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    Default DIY Mini Mag Mod Guide

    Ok here we go , I dont know if there is a simpler mod , but the idea here is both : To be cheap , and to be simple .

    You can use any LED that will fit , Ive used a Cree XR-E Q5 , because its a mature LED and its flexible and can take some abuse .

    So for the most basic part of this mod , you need the LED [ 15mm or smaller ] , some thermal epoxy , or Devcon , a soldering iron , and the odd file ..

    For the first part , I will show you how to install the Q5 ..



    First things first , dis assemble the light ..

    Use a flat head screw driver to separate the two part plastic assembly that the bulb goes into ,



    This is what were after ,



    Pull out the negative tab



    We then feed into the positive tab some wire , you can do this without soldering , but I would strip both ends of the wire first when you have worked out the correct length



    Now we must work out negative and positive for the top part .. I cut in some slots and a grove for the positive wire ..


    Here you can see from the other side , and in this picture I have glued on the LED already .. [ When gluing , do your best to center it ]


    After the led is glued in , we solder on the negative wire , I hope these pictures explain it .







    Here I am test fitting before doing any wiring ...





    When the positive wire is in place , feed the bottom assembly into the body , and use some AA's to keep it in place , then lay the wire so it runs in the grove when you snap the top part in place ..

    Then feed it to the positive tab on the LED and solder ...





    And before I forget , file the anodizing of the face of the body so the negative wire can complete the circuit .. Also this gives us our twist on of .


    Ok so Ive done the pictures , now ill try and explain it without having to worry about pasting pictures ..

    1. Dis assemble the light ..
    2. Pull apart the two part bulb holder
    3. Remove the negative tab from the bottom one
    4. Attach wire to remaining positive tab in bottom assembly
    5. Glue LED to top assembly
    6. Cut 3 slots + Grove for positive wire
    7. Attach the negative wire to LED and feed it through the slot and around the base of the assembly and back up through the middle slot
    8. File the anodizing of the front of the body
    9. Assemble the two part assembly feeding the wire along the grove and then to the positive tab on the led
    10 . Now you can test to make sure it works , just push the led down and it should turn on ..
    11. You need to increase the size of the hole in the reflector to allow it to easily slip over the lens+retaining ring ..
    Once thats done correctly [ Dont allow any binding , it must be a lose fit ]
    You have a moded mini mag ...

    Remember , to be aware of negative and positive on the LED ..
    Fit and refit to make sure wires are correct length , and trimmed etc to correct length ..

    Now , there is still more you can do ..

    Glass lens from DX/KD , tail switch ,

    This mod will run 2xAA

    Also you can run 14500 + Dummy cell ..

    You can buy a AA dummy from the market place , or make one from a AAA to AA adapter , use a spring [ soft ] internally to complete the circuit , and dont trim the spring too much , as it will offer resistance to current ,

    I will do some beam shots tonight ..

    With this one , I did put in a Lens , to get rid of the cree rings , and the black hole in the center .. A glass lens would be better , as would be a orange peel reflector ..

    Anyhow - This light can be yours !

    Yes Im giving this one away , I dont want anything in return ..

    If you want it : ???

    Just post a reply in this thread saying = "I want the MM mod"

    And I will put you in the draw , sorry no reserved numbers , and only a single entry , and the draw will be AKA Lucky dip ..

    If your name/number comes up , I will PM you asking for Snail mail so I can ship it to you .. Usual disclaimer about posting stuff ...
    This is 100% Free and open to all ...
    Last edited by old4570; 09-15-2009 at 11:00 PM.

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    Default Re: DIY Mini Mag Mod Guide

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    Win this Mini Mag I will end this Sat Local time [ Fri for you guys in the states ] and then do the draw , and hopefully post it Monday .


    Q5 reverse twisty + acrylic lens [ twist to tighten / to turn on ] Will run 2xAA or you can run 1x14500 + Dummy Cell .

    With 2 Duracells = 0.150mAh
    Varta Heavy duty = 0.180mAh


    Draw :

    1/ wolfstyle
    2/ Volny
    3/ d1337
    4/ KD5XB
    5/ Tmad
    6/ bshanahan14rulz
    7/ Fender
    8/ linty
    9/ Pekka
    10/ dealgrabber2002
    11/ DoctaDink
    12/ dubweiser
    13/ J.C.F.
    14/ zozo
    15/ gunga
    16/ 3D black mag
    17/ raven1911
    18/ lonesouth
    19/ Ty4752
    20/ dd61999
    21/ RAGE CAGE
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    Last edited by old4570; 09-18-2009 at 03:07 PM.

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    Default Re: DIY Mini Mag Mod Guide

    Too bad, I was interested to see this mod, but the heatsinking (or lack thereof) would definitely be a problem.


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    I agree. Heatsinking would be a big problem with this mod, especially given how this setup is direct-drive, so the current to the LED isn't regulated.

    I'm not sure how much runtime you'll get before the LED overheats.

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    Default Re: DIY Mini Mag Mod Guide

    It could be ..

    So far no problem , but Ive kept the runs to 5 minutes or less ..[ 14500 ]

    If you ran it for 30 minutes it could be a problem .. But if you run 2xAA I dont see an issue .. 14500 with not enough resistance could be an issue , but then the simplicity goes out the window .

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    Default Re: DIY Mini Mag Mod Guide

    Well , I just did a 20 minute run with my 14500 Mini mag Q5 mod [ not the one here ] and no problems ... Moded the same way .

    Nothing melted , and it seemed to heatsink to my hand just fine ..
    And if your worried , you can always go with the IQ tail switch witch will give you 3 modes ...

    Again , I dont see a problem with 2xAA ..

    If you were to leave the light on with a 14500 and it had nothing to heatsink to like your hand , Ok , it would probably get real hot ...

    Mine runs 600 - 700mAh due to the resistance from the dummy cell ..
    With the 14500 .. And it seems to be very manageable .

    Just tested the light with 2xAA [ The one I moded here and is on offer ]

    With 2 Duracells = 0.150A - 0.170A
    Varta Heavy duty = 0.180A - 0.210A
    With the 14500 + dummy cell = 0.55A

    Sorry guys .. I dont see a problem with AA's / The 14500 would obviously require some care , but I ran mine for 20 minutes with no issues .. Again mine is regulated to 600-700mAh with the dummy cell .
    Last edited by old4570; 09-16-2009 at 12:55 AM.

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    Default Re: DIY Mini Mag Mod Guide

    "I want the mm mod."

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    Default Re: DIY Mini Mag Mod Guide

    Couldn't you use an XP-E with a 10mm board (and probably a small heatsink that will touch the head of the light), instead? I might have to figure out a way to do that, and see if it will be functional.

    ~Brian

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    "I want the MM mod"

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    If I had a lathe , I would go nuts .. and build a SSC P7 Mini Mag ..
    Yes its do-able ..

    As is , I think its fine , for $5 you can make the old incan very usable .
    And as I mentioned before , Go IQ tailswitch for multimode .

    Going outside for beamshots

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    Thanks 4570, for a nice explanation. I live in South Africa so will have to order the parts from USA. Can't wait to have a go.

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    Default Re: DIY Mini Mag Mod Guide



    Incan with 2xAA Duracell /\




    Q5 with 2xAA Duracell /\




    Q5 with 1x14500 and dummy cell @ 0.55A


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    Great mod. I'm surprised we don't see more mods like this with so many MM around. Please enter me in the drawing.

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    Default Re: DIY Mini Mag Mod Guide

    Quote Originally Posted by Alistair View Post
    Thanks 4570, for a nice explanation. I live in South Africa so will have to order the parts from USA. Can't wait to have a go.
    This is the second one i've done , and Im very happy with the mod ..
    About 2 hours of your time , and you end up with a very usable light , and if your worried about melting it , just run AA's , I was very pleased with the low current draw o.2A and lower , so should give good run time on AA's .

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    Default Re: DIY Mini Mag Mod Guide

    I'd like to be in the drawing, too -- so.....

    "I want the MM mod"

    Tnx

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    Looks good. Really liked to see the difference in the batteries. I've got a good buddy who works at a machine shop and I'm gonna see if he'll make a heat sink or two for me.

    I'd also like to be in the drawing please.

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    Great information. I really liked to see the difference in the battery beam shots. Nice.

    Please enter me into the drawing.

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    Default Re: DIY Mini Mag Mod Guide

    I want the MM mod!!!

    I'm trying to do a 2xAAA MM mod myself, just a matter of logistics. Right now I will be mounting an xp-e to an 8mm board (fits perfectly in the hole at the head of the body), it will be glued to the inner diameter of that hole, plus an aluminum slug to act as the heatsink and spacer for the single AAA-sized li-ion (10440?). Switch I'm thinking of just taking out the battery. I need to check and see if I got any replies to my other post about switch ideas.

    For optics, I am using a ledil iris. I had a P3 7C, beautiful color. while half-asleep, I 'd it.

    Anyways, nice work

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    Great Job!!

    I have a Brinkman (MiniMag clone) that I wanted to upgrade for a long time. Where did you order the emitter and how much was it? I would like to order a few and do this upgrade on a few lights.

    Thanks Again!

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    Default Re: DIY Mini Mag Mod Guide

    Nice DIY How-to-Mod.... I ordered a Q3 from SB just for my MM. I'm going to machine a small Al slug for sink. What sort of draw can NiMHs or 'loops source?
    ^G When I reply, threads die....

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    Default Re: DIY Mini Mag Mod Guide

    oh gosh... i'm getting so sick and tired of all the 'heatsink' nannies... who cares!

    seriously... it all practical purposes... most people turn their lights off... admire how bright it is... then turn it off ...

    if your light is getting hot it means its working!

    Thanks for the DIY Mini MOD Guide!

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    Default Re: DIY Mini Mag Mod Guide

    yeah...while the heatsinking may pose as an issue its still much better than the stock minimag LED.

    besides...CREEs are cheap
    Given the real-estate in a minimag...the only ability to effectively heatsink it would be inserting a brass slug or what not in the body of the light and use a single 14500, but that won't be a "simple" mag mod
    Last edited by Illum; 09-16-2009 at 09:33 PM.

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    I want the MM mod!
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    "I want the MM mod"

    woot!

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    Default Re: DIY Mini Mag Mod Guide

    Quote Originally Posted by IceRat View Post
    Great Job!!

    I have a Brinkman (MiniMag clone) that I wanted to upgrade for a long time. Where did you order the emitter and how much was it? I would like to order a few and do this upgrade on a few lights.

    Thanks Again!
    Cree's = Many sources
    I usually get mine from Dealextreme or KaiDomain , you can also head on over to the CPF Marketplace , and check the links/sponsors .

    IQ tail switch

    And thank you , I figure lots of people have Mini Mags in the draw doing nothing , and if you can get them up and running for $5 , why not !
    I've learned a lot here at CPF [ still lots to learn ] and this is just a little Pay Back ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ^Gurthang View Post
    Nice DIY How-to-Mod.... I ordered a Q3 from SB just for my MM. I'm going to machine a small Al slug for sink. What sort of draw can NiMHs or 'loops source?
    Im not sure I understand the question ...

    Im guessing your wondering how much current they can provide , and the answer is around 1.7A+ for a single cell with a Cree XR-E ..
    Now thats only in my experience , Hardcore AA users may know better .

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    Simple yet effective, me likes
    Oh, and I want the MM mod!

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    Thank you for this great gesture.

    I want to be in the raffle as well.

    "I want the MM mod"

    Thank you once again.

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    Default Re: DIY Mini Mag Mod Guide

    This is great!! Exactly what I was looking for.

    oh yeah.. I want the MM mod!

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    Thanks for posting the Mod. Definitely looks like one to try.
    And...yes, I want the MM Mod.

    Thanks again.

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