatsoever.

    The exceptions are the M60L, M60LF, M60WL, M60WLF and M60LL. The Malkoff Website states,
    "Note: This drop-in module is intended to operate for extended periods in metal or plastic lights."

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    The question is how Gene rates the "hybrid" metal/plastic G2/G3 lights. I asked him at one point last year and I think he considered them equal to the all-aluminum lights, but to be very honest I don't recall with certainty. It isn't a real issue for me so I didn't store the answer. Someone could email or call Gene to get definitive word on that.
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    The Malkoff P7 drop-in I have ran with no noticeable drop for at least 1 hour. It then started dropping, but at 2 hours it was still bright, just not 700 lumens.

    I used protected DX 18650's Trustfire.
    I also used the P7 in a single 16340 set-up in my Pentagon PX1 and It ran for exactly 15 minutes before I started to see a drop in output.
    Last edited by bigchelis; 01-05-2009 at 06:30 PM.
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    STICKY!

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    Yes, this definitely needs to be stickied! Good call, Sarge!
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    Default Re: Malkoff LED drop-in choices for Surefires spec list

    Quote Originally Posted by NotRegulated View Post
    I have a great spreadsheet all formatted with both the M60 and M30 info but after several attempts I have been unable to post the info in an organized manner like a table format. Do you know if that can be done? It would make it much more readable.
    Take a screenshot of your spreadsheet page, edit/resize accordingly then host it & post it up (see below)


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    JNewell:

    Yes, that's exactly the question. I've emailed the Malkoff company through the website, but haven't received a reply. I'm extremely interested to know.

    -John

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    bigchelis,
    Thanks for the updated info on the P7. I added it above.

    M@elstrom,
    Thank you for the tip. I like how format looks. I currently am not using a host service but is something I want to do for 2009 so I can start posting my own images instead of just describing them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotRegulated View Post
    bigchelis,
    Thanks for the updated info on the P7. I added it above.

    M@elstrom,
    Thank you for the tip. I like how format looks. I currently am not using a host service but is something I want to do for 2009 so I can start posting my own images instead of just describing them.
    Just use http://imageshack.us/ that's all I do best of all it's 100% FREE! there's also http://www.photobucket.com but they tend to purge their servers a little too often for my tastes

    BTW that's your file now, it's located here http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6747/82788999ci5.jpg
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    The M60 will be fine in a nitrolon light with a metal head.

    Thanks, Gene

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    I love it when you show up!
    It's always good news.

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    I'm a flashaholic too! Unfortunately, don't get to spend near enough time in here. But I do get to spend more time than I should be allowed in the shop. I really appreciate what you have done NotRegulated, if I didn't live and breathe this stuff I would be confused with all the M60/M30 variants.

    Thanks, Gene

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    Gene, it's good to see you drop in and post to clear up questions. Like many others here, I'm and an early adopter of many of your products. I started out with one of your silver handmade M60's which is still in service in a 9P. I bought more variations over the year but your current M60 Q5 has transformed my 2 and 3 cell Surefires into formidable useful lights. But now I need a chart to keep track of all the variations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by M@elstrom View Post
    BTW that's your file now, it's located here http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6747/82788999ci5.jpg
    Thank you for the value added to this thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gene43 View Post
    The M60 will be fine in a nitrolon light with a metal head.

    Thanks, Gene
    Thanks, Gene. There's the answer on the AL bezel Nitrolon lights.
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    Yes, I emailed Gene and he said it is safe to run the m60L in a G2 or G3

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