P60 sized led drop-ins (part 3)

[old4570]

ya i can wait

any eta on it?

Maybe next week ,

[bugsy714]

Hello to all,

I tried searching dx but could not figure out what mc-e drop-in to buy for a solarforce l2 (6p clone) running on an 18650?

[bigchelis]

Here you go...
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.21037

MrGman tested it for out the front lumens.

With an IMR 18650 it did 348 out the front



With a IMR 16340 it did 340 out the front

FYI: The Malkoff P60 P7 drop-in (no longer made) did 383 out the front. So, it is not that bad considering how much better heatsink the Malkoff unit has.

[bugsy714]

Sweet, thanks for the link!

I noticed the cells used by mrgman were imr or unprotected li, are protected li cells going to work with this drop-in?

[hyperloop]

Hi there, i got this dropin, used it in an Ultrafire host running off a generic Trustfire protected 18650 and it runs fine, it will not work with 2x16340s, it just flickers in that configuration, havent tried it with 1x16340 and some spacers though. hmmmmmmmm

[kramer5150]

Hi there, i got this dropin, used it in an Ultrafire host running off a generic Trustfire protected 18650 and it runs fine, it will not work with 2x16340s, it just flickers in that configuration, havent tried it with 1x16340 and some spacers though. hmmmmmmmm

Specs for the DX-MCE (SKU:21037) are as follows:

1 x 18650, or 1 x 3.0V/3.6V CR123A battery
So its DEFINITELY not designed for 8.4V... The flickering you see is the circuit screaming at you "OUCH... that hurts!!"

[Fizz753]

Hey guys and gals and others (I'll let you decide where you want to land on that one). I got sidetracked and busy for the last couple of months and only managed to make a couple of visits so there has been almost no list updates for a some time. Sorry about that, or did anyone even notice . Anyway I'll see what I can do about updating the prices that have changed this week some time. And as always if I am missing something toss me a PM and I'll get it added in.

[kramer5150]

Hey guys and gals and others (I'll let you decide where you want to land on that one). I got sidetracked and busy for the last couple of months and only managed to make a couple of visits so there has been almost no list updates for a some time. Sorry about that, or did anyone even notice . Anyway I'll see what I can do about updating the prices that have changed this week some time. And as always if I am missing something toss me a PM and I'll get it added in.

No Prob....
You should be aware that DXs' supplier made some changes to the once GREAT SKU:11836.... thread here. According to one member who tested his in Garys sphere, the current rendition 11836 barely emits 120L OTF after a minute or two of thermal warming.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=236337

[Black Rose]

I have a need for an infrared light.

What would be the better option: get an infrared lense/filter for my existing drop-in(s) or get an actual infrared drop-in?

EDIT: Did a bit of digging and it appears that a dedicated P60 IR drop-in is the way to go.

[bansuri]

Just got this drop-in from DX: Cree XLamp XP-C-R2 5-Mode 90-Lumen Memory Red Light Drop-in LED Module (38mm*26mm/8.4V Max)

I'm a newish flashoholic and was curious to see the effects of using colored lights and how it affects our night vision so I ordered one of these and a red filter for my Fenix TK20.
I got the Fenix filter and my initial thoughts were that it seemed to work OK but I'd wait and do a side-by-side comparison. The drop-in arrived and I popped it in to the host. I chose this model since it had a voltage range of 2.8~8.4V and I have a single RCR123 host that I wanted to use it in for around the house.
The Fenix filter looks orange compared to the output of this drop-in.
The drop-in cycles through hi-med-low-strobe-sos. I guess they just slapped it on a board that was handy as I just can't think of a practical use for the disco modes, but I'm new at this...
The high is probably waaaaayyyy too bright to be useful in a situation where you're trying to preserve your night-vision but will be a lot of fun at Halloween. Even the low is pretty bright, I'll get back with some unscientific tests later.
The memory works correctly so far.
If used for close-up nighttime tasks a diffuser would be helpful to spread the useful light around as there is an extreme hotspot when used with my Surefire.

Summary:
-Red, RED output.
-Very bright, may need a diffuser.
-Mode memory,
-I feel that the quality is a notch or two above some of the other DX drop-ins I've got as the Positive (+) terminal spring is soldered securely to a large trace on the PCB which has NO exposed surface-mount components unlike some others I have. I have one that has the spring mounted to the top of an IC via a build-up of solder from a couple legs. ugh.


I'll post some beamshots tonight.

[yuk]

I am looking for a reliable P60 host dropin with great throw!
Any recommendations?

[Superdave]

the Lumens factory R2 single mode has excellent throw. The best i've seen from any P60 assembly.

the hotspot is so bright that i ended up buying a SF diffuser so that i could use it for close up work.

[trdsupragt]

Hey guys, I've got a 3V SureFire weapon light that I'd like to convert to LED. I was wondering which bulb would provide the most amount of light on a single 3v 123A battery. I'd also like for it to be as inexpensive as possible as well.

Thanks!

[Justin Case]

Do you care about reliability for your weaponlight, or just want output and cheap price?

[trdsupragt]

Reliability isn't as much of a concern for me, but would be nice I suppose. What are my options?

[old4570]

Its the nature of the beast : All R2's throw rather well .. [ P60 ]

Just depends : What your other needs are ..

Battery Life ? XP-E R2 - I have 3 XP-E drop ins , they cant compete with HOT R2's , but will compare to stock XR-E R2's running around 1A for throw .

A good hot R2 [ 1.5A ] is hard to beat [ P60 ] for throw .

The XP-G R4 is just around the corner [ There is talk of 350Lumen ] and it certainly sounds interesting , I talked to the importer here , and they have a delivery date , so hopefully it wont be to long before I get my hands on a R3 and a R4 XP-G , the P60 pill is ready and waiting .

[Hwy115]

I have a 10 year old Surefire6P. I want to get a drop in LED setup for the light. The bulb I would like would be very powerful with decent runtime. I have AW R17670 1600 mah and I have AW RCR123A 750 mah batteries. What is the bottom line best drop in for this unit? I have a P61 in my light right now. Can I use the AW's with the P61 bulb?
Thanks,
Steve

[AFAustin]

The XP-G R4 is just around the corner [ There is talk of 350Lumen ] and it certainly sounds interesting , I talked to the importer here , and they have a delivery date , so hopefully it wont be to long before I get my hands on a R3 and a R4 XP-G , the P60 pill is ready and waiting .

I'm in the market for a drop-in for a C2 myself, and was wondering about XP-G R4 availability. I sent an e-mail inquiry to Lumens Factory, and they replied quickly. The good news is they will be making an XP-G R4 drop-in, but the bad news is that it may be a few months. (I'm no modder, so no DIY for me.)

[old4570]

The XP-G's have arrived , picked up a R3 and two R5's this morning ....

Im not sure , but am I the first flashaholic with some R5's ?

[Black Rose]

Im not sure , but am I the first flashaholic with some R5's ?

Depends if 4Sevens already has his.

Considering his name was in the Cree press release, I'm guessing you might not be first in line

[old4570]

Depends if 4Sevens already has his.

Considering his name was in the Cree press release, I'm guessing you might not be first in line

I was thinking more along the line of Retail Purchase !

[outersquare]

i just got the DX XPE R2 drop in, it is quite good,

their website description is wrong, the sticker says 4.2V-8.4V
tried it in both G2/6PDL

the beam is very smooth,
not ringy like the older DX XRE R2

hotspot is smaller/hotter than E2DL
but more/brighter spill

fit is perfect size without spring
does not leave gap between head/bezel

recommended

ed; current draw at tail on hi ~1.0 amp

[notsobrite]

i don't know if this has been mentioned, but nailbender has the new xp-g r4 in hand. i ordered a p60 dropin and it hopefully might be here this week here is a link to his post.

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=239719

[outersquare]

yes, someone hurry and make an XPG S2 P60 module

[SFG2Lman]

yes, someone hurry and make an XPG S2 P60 module

that should read "yes, malkoff hurry and make an XPG S2 P60 module" i cannot wait for that day...

[mfrey]

that should read "yes, malkoff hurry and make an XPG S2 P60 module" i cannot wait for that day...

I really hope Gene migrates to the XP-G also. I'm holding off on any P60 upgrade purchases until I see what he does in the next few months.

[notsobrite]

The XP-G's have arrived , picked up a R3 and two R5's this morning ....

Im not sure , but am I the first flashaholic with some R5's ?

so... how do you like them?

[sparktastic]

I have taken delivery of some XPG's on the 10mm pad from cutter.
I mounted the XPG R4 into the DX (originally XPE) P60 Drop-in.
The result?

Very dissapointing!

Despite the Drop-in reflector hole matching the size of the XPG perfectly, the XPG emitter is the same size as the XPE, the resultant pattern and output was horrible. The hotspot is virtually non existant, no matter how far in or out the emitters dome extends into the reflector, it seems impossible to focus the beam. The light output was somewhat dissapointing too.

I have to say, that so far I have been very dissapointed with the XPE/XPG sized emitter for flashlight use.

Having said all that, the XPG would probably be a cloud burner with a 50+mm glass aspheric lens.. It just doesn't seem that these emitters work all that well with reflector style flashlights.

[ionizedsky]

Well maybe Gene will have some better luck with these than

[kramer5150]

I have taken delivery of some XPG's on the 10mm pad from cutter.
I mounted the XPG R4 into the DX (originally XPE) P60 Drop-in.
The result?

Very dissapointing!

Despite the Drop-in reflector hole matching the size of the XPG perfectly, the XPG emitter is the same size as the XPE, the resultant pattern and output was horrible. The hotspot is virtually non existant, no matter how far in or out the emitters dome extends into the reflector, it seems impossible to focus the beam. The light output was somewhat dissapointing too.

I have to say, that so far I have been very dissapointed with the XPE/XPG sized emitter for flashlight use.

Having said all that, the XPG would probably be a cloud burner with a 50+mm glass aspheric lens.. It just doesn't seem that these emitters work all that well with reflector style flashlights.

I wouldn't give up hope just yet... my best white wall hunters are my XP-E lights. They have a very smooth transition from the center spot, no rings, or artifacts at all. I think you might be using a poorly designed reflector.

Have you tried comparing the XP-G output with ceiling bounce?