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    Default my new 2250 lumens pocket size ssr-90 5 modes flashlight

    on the mte sf-15


    with the 2250 lumens ssr-90:


    ------------------------ssc p7,--- ssr-90,----- ssr-50,--cree XR-E ez900 q5




    with 5 modes

    q1: power mosfet t70n03( 71 amp max)
    ic1: microcontroler 12f629 http://talkingelectronics.com/projec...12F629-P1.html
    d2: protection led
    d1: protection ic1


    and 71 amp power mosfet transistor t70n03





    more powerfull than 2xp7

    mte sf-22 p7------------------------------------mte sf-15 5 modes SSR-90

    at very hight current powered with 1x aw18650 imr (16 amp max):

    10 amp

    I use it in mid or low mode and only when I really need many many light I use the high mode because its very very hot flashlight
    40ºc 45 seconds
    50ºc 2 min
    55ºc 3 min
    Last edited by moviles; 08-13-2009 at 04:55 AM.
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    Default Re: my new 2250 lumens pocket size ssr-90 5 modes flashlight

    At 9A at the tail in a Mag 1D hosts with Britelumens heatsink and tons of cooling paste Nailbender got some real out the front lumen readings.


    1455 instant peak out the front lumens at 9A, but it was down to 750 lumens after 3 minutes.


    Also,
    A Mac Custom 3 P7 Mag build with 2 AW li-0n C cells was tested at the San Jose, CA local meet by MrGman. It was 1150 out the front with 3 P7's. So, as you can imagine 2 P7's will create soo much heat that you loose the potential lumens ASAP. If you get 1000 out the front from 2 P7's regardless of the current and total watts you got extremely lucky.

    So, of course 1400 instant peak lumens will look brighter than 1000ish


    Good build, but this SST-90 has already been tested in a real IS Sphere and while they do make 40watts of power, the out the front lumens are lost due to heat.


    This SST-90 was driven at 5A by Nailbender and he got 1200 out the front lumens steady, with no noticeable drop... It looks like less is more with these.
    Last edited by bigchelis; 08-07-2009 at 11:22 AM.
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    Default Re: my new 2250 lumens pocket size ssr-90 5 modes flashlight

    at least you're using IMRs..

    heatsinking man..

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    more images
    custom flashlights:2 x MTE sf-15 SST-90@10amp,,romisen rc-g2 q5bin ez900chip aspherical and sku7882 @2.75 amp 18000 lux@1m, tiablo collimator with q5 ez900 chip @2.95 amp 72000 lux@1m. pc: e8400/gtx 285

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigchelis View Post
    At 9A at the tail in a Mag 1D hosts with Britelumens heatsink and tons of cooling paste Nailbender got some real out the front lumen readings.


    1455 instant peak out the front lumens at 9A, but it was down to 750 lumens after 3 minutes.


    Also,
    A Mac Custom 3 P7 Mag build with 2 AW li-0n C cells was tested at the San Jose, CA local meet by MrGman. It was 1150 out the front with 3 P7's. So, as you can imagine 2 P7's will create soo much heat that you loose the potential lumens ASAP. If you get 1000 out the front from 2 P7's regardless of the current and total watts you got extremely lucky.

    So, of course 1400 instant peak lumens will look brighter than 1000ish


    This SST-90 was driven at 5A by Nailbender and he got 1200 out the front lumens steady, with no noticeable drop... It looks like less is more with these.
    true.
    I have luxometer and my new sst-90 flashlight in luxes in a closed room its powerfull like my tactical hid 24w 1400 lumens

    and my new sst-90 flashlight its more powerfull in luxes in a closed room than :
    1 p7 bin D flashlight @ 3.9 amp + 1 p7 bin D flashlight @4.65 amp + 1 XR-E ez1000 bin q5 flashlight @ 1.3 amp
    Last edited by moviles; 08-07-2009 at 12:40 PM.
    custom flashlights:2 x MTE sf-15 SST-90@10amp,,romisen rc-g2 q5bin ez900chip aspherical and sku7882 @2.75 amp 18000 lux@1m, tiablo collimator with q5 ez900 chip @2.95 amp 72000 lux@1m. pc: e8400/gtx 285

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    Default Re: my new 2250 lumens pocket size ssr-90 5 modes flashlight

    Great job,

    How do you get 10A? Other has tried DD using AW IMR 18650 & get <3A?

    is this a boost driver?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ma_sha1 View Post
    Great job,

    How do you get 10A? Other has tried DD using AW IMR 18650 & get <3A?

    is this a boost driver?
    they are necessary thick wires



    and the springs have high resistence. I fixed it



    10 amp its direct drect drive bypassing the mosfet .
    with the 5 modes circuit current draw its only 7.5-8 amp because the mosfet trasistor has 0.1v drain-source (-0.1v with the 5 modes circuit)......sorry for my bad english
    Last edited by moviles; 08-07-2009 at 01:45 PM.
    custom flashlights:2 x MTE sf-15 SST-90@10amp,,romisen rc-g2 q5bin ez900chip aspherical and sku7882 @2.75 amp 18000 lux@1m, tiablo collimator with q5 ez900 chip @2.95 amp 72000 lux@1m. pc: e8400/gtx 285

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    finished too my ssr-50 flashlight its direct drived , current draw arround 5 amp the spot its really nice .
    but its only a litle bit more powerful than my other p7 flashlight @4.65 amp

    the spot its much better with ssr-50
    aurora c6 p7 bin D @4.65 amp:1400 lux @1m
    aurora c6 ssr-50 @5 amp:4200 lux@ 1m

    but with tiablo collimator(aspherical) :
    ssr50 @5 amp:22000 lux@1m
    XR-E ez900 q5 @2.95 amp:72000 lux@1m






    really great spot but only a litle bit more powerful than p7

    I like much more the great and powerful SSR-90, I really love it
    Last edited by moviles; 08-08-2009 at 05:09 PM.
    custom flashlights:2 x MTE sf-15 SST-90@10amp,,romisen rc-g2 q5bin ez900chip aspherical and sku7882 @2.75 amp 18000 lux@1m, tiablo collimator with q5 ez900 chip @2.95 amp 72000 lux@1m. pc: e8400/gtx 285

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    I saw another post of yours where everyone kept telling you you can't beat physics, blah, blah, blah. It's a good thing you didn't listen. Very nice project.


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    Awesome job glad someone got the juice to them.

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    Default Re: my new 2250 lumens pocket size ssr-90 5 modes flashlight

    Quote Originally Posted by moviles View Post
    really great spot but only a litle bit more powerful than p7

    I like much more the great and powerful SSR-90, I really love it
    What's the sst led bin ?
    Last edited by vincebdx; 08-08-2009 at 03:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincebdx View Post
    What's the sst led bin ?
    my SSR-50 are evaluation module maybe before bins..... unknow bin



    but maybe too can be low bin:



    my SSR-50 @5 amp its only a litle bit more powerfull than my p7 bin D flashlight @ 4.65 amp.

    but my SSR-50 @5 amp its much* powerful than some other flashlights with p7 bin D @2.8-3 amp

    * arround 10-20 % more powerful

    the spot of the SSR-50 its nice with small reflector (1 inch) maybe with big reflector the spot can be really really nice
    Last edited by moviles; 08-08-2009 at 05:10 PM.
    custom flashlights:2 x MTE sf-15 SST-90@10amp,,romisen rc-g2 q5bin ez900chip aspherical and sku7882 @2.75 amp 18000 lux@1m, tiablo collimator with q5 ez900 chip @2.95 amp 72000 lux@1m. pc: e8400/gtx 285

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    Default Re: my new 2250 lumens pocket size ssr-90 5 modes flashlight

    Great job my friend!!

    Not the best body where you can put a beast like SSR-90 but nice, very nice....

    Thanks for show this!!
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    Great Job moviles!!

    Definitely a first for this new LED! I can't wait to see all of the new projects you inspire.

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    Default Re: my new 2250 lumens pocket size ssr-90 5 modes flashlight

    moviles,
    what are you driving the -50 with? you said direct drive, please post as many details as you can...
    Last edited by Linger; 08-09-2009 at 02:51 PM.
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    Default Re: my new 2250 lumens pocket size ssr-90 5 modes flashlight

    I think to really get the most from the SST-90 it is going to need a nice heat pipe or some active cooling to control the drop. I don't think that a Mag body is going to be a good fit for the SST-90, it is going to need to be something larger. I say that this light should be built around the heat management and not the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by linger View Post
    moviles,
    what are you driving it with? you said direct drive, please post as many details as you can...
    I use a 5 mode driver from my mte sf-15 (the mte sf-22 has the same driver)

    the power mosfet of this driver can draw 71 amp with heatsink

    the power consumption of the mosfet at 9 amp its only :0.1v (v drain-source) x 9 amp = 0.9w

    this mosfet its very big:
    power mosfet transistor t70n03





    q1: power mosfet t70n03( 71 amp max)
    ic1: microcontroler 12f629 http://talkingelectronics.com/projec...12F629-P1.html
    d2: protection led
    d1: protection ic1

    with this 5 mode driver current draw in high mode its only 7.5-8.2 amp because v drain-source its 0.1v (-0.1v with the driver)


    7.5-8.2 amp with the aw18650 imr at 4.2v full chargued







    I tested too it direct drived bypassing the mosfet

    direct dived more than 10 amp with the aw 18650 imr full chargued (4.2v)
    Last edited by moviles; 08-08-2009 at 12:24 PM.
    custom flashlights:2 x MTE sf-15 SST-90@10amp,,romisen rc-g2 q5bin ez900chip aspherical and sku7882 @2.75 amp 18000 lux@1m, tiablo collimator with q5 ez900 chip @2.95 amp 72000 lux@1m. pc: e8400/gtx 285

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    Default Re: my new 2250 lumens pocket size ssr-90 5 modes flashlight

    Are your amperage readings different if you use the wires and probes that came with your meter instead of the thick wires you are using?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moviles View Post
    finished too my ssr-50 flashlight its direct drived , current draw arround 5 amp the spot its really nice .
    Thanx for the reply, sorry I meant the ssr-50. You said you direct drive the -50, can you please say what cell you're using, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kz1000s1 View Post
    Are your amperage readings different if you use the wires and probes that came with your meter instead of the thick wires you are using?
    yes. only 1-3 amp in high with the standard wires( ssr-90)
    Last edited by moviles; 08-08-2009 at 03:38 PM.
    custom flashlights:2 x MTE sf-15 SST-90@10amp,,romisen rc-g2 q5bin ez900chip aspherical and sku7882 @2.75 amp 18000 lux@1m, tiablo collimator with q5 ez900 chip @2.95 amp 72000 lux@1m. pc: e8400/gtx 285

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    Default Re: my new 2250 lumens pocket size ssr-90 5 modes flashlight

    Man, that is a lot of current - nice build

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    Nice job man well done to get this thing going in such a small size.

    Thankyou for the pic chip link also

    -Dan

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    Quote Originally Posted by moviles View Post
    I use a 5 mode driver from my mte sf-15 (the mte sf-22 has the same driver)

    the power mosfet of this driver can draw 71 amp with heatsink

    the power consumption of the mosfet at 9 amp its only :0.1v (v drain-source) x 9 amp = 0.9w

    this mosfet its very big:
    power mosfet transistor t70n03


    q1: power mosfet t70n03( 71 amp max)
    ic1: microcontroler 12f629 http://talkingelectronics.com/projec...12F629-P1.html
    d2: protection led
    d1: protection ic1

    with this 5 mode driver current draw in high mode its only 7.5-8.2 amp because v drain-source its 0.1v (-0.1v with the driver)


    7.5-8.2 amp with the aw18650 imr at 4.2v full chargued


    I tested too it direct drived bypassing the mosfet

    direct dived more than 10 amp with the aw 18650 imr full chargued (4.2v)
    I wonder if I could ask a few questions about your driver mod? You upgraded the MOSFET to take the greater power requirements of the SST-90. Was that the only component that needed changing? I'm guessing that means you had to change the programming of the pic controller for the SST-90 to draw more current. Could you give some details on what was changed in the code?


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    Default Re: my new 2250 lumens pocket size ssr-90 5 modes flashlight

    Better yet, do you have a spare driver to sell?? Let me know.

    Thanks!
    AlexGT

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    Very nice mod...how about some outdoorbeamshots?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Combs View Post
    I wonder if I could ask a few questions about your driver mod? You upgraded the MOSFET to take the greater power requirements of the SST-90. Was that the only component that needed changing? I'm guessing that means you had to change the programming of the pic controller for the SST-90 to draw more current. Could you give some details on what was changed in the code?
    Quote Originally Posted by AlexGT View Post
    Better yet, do you have a spare driver to sell?? Let me know.

    Thanks!
    AlexGT
    I have only analyzed the circuit of the mte sf-15 I have not modified it

    the mte sf-22 have the same circuit

    change the programming of the pic controller for the SST-90 to draw more current its not necesary. at 4.2v(battery full chargued) with ssc p7 current draw its arround 3.5-3.9 amp and with sst-90 current draw its 7.5-8.2 amp

    this mod is very very cheap and easy , in mid is very brilliant and efficient . and in high are really really powerful

    options if you want make it:
    with my 5 modes driver with power mosfet:
    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.22567 ( its 5 modes not 4)
    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.22574 (not good build quality, the sf-15 its better)
    is not a boost driver (only more than 8 amp the first minutes)


    or if you want 10 amp this model its direct drived in high mode:
    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15739
    but in mid mode have a resistor (dont have driver) low efficiency
    Last edited by moviles; 08-10-2009 at 09:23 AM.
    custom flashlights:2 x MTE sf-15 SST-90@10amp,,romisen rc-g2 q5bin ez900chip aspherical and sku7882 @2.75 amp 18000 lux@1m, tiablo collimator with q5 ez900 chip @2.95 amp 72000 lux@1m. pc: e8400/gtx 285

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    Quote Originally Posted by linger View Post
    Thanx for the reply, sorry I meant the ssr-50. You said you direct drive the -50, can you please say what cell you're using, etc.
    my SSR-50 flashlight its direct drived with aw 18650 imr current draw its 5.3 amp with the battery at 4.2v (full chargued).....the spot its really nice also with small reflector .but its only a little little little bit more powerfull than ssc p7 bin D @ 4.65 amp
    Last edited by moviles; 08-10-2009 at 08:18 AM.
    custom flashlights:2 x MTE sf-15 SST-90@10amp,,romisen rc-g2 q5bin ez900chip aspherical and sku7882 @2.75 amp 18000 lux@1m, tiablo collimator with q5 ez900 chip @2.95 amp 72000 lux@1m. pc: e8400/gtx 285

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan1million View Post
    Nice job man well done to get this thing going in such a small size.

    Thankyou for the pic chip link also

    -Dan
    I love the size of my new SST-90 flashlight is equal of powerful in luxes in a closed room than my 24w HID and more powerfull than 2 p7 flashlights, and really small compared with the hid 24w









    with lights of the room on:

    and HID after 2 minutes runtime(at 100%)


    but HID its more thrower(the reflector of my sst-90 flashlight its small compared with the reflector of the hid 24w)
    Last edited by moviles; 08-10-2009 at 09:41 AM.
    custom flashlights:2 x MTE sf-15 SST-90@10amp,,romisen rc-g2 q5bin ez900chip aspherical and sku7882 @2.75 amp 18000 lux@1m, tiablo collimator with q5 ez900 chip @2.95 amp 72000 lux@1m. pc: e8400/gtx 285

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    Default Re: my new 2250 lumens pocket size ssr-90 5 modes flashlight

    So Moviles, you have the SF-15 driver plain stock as it comes from DX and you only used thicker wires to the SST-90 led? Right?

    AlexGT

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    Quote Originally Posted by moviles View Post
    change the programming of the pic controller for the SST-90 to draw more current its not necesary. at 4.2v(battery full chargued) with ssc p7 current draw its arround 3.5-3.9 amp and with sst-90 current draw its 7.5-8.2 amp
    Thank you for the additional info. I didn't realize you hadn't changed the MOSFET on the regulator. I incorrectly assumed from the link on the pic controller and the MOSFET specs you were basically saying, "this is the road if you care to go down it." My mistake.

    So if I'm understanding this correctly now, it's not a regulator at all. It's a pwm dimmer like TaskLED's popular D2Flex. Essentially a direct drive circuit at full power minus whatever minimal voltage drop there is from the MOSFET's internal resistance or RDS(on) value of 6.6 m-ohm. I already have a couple of AW's IMR 18650's. I'll have to get an SF-15 and an SSR-90 to do a little experimenting.


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