M-Zeppelin SF M6 LED mods

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This project started out as a build for fellow member Griff, and evolved into a series of LED mods for the M6.

The heart of the mod is a two-piece heatsink that features full contact with the back of the head, and the front taper of the tube. The LED heatsink is anodized and comes in four LED configurations:

- MZOX-4: Ostar w/ Fraen reflector and cosmetic trim ring, and (3) XRE w/ (2) McR17XR and a McR19XR
- MZP7-3: (3) SSC P7 w/ cut down McR27XRs
- MZXR-5: (5) XRE w/ McR19XRs
- MZXR-7: (7) XRE w/ McR19XRs

All LED sinks have built-in reflector centering seats and LED locating pockets.

The second part of the heatsink is the universal contact which works with any of the LED sinks. It bolts to the LED sink with either 2 or 3 black oxide finish SS Allen bolts depending on the LED pattern. The contact piece is chromate plated for corrosion resistance and conductivity. It has an internal cavity for a board, and completes the circuit with a ground screw for the board and through contact with the taper of the tube. There is a 0.55" contact board with an adjustable (+) terminal.

All the versions use the FM holder loaded with (6) CR123, (6) RCR123, or (3) 17670 depending on the board, LED configuration, and whether or not dimming is desired. The 5 Cree version can run on (6) RCR or CR123s in the stock MB20 holder.

The mod is completely reversible and the light can be returned to stock by removing the module. Parts that are replaced are the reflector, white bearing washer, foam shock cushion, and black cushion support ring.

Alternately the sink can be epoxied into the head, and the reflectors of the Cree and P7 versions epoxied in their seats for a shock-proof mod. For max shock protection, the board can be potted in the cavity, along with potting the LED leads of the Cree and P7 versions in their wireways.

Here are the parts that comprise the various sinks:
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Special thanks go out to Griff for planting the MZ seed, petrev for motivating the MZP7-3 version, and my friend and CNC machinist extraordinaire John of Begell Tool for transforming my prints into these precision parts.

I'll dedicate the following posts to each version as I build them up.

Beamshots:

Outdoor beamshots. ISO200, F4, 3sec, white balance sunshine. Both Cree versions, MZXR-5 and 7 taken on a different night.
L to R:
1) stock M6 HOLA running fully charged M6R
2) MZOX-4 running 6 X RCR123
3) MZP7-3 running 6 X RCR123
4) MZXR-5 running 3 X 17650
5) MZXR-7 running 3 X 17650



Indoor beamshots, ISO200, F4, white balance sunshine. Three exposures: 1/8 sec, 1/30 sec, 1/125 sec.
Same order as above:

< HOLA
< MZOX-4
< MZP7-3
< MZXR-5
< MZXR-7
EDIT 4/30/09: Adding beamshots of a triple MC-E, MZMC-3, with warm JE5 tint and cut McR27S:
< MZMC-3 warm

Lux Readings taken at 1.5m (at 1m my meter was overloaded by the M6 and MZXR-7):
- HOLA: 10,260
- MZOX-4: 5,420
- MZP7-3: 5,370
- MZXR-5: 6,860
- MZXR-7: 9,200
 
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This is Griff's light, the MZOX-4:

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Hardware:
- MZOX-4 heatsink: type II ano LED sink, chromate plated universal contact w/ 0.55" contact board
- Z bin Ostar w/ narrow beam Fraen and cosmetic trim ring
- (3) Cree XRE R2 WD
- (2) McR17XR
- (1) McR19XR
- Blue Shark set at max current - 900 mA
- FM 3 X 17670 holder

Specs:
- All LEDs in series, Vf = 28.6V@350mA, 31.7V@1A
- LED current 900 mA
- Light draws [email protected], [email protected], 1.75A@18V

Light runs on 6 X CR123, or 6 X RCR123. With RCR123s, the over-current protection will likely kick in before low-voltage. I estimate the current protection to kick @ 1.5A when the cells are at approx 3.4V ea. Drive current can be dialed down for longer runtimes with the Shark trimpot, but is set to max brightness per Griff's original request.
 
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MZXR-5

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Hardware:- MZXR-5 heatsink: type II ano LED sink, chromate plated universal contact w/ 0.55" contact board
- (5) Cree XRE R2 WD
- (5) McR19XR
- Shark/Remora
- 3 X 17650 in FM holder, or 6 X CR or RCR123 in stockholder

Specs:
- All LEDs in series, Vf = 15.3V@350mA, 16.5V@900mA
- Regulated drive currents: Lo 110mA, Med 310mA, Hi 850mA
- Light runs on 3 X 17650 in FM holder or 6 X RCR123 in stock holder
- Using 3 X 17650 in FM holder or 6 X 16340 in stock holder, 11.1V, light draws 1.43A on hi
- Using 6 X CR123 in stock holder, 9V, light draws 1.75A
 
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MZXR-7

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Hardware:
- MZXR-7 heatsink: type II ano LED sink, chromate plated universal contact w/ 0.55" contact board
- (7) Cree XRE R2 WD
- (7) McR19XR
- Blue Shark/Remora
- 3 X 17650 in FM holder

Specs:
- All LEDs in series, Vf = 21.0V@350mA, 22.7V@900mA
- Regulated drive currents: Lo 110mA, Med 310mA, Hi 860mA
- Light runs on 3 X 17650 or 6 X CR123 (NOT RCR123) in FM holder
- Using 3 X 17650, 11.1V, light draws 2.05A on hi
- Using 6 X CR123s in FM holder, 18V, light draws 1.19A on hi
 
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MZP7-3

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Hardware:
- MZP7-3 heatsink: type II ano LED sink, chromate plated universal contact w/ 0.55" contact board
- (3) SSC P7 DSXOJ
- (3) Modified McR27XR
- Shark Buck 3A/Remora
- 3 X 18650 Leef M tube

Specs:
- All LEDs in series, Vf = 9.5V@400mA, 9.1V@1A, [email protected]
- Regulated drive currents: Lo 400mA, Med 1A, Hi 2.64A
- Light runs on 3 X 17650 (FM holder), 3 X 18650 (Leef M tube), 6 X CR123 or RCR123 (FM holder).
- With 3 X 17650 or 18650, hi level is not in regulation, approx 2.6A on full charge (12.6V) decreasing to 1.41A @ 11.1V, consider hi level DD.
- Using CR123s, 18V, light draws 1.81A on hi
- Using RCR123s, 22.2V, light draws 1.47A on hi
 
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AMAZING WORK!!

Simply Beautiful!!

I LOVE Griffs new light!!!
I like the offset of the different reflectors...something different.

Any chance of a run of these heatsinks?
I'd be interested in a MZXR-7 Heatsink
 
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Tim, I do plan to run more of these sinks, and will eventually open an interest thread as I need to make at least 20 pcs for the ano/plating to be cost effective.

But right now the sinks have been made to such a perfect fit, that SF production tolerances might come into play and require some custom fitting for each light. Once I build up some more and get a feel for the M6 tolerances I can tweak the dimensions for a more universal hassle-free fit.

These are quite involved to produce, and not cheap. I'm estimating in the neighborhood of $125 for a complete sink kit.

The MZP7-3 version uses modded McR27XRs which I will provide, but figure $18 ea. plus $5 modding fee, or $69 per set.
 

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This is crazy and i love it !!


Will these heatsinks be available for sale anytime soon?


:D


Regards,
Benny
 

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Nice !!! :bow:

Is the whole thing epoxied in the head or is it held in place by the reflectors and the window?

Griff's light looks really ... differrent :D
Nice idea !

bernie
 

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Very cool!

Will that brass bell hanging out the back keep it from screwing onto another M-style body, like a Leef or M4?

Good question Donn, I just checked and it fits like a glove on an M4 body. Not sure about the Leef, but if it has the identical mating cone-shape at the front of the tube it should work.

Nice !!! :bow:

Is the whole thing epoxied in the head or is it held in place by the reflectors and the window?

Griff's light looks really ... differrent :D
Nice idea !

bernie

Bernie, the module will drop out by removing the bezel and lens. I use a bit of compound in the head, but no epoxy. So it is completely reversible if you want to return your light to stock at any time.
 
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...I just checked and it fits like a glove on an M4 body. Not sure about the Leef, but if it has the identical mating cone-shape at the front of the tube it should work.

Excellent! It'll probably fit not only the Leef M tubes, but C, with a C2M adapter as well. That'll mean a 3x18650 tube is possible.
 

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WOW

:twothumbs

Bee-Utiful D-Zines

Too too :cool:

Can't Wait . . . Can NOT Wait

Pete
 

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Great job Dennis! :twothumbs
:poke:Any plans for a 3x MC-E sink?

Freddy, nothing on the drawing board but it sounds like a good idea. I haven't played around with the MC-Es yet, but I do have some coming. Perhaps by the time I make the next run of these sinks I'll have a design. If you have any suggestions for reflectors or design specifics please let me know.
 

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Hi Dennis

You can tell that a whole lot planning and work went into those.

I know that Fraen has some new reflectors made just for the MC-E, I should have some samples on the way and I am working on a US supply for them since Cutter seems to be one of the only ones stocking them. Arrow may order them since they are stocking as good of selections of MC-E of anyone. I orders some M bin a couple of days ago and yet they still had some C, H, J, bin

After buying an M4 and M6 fairly recently you could count me in if you reproduce these again.

Super work.

Dave
 

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Yes Dennis, beautiful work. I'm not quite sure what to derive of the first post's intentions. Are they simply to inform of some upcoming builds for current customers?:sssh: Or are they to show off your creations that will ultimately end up remaining in your posession as part of a LZ collection?:sigh: Or perhaps they'll be sold off one at a time as they're completed?:naughty: Sorry if I'm rambling, just want to get a better handle on things. Again, I'm very impressed by all I've seen so far.....and congrats griff! :huh:
 
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