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    Default Mag623 build

    Hello everyone!

    I have been searching/learning from these forums for months now.Though, only a few weeks ago did I sign up for an account because it looked like most of the good parts are only ordered through these great forums . I am very new to flashlight modding and was wondering if anyone could help me.
    So far, I have tried the Terralux 5ex drop-in for the 2XAA maglite, the Terralux 300M for the 4D, the malkoff drop-in for the 4 D maglite, and then I jumped into making a 2D MagRop using eneloops. Then, I bought a NiteCore EZ AA to compare. It's really fun and very addicting doing this kind of thing. I can't believe I have already spent so much money!
    However, after reading more into other types of maglite mods, I noticed one called the Mag623. This is something that IMO looks awesome. I understand that it's probably not practical due to the short run times but I was looking for something that would "wow" the friends =). The MagRop is cool, but I guess it just isn't "wow" enough for the friends .
    In any case, I have a list of things that I "think" I would need for this build. I am not sure if this is all I need or if maybe there is something better.
    I would appreciate any help or suggestions anyone could give

    1. 1X cool looking 2D silver maglite "tri-bore" finned head: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=156080
    2. OSRAM 64623: http://shop.ebay.com/items/?_nkw=osr...4223&_osacat=0
    3. AW Driver: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=177316
    4. Battery Charger: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=330342935612
    5. Boro Lens: Have this from Rop
    6. Alum Reflector: Have this from Rop

    In addition to the above, I was looking into some battery packs to power this thing. I found numerous links to LuxLuthers battery packs, though, when I finally made the decision to try to build one of these things I saw that the thread was closed. Would anyone know of anyone else selling battery packs for the Mag623?
    If not, it’s ok, I will attempt to build a pack using the elite 1500's. If anyone knows of a better way for the battery pack build or the whole build in general that would be awesome.
    I have searched the forums but it looks like most of the information is back in 2008? I could be wrong of course but I just wanted to make sure that the information back then is still current. I also just wanted to say …… these forums are AWESOME!!!

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    Default Re: Mag623 build

    You might need to check your reflector's bulb opening. The 64623 is pretty large. IIRC, it needs a 12mm bulb opening. There are also other threads about this light, try searching for them.

    Wicked Lasers makes a pack, but from the price and people's reports about how bad their "Torch" is in general, I wouldn't recommend it. You could always go for a 3D, 4 of AW's IMR26500s, some pvc/cardboard and a good Li ion charger. You'll gain a few more minutes of runtime and a couple hundred extra lumens.

    Oh, and
    Awesome! I just got the Luxoulree Z4 bin XD-Q! Wait... are you saying they released the Z5 bin the day after I bought it?

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    Cool, thanks!
    I will look into that option.


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    I can only speak for my own experience with Wicked Laser's battery pack. I've had it for a couple months now for my 623 and to date, it works fine. I've charged the pack probably 5-6 times and it works like it should. That being said the Incan authorities here on the forum recommend the 13th cell for the 623 to really shine bright. Also you might want to look into JimmyM's hot wire regulator.

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    Thanks!
    I looked into the wicked battery pack and for the price it looks great =).
    I guess I got a bit more research to do.... Thank you for the heads up on the reflector opening.... Cant believe I missed that one

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    Now with PWM regulation mine and Alan's, the battery pack voltage is not quite so important any more. The more cells you can squeeze into the light, the better. It will add runtime while not over driving the bulb beyond the voltage you set.
    I see above that the 13th cell was mentioned. As a previous owner of a Mag623 with the 13th cell. It's a real component in the WOW factor area. There was a post here somewhere (sorry I can't find it immediately) comparing a 12 cell Mag623 to a 13 cell version. BIG difference.
    With PWM regulation you can do...
    Elite1500 2/3A
    3x6 (18 cells) in a 3D
    3x8 (24 cells) in a 4D

    A no-boring option may be...
    Elite1700 AA
    3x6 (18 cells) in a 5D
    3x7 (21 cells) in a 6D

    The Lithium options opened up by AWs 26500 and 26650 cells are...
    4x26500s (only 14.8V)
    5x26500s May fit in a 4D with a short tail spring
    5x26650s in a 5D

    The bottom line, however, is that to get more than 8 minutes of run time with the voltage in the WOW range (15.2V), you need to use more cells and PWM regulation.

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    hmm...
    Now with that option, it makes me think...
    I should really decide on what size host I should use.
    The 2D mag was most attractive but now I have to think to maybe get something bigger.....

    Thanks for the info!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by supasizefries View Post
    I can only speak for my own experience with Wicked Laser's battery pack. I've had it for a couple months now for my 623 and to date, it works fine. I've charged the pack probably 5-6 times and it works like it should. That being said the Incan authorities here on the forum recommend the 13th cell for the 623 to really shine bright. Also you might want to look into JimmyM's hot wire regulator.
    Im trying to weigh my options with the batteries.
    Just a quick question, would this battery pack fit in a stock mag host? Or would I need it tri-bored?

    That's it, ipfreeze. Drink the Kool-aid. Bigger, brighter, longer lasting.
    That's why we're all here.
    lol, yes, I know what you mean ..... My wife will be taking over our bank account soon Thank you for all the info!

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    Default Re: Mag623 build

    4 x IMR26500s fit in a 3D Mag.

    Advantages I see:
    No boring required.
    Each of the 4 cells can be utilized for other lights
    Easy to replace a cell if needed
    More capacity than NiMh Elites 2/3AA or AA cells.
    "LSD Like" characteristics of the IMR cells.

    I can't see a difference in output when comparing 623 bulb on 15.6V 2/3AA Elite Nimh pack to 623 on 4 x IMR26500.

    The Elite NiMh packs in tri configuration do require triboring the Mag host.
    See Fivemegas example here:
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=197038

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