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    Default CPF's Folding @ Home team-let's help cure diseases!

    What is protein folding and how is folding linked to disease?
    Proteins are biology's workhorses -- its "nanomachines." Before proteins can carry out these important functions, they assemble themselves, or "fold." The process of protein folding, while critical and fundamental to virtually all of biology, in many ways remains a mystery.

    Moreover, when proteins do not fold correctly (i.e. "misfold"), there can be serious consequences, including many well known diseases, such as Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers and cancer-related syndromes.

    You can help by simply running a piece of software.
    Folding@home is a distributed computing project -- people from throughout the world download and run software to band together to make one of the largest supercomputers in the world. Every computer takes the project closer to our goals. Folding@home uses novel computational methods coupled to distributed computing, to simulate problems millions of times more challenging than previously achieved.
    Let's get CPF chugging away on this again. Currently we are 497'th place in contributions, we can do better.
    CPF team# 32102 and your CPF screen name.

    Basic software download page:
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Download

    Hi performance software page for those with quads and higher liner video cards. ATi 2XXX, 3XXX and 4XXX. Nvidia 8XXX, 9XXX and 200 series video cards.
    http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther

    If ya need help the Stanford site and FAQ's cover it well. For additional support there is also the Stanford F@H forums:

    http://foldingforum.org/

    CPF stats page from Extreme Overclocking site :
    http://folding.extremeoverclocking.c...php?s=&t=32102

    Stanfords CPF stat page:
    http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/...qtype=teampage

    X-CPU's stat page:
    http://www.xcpus.com/Folding/Folding...D=32102&page=1

    Click any of the individual members for detailed Folding info.
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    Default Re: Join CPF's Folding @ Home team

    Unfortunately F@H doesn't support GPU folding under linux very well, but I'll see what I can get wine to do one of these days. I'll keep the CPF team in mind once I get things set up... I'm in the process of completely obliterating windows from all of my machines. I'm just so tired of bluescreens, incompatabilities, bloatware, etc.
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    The CPU folding is quite nice on Linux. Wish they would do something for those with nicer GPU's under Linux. F@H has had a good share of growing pains and still does...seems to improve with each generation. I've been through the frustrations myself. We'll keep a spot open for ya.

    I started Folding on an AMD Socket-A 1GHz box with Win 98. Seems like ages since then.
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    I did a lot of SETI back in the day starting out on an AMD K6II. I've done some F@H in the past too but forgot about that old account long ago. I run a few projects in under the Bionic manager now but have been intermittent in my participation... especially after LHC went down.
    But hey, if I ever win the lotto I'll build a PS3 data crunching farm (likely cheaper and les power hungry than a few GPU enabled boxes) and get CPF rising up in the ranks.
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    Default Re: CPF's Folding @ Home team-let's help cure diseases!

    Some videos:

    Sony PS3:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...%40+home&hl=en

    Interview with Prof. Pande on F@H:
    http://video.google.com/videosearch?...&hl=en&tab=wv#

    GPU Folding is quite quick these days. My Nvidia 8800GT cards would complete a work unit depending on complexity from 2 hours to 8 hours. The larger the protein to fold, the more points. If you have any of the higher line Nvidia 200 series, these cards scream with F@H projects. I encourage any of you who leave your system running 24/7, consider donating the spare cycles to medical research.

    Tony Farqué built this folding rig for two family members who have Huntington's disease.

    http://atlasfolding.com/

    It's sad to learn what these disease do to people. I know I've been pushing this a bit...having family members and friends with the diseases that are being researched by Stanford motivates me.
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    Default Re: CPF's Folding @ Home team-let's help cure diseases!

    been using f@h for a while. just changed over to the CPF team!

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    Thanks for joining up!

    We moved up 2 spots in the last 24 hours, now at position 491.
    Mike

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    i give up trying to install the smp client on my vista dual core machine it keeps saying im missing this when i try to start it mpich2mpi.dll
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    may got it now there was 2 choices for the smp client in linux guess the first one i downloaded didnt work then i downloaded the exe it didnt work either but i downloaded it again and the exe worked not sure what was wrong.my slow pc may not even be worth messing with
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    Quote Originally Posted by raggie33 View Post
    i give up trying to install the smp client on my vista dual core machine it keeps saying im missing this when i try to start it mpich2mpi.dll
    Are these located in the same working directory as the other client files?

    This is the file listing from my F@H SMP folder: (17 files)

    client.cfg
    FahCore_78.exe
    Folding@home-Win32-X86 (executable file)
    install.bat
    mpich2.dll
    mpich2mpi.dll
    mpich2shm.dll
    mpich2shmp.dll
    mpiexec.exe
    MyFolding.html
    readme.rtf
    smpd.exe
    UILANG1.UDB
    Uninstall107B.DAT
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    I'm wondering how to easily get this working on my Kubuntu Linux machine.

    I used Adept to install Kfolding, but it doesn't seem to be starting, nor can I find it by searching in the 'K' menu. I'd really like to get this working on my laptop (w/Kubuntu) that has mostly been running 24/7 lately.

    I already have F@H running on my tower (w/Windows) which has been running 24/7 for many years, but would like to get it going on my laptop as well now..

    (Using CPF team # as of ~2 weeks ago now.)
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    not sure i gave up on the firstclient and the one im useing now workso
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoggy View Post
    I'm wondering how to easily get this working on my Kubuntu Linux machine.

    (Using CPF team # as of ~2 weeks ago now.)


    Hope you can get it configured. I'm not familiar with Linux...maybe something here might help in getting it dialed in:

    http://foldingforum.org/viewforum.ph...99b209425d8b0a
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    Quote Originally Posted by raggie33 View Post
    not sure i gave up on the firstclient and the one im useing now workso
    saw your points contribution.

    We're coming along. If we can nudge changsn a bit. He had 32 processors in the game and put up a run to almost 10K per day last week. I know it's costly and hot with that much going though.
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    ps man i sure like them vid cards above i know a system with 3 of em in tri sli.i sadly only have a 7600 gt but i took it out and am useing onbaord to save money i dont game on my pc but would if i had them type card but id fold to they fold crazy fast
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    They nudged the points up for projects 5902-4, from 1680 points to 1888 points per project.

    Been reading a bunch of F@H stuffs...if I recall right, the dual 295 cards in that rig above is turning out ~250K points a day. He stated he pays about $540 a year on electricity to run that from his business. (Business utility is half of residential rates so any of us running that from our house would top $1K not to mention what it would require to cool.)

    I'll do what I can within my boundaries. My immediate plans for a new pooter are shelved after some unforeseen expenses. Just when I thought there was a bit of extra $$ to play with...something important breaks.

    Raggie, I thought you might have got my old 7300 or 7600 vid cards...almost.
    http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/sho...d.php?t=182882

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    nah got m,y 7600 gt at frys when they had a crazy sale my next card will be one biult on a 45nm gpu when they come out and ill get the lowend card in that videocard class
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    Quote Originally Posted by raggie33 View Post
    not sure i gave up on the firstclient and the one im useing now workso
    Are you talking about a Linux client here? If so, let me know which worked for you. PLEASE.

    I've been trying to install according to the directions on 'Stanford' and looked at the other suggestions here.. I still can't get the 'effin crap to work!

    F**k, I'm so 'effin mad now! It's becoming a G** D*** quest to get this 'Effin GD thing working with Kubuntu Linux now!!

    Linux is supposedly becoming more popular, so why is this stupid little thing causing so much trouble!??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoggy View Post
    Are you talking about a Linux client here? If so, let me know which worked for you. PLEASE.

    I've been trying to install according to the directions on 'Stanford' and looked at the other suggestions here.. I still can't get the 'effin crap to work!

    F**k, I'm so 'effin mad now! It's becoming a G** D*** quest to get this 'Effin GD thing working with Kubuntu Linux now!!

    Linux is supposedly becoming more popular, so why is this stupid little thing causing so much trouble!??
    sorry windows here may try linux in a few days
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    Ok, I have the 'High-Performence nVidia GPU' client running on my machine. Getting it to work was a pain because nVidia doesn't actually support the 570M with continued updates, and the OEM driver didn't support CUDA, but a modified INF and unsigned driver was enough to fix that!

    Seem like this unit is going to take somewhere around 10-14 hours. How does that compare to most people's expereince?

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    Thanks for joning the team AuroraAlpha.

    Not sure how the laptop graphics work with F@H. I would defer to the Nvidia section at Stanford:
    http://foldingforum.org/viewforum.ph...1823be5ec02f1e

    Hoggy-

    Maybe one of these might have the necessary tidbits

    http://www.hardfolding.com/index.php...2&id=25&show=1
    http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/05/...ebian-rhel-fc/
    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FoldingAtHome

    Hope you get it ironed out.
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    using the linux smp client now used Stanford instructions had some issues with root darn ubuntu stinks they dont let ya log in as root its folding now but slowly
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    Thanks guys! I have it working under Kubuntu now!
    Still only command line, and still manually, but at least it's running(FINALLY! ). I'll be looking into making it more automated now.. (The Kfolding GUI package from the Ubuntu repositories is still nowhere to be found - even though Adept says it's installed. (Even tried reinstalling it a couple times.))

    However, unlike the Windows version, there seems to be no way to control the percentage of processor(s) being used - making it hard on a laptop machine. My laptop's secondary fan is on almost all the time when I run it.
    Soooo... I'll likely only run it when I'm right in front of this computer, so I can monitor it.


    Raggie33 - does the Linux smp client allow you to set percentages for your CPU's? My laptop is a 3.2 GHz Pentium 4 with HT(HyperThreading), so I'm not sure if it's capable of using the 'FULL' SMP stuff.. I don't know if HT is considered to be true SMP??
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    i think smp means more then one cpu or like a dual core cpu or quad core but im confused as hect .in the advanced options i think it let me choose between idle and low percentage
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    Yes, SMP means more than 1 CPU - it stands for Symmetric Multi-Processing. Those dual and quad cores are what I believe/understand to be real SMP machines.

    But don't be ashamed at not knowing for sure! Technology is growing so fast these days it's too easy not to know/care about various things.
    Hell, I gave up on understanding memory modules between DDR1,2, and 3 - which I think 3 just came out.. Do I know the difference between them all - hell no! I figure: Why bother anymore, it'll all change again soon anyways.

    But yeah - the regular Linux client allowed me to choose between idle/low also.
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    Happy you have it figured out. Windoze is a fairly painless install and run process by comparison. Those running Linux on multi core CPU's, the work units will complete faster.

    Welcome z96cobra to CPF's F@H team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RA40 View Post
    Happy you have it figured out. Windoze is a fairly painless install and run process by comparison. Those running Linux on multi core CPU's, the work units will complete faster.

    Welcome z96cobra to CPF's F@H team.
    how many points per day do the high end nvida cards get per day per card like a gtx280.i entered a contest to win one i know i wont win or doubt i will but i wonder how many points they get per day
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    I finished one of the work units, but I think my system is running at a painfully inefficent rate because it took something like 60 hours. Its a QuatroFX 570M (Also known as a 8600GT with different drivers). Should it be that slow? Might try the screensaver one, but the GPU as it is going won't be practical.

    I have an old desktop with the short lived Pentium D (two single core P4's on one chip, but with a smaller transitor size). Does Folding@Home use integer operations or floating point? If its the first then the system will be useless, but the second is actually not that bad compared to most modern Core2 units. Only problem is that running it 24/7 is still around $200 a year in electricity, which might be a little much for what I assume not much performence.

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    Default Re: CPF's Folding @ Home team-let's help cure diseases!

    The 8600 level GPU has 64 stream processors, the more the better like the GTX 280/5 series with 240 stream processors. When I was running the 8600GT card, the GPU work units at the time took about 8-9 hours to complete. These new 5902-4 are huge so the 8600 will struggle with those. Stanford usually assigns appropriate WU's for lower level cards to crunch on. Do you know which project it was working on?

    As for the CPU side, the regular work units will not pose a problem for the old Pentium chips. The SMP would be too much. Might be a bit slow to the new cores out there but I don't know how long it will take to crunch through. If you are running the basic console client you can check the step times for each 1% completed. This will give you an idea. On a laptop, this is a pretty strenuous workout.

    Thanks for helping the CPF team, every bit counts.
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    Was on my own team, but just switched to CPF.

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