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    Default Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    One that is somewhat small?

    A 6P or smaller, probably an 18650 setup. With <10 lumens of output? Preferrably around 3 lumens.

    Does anyone know of such a setup?
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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Sounds like a minimag to me.

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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    I hope that's not the only one. >.<
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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Voltage becomes an issue. A 18650 fresh off the charger is ~4.2V. I do not think anyone makes a board to cut down the voltage to get below 10 lumens.

    A Maglite solitatire should be dim and run off a AAA. Surefire had a light called the "Hurricane" that was incandescent and run off "dead" CR123s.

    Good luck on your search. I would say it would be easier to meet those specs with LED's.

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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    One surefire hurricane for sale
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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Quote Originally Posted by metlarules View Post
    Sounds like a minimag to me.

    hey minimag's are awesome
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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Quote Originally Posted by divine View Post
    One that is somewhat small?

    A 6P or smaller, probably an 18650 setup. With <10 lumens of output? Preferrably around 3 lumens.

    Does anyone know of such a setup?
    A cut down Streamlight Twin Task 3AA to accept a single 14670 may fit your needs or using same bulb in 6P with single 18650

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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    I just crammed a WahWang 4die led into a Surefire E1W by way of an FM E series socket. It will drain every last bit of juice from my used 123's and gives just enough light to be useful.

    Just another idea. Best of luck.
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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Quote Originally Posted by fivemega View Post
    A cut down Streamlight Twin Task 3AA to accept a single 14670 may fit your needs or using same bulb in 6P with single 18650
    I'll try it, thanks.
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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigusLightus View Post
    I just crammed a WahWang 4die led into a Surefire E1W by way of an FM E series socket. It will drain every last bit of juice from my used 123's and gives just enough light to be useful.

    Just another idea. Best of luck.
    I want to stay away from LED for this. Thanks for your suggestion, though.
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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Quote Originally Posted by divine View Post
    One that is somewhat small?

    A 6P or smaller, probably an 18650 setup. With <10 lumens of output? Preferrably around 3 lumens.

    Does anyone know of such a setup?
    It's brighter than you are asking for, but how about this:

    Start with a FM 18650 E-body and SF E-head.

    Use a LiFePO4 18650 with a standard SF MN01 lamp.

    The result is 15 lumens, should run for 2+ hours and is smaller than a 6P.

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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    I have all of that except for the E series 18650 body, and that is on its way.

    For some reason I think the stock E1E lamp is brighter than I wanted. I might try it out.

    I'm thinking a 6P or 3P with a Lumensfactory Energy Saving lamp and an AW soft starter is what I'm looking for.
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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Actually, come to think of it, I already use a dim, incan, smaller-than-6P setup every day!

    Don't know how many lumens a #13 gives you, but I do get 7+ hours' runtime on an AW 18650 cell.

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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Quote Originally Posted by lctorana View Post
    Actually, come to think of it, I already use a dim, incan, smaller-than-6P setup every day!

    Don't know how many lumens a #13 gives you, but I do get 7+ hours' runtime on an AW 18650 cell.
    Cool, thanks.

    I searched that thread for #13 and only came up with post #13.
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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Quote Originally Posted by divine View Post
    One that is somewhat small?

    A 6P or smaller, probably an 18650 setup. With <10 lumens of output? Preferrably around 3 lumens.

    Does anyone know of such a setup?
    OK, got it this time.

    Step 1: Buy a $1 1AA incan from ypur local KMart or equivalent. This will have a 1.2V, 3-lumen flange based bulb. The bulb is what you want.

    Step 2: Buy a Hugsby B2 for a host. This takes flange-based bulbs.

    Step 3: Buy a 4/3 A sized NiMH battery - some go up to 4Ah in capacity.

    This will give about 2 lumens for 16 hours, and is the same size as the 6P.

    Do I win $5?

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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Oh wow! A 18650 sized NiMh battery!

    Does anyone but Tenergy make them? I'm not a big fan of Tenergy. I'm going to bet you $10 that no one makes a LSD 4/3 A battery. =\
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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Quote Originally Posted by divine
    Oh wow! A 18650 sized NiMh battery!

    Does anyone but Tenergy make them? I'm not a big fan of Tenergy. I'm going to bet you $10 that no one makes a LSD 4/3 A battery. =\
    Actually, its a 17670-sized cell. You won't get an 18mm cell into a Hugsby B2.

    Here's where I would get one from:
    http://www.radioparts.com.au/ProdVie...NIMH+WITH+TAGS

    Appears to be made by GP.

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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Quote Originally Posted by divine View Post
    Oh wow! A 18650 sized NiMh battery!

    Does anyone but Tenergy make them? I'm not a big fan of Tenergy. I'm going to bet you $10 that no one makes a LSD 4/3 A battery. =\
    Google 4/5A NiMh battery.

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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    I ordered a couple titaniums from Battery Junction. We'll see how it works out.

    http://www.batteryjunction.com/tpeh-t43a3600p.html
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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Divine,

    Would you be willing to go with a 2D sized light? If so, I know there is a regulated setup that runs off 8x AA cells for almost 12 hours, maybe 15 lumens. http://www.flashlightreviews.com/rev..._powerstik.htm
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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullzeyebill View Post
    Google 4/5A NiMh battery.

    Bill
    It's 7/5 A wer're talking about, not 4/5 A.

    A 4/5 A cell is about 40mm long - a common size in NiCad battery packs in the 1980s, whereas the 7/5 A cell is the size of a 17670 cell and is used in 1990s laptops.

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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Quote Originally Posted by leukos View Post
    Divine,

    Would you be willing to go with a 2D sized light? If so, I know there is a regulated setup that runs off 8x AA cells for almost 12 hours, maybe 15 lumens. http://www.flashlightreviews.com/rev..._powerstik.htm
    That's very interesting, I want to try it out!

    But now I still have to find a 3.6 volt low output lamp.
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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bullzeyebill View Post
    Google 4/5A NiMh battery.

    Bill
    Quote Originally Posted by lctorana View Post
    It's 7/5 A wer're talking about, not 4/5 A.

    A 4/5 A cell is about 40mm long - a common size in NiCad battery packs in the 1980s, whereas the 7/5 A cell is the size of a 17670 cell and is used in 1990s laptops.
    Its 4/3A and sometimes they call 7/5A with 17mm diameter and 67mm long.

    Also fat version of these called 4/3AF with 18mm diameter and slightly higher capacity.

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    BatteryStation has Sanyo brand 4/3a in 17mm&18mm from 3800mah to 4500mah. I have some Panasonic 4/3a 3800mah on the way to try in my Surefire 6p with Malkoff m30wf.

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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Quote Originally Posted by divine View Post
    That's very interesting, I want to try it out!

    But now I still have to find a 3.6 volt low output lamp.
    Here's a source for some low voltage, low amp PR based lamps: http://www.servicelighting.com/PR-HP...nt-Light-Bulbs
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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Quote Originally Posted by divine View Post
    Oh wow! A 18650 sized NiMh battery!

    Does anyone but Tenergy make them? I'm not a big fan of Tenergy. I'm going to bet you $10 that no one makes a LSD 4/3 A battery. =\
    The Sanyos are excellent. HR-4/3FAUX are rated at 4500 mAH. I used 9 of those to rebuild a Light&Motion battery pack; the cells live up to their rating. Dang I could have given you 3 of them left over from cell-matching; had no use for them so they finally got tossed just recently.

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    Default Re: Is there a low brightness, long running incan setup?

    Keep it simple . . . .


    A plain ol' 2-D cell flashlight,

    using a PR-6 bulb.


    Twice the run-time of the "normal" bulb ( PR-2 ).

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