Storing batteries and explosive gases

cy

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Storing batteries and explosive gases

have always noticed funny smells from batteries stored in plastic containers.

so poked my Bacharach Combustible Gas detector into a few of my many battery storage containers.

first container had a mix of NMH, alk and li-ion thrown together recently from my desktop. negative results..

second was a Pelican Case full of Battery Station CR123.... that passed

third was a tub full of NHM cells which had not been touched for sometime.... that passed too

forth was a tub of Li-ion cells stored for several months... alarms went off... tub was full of explosive gases....

evidently gases has to accumulate for a bit to set detector off.
have not tried lighting up gases :green:

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zipplet

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I have the same experience.. CR123As (and infact even lithium coin cells stored in quantity) seem to produce some kind of gas when stored. I have not noticed any smell from rechargeable Li-ions however.

Thanks for the test.
 

cy

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seems gases takes a bit to accumulate enough for combustible gas meter to pickup. also the tub that set meter off had a fairly large assortment of li-ion cells (24 cells) from world's first R123 to bare 18650 to protected 18650 to a wolf eyes (pila) cell...
 

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cy, I'm wondering what you think this model is detecting? Looking at their link, it detects:
Acetone, Acetylene, Benzene, Butane, Ethanol, Ethylene Oxide, Gasoline, Hexane, Hydrogen, Industrial Solvents, Iso-Butane, Methane, Methanol, Paint Thinners, Propane, Natural Gas, and Naptha.
 

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Am I right in saying a good way to solve things for the paranoid would be to punch a small hole (3mm or so) in the box somewhere? Obviously for indoor/non waterproof storage.
 

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no clue on which gas... but I suspect hydrogen

I just have a hard time accepting that batteries at rest like these are putting out detectable level of explosive gases, given their uses/applications. I'm not saying they're not, but the question of false positive detection may be another explanation.
 

cy

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don't know what it is.. but Bacharach Combustible Meters are the standard of the industry. some type of combustible gas is being emitted.

got two positive responses within 2-3 minutes... will try it again soon. of course false positive are always a possibility.

I just have a hard time accepting that batteries at rest like these are putting out detectable level of explosive gases, given their uses/applications. I'm not saying they're not, but the question of false positive detection may be another explanation.
 

petersmith6

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i one had some cheap beer and a cheap curry and set of a hydrogen suphide alarm at work when i farted...

back to the point..if batteries give of explosive gases then dose that make my maglite a pipe bomb :candle::poof::oops:


just a thought
 
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