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    Default Worlds first 12 D cell M*glite

    Welcome to my first real/major mod job.

    I proudly present the Big M*g compared to a 3 D M*g.





    So a "623" 12V 100W Osram overdriven to 175W with 14 AA Elite 1700mA cells in a modded 2D m*g seemed hot when I first made it, but action time sucks big time. Still a novel item for the Whoa effect.





    The current trend here at CPF seems to be minimising, so I thought to my self: “F**k that, I’ll go Michael Moore style and supersize". Why not make a “623” that’ll go for an hour flat, and thereby make it “usefull”? If you can call a 87cm ~ 34 inch light weighing in at 2,4 kg ~ 5.2 lbs usefull!
    I’m proud to present the world preview of my 12 D cell M*g with a head for a PAR 36 reflector. No money, lots of time so a 3” FM head is nice but unobtainable for me.

    Measured twice and cut once so the “donor” can be put together again as a 5 D M*g







    I made 2 versions of the head, the first build like a M1 Abrams tank weighing in at 516 grams ~ 1.13 lbs and not to my buddies liking. Designed to mount directly onto the M*g body and entirely too thick all over, no go! So swiftly on to the lathe again and several hours later the second version emerged. Weighing in at 187 grams ~ .4 lbs and mounting to the M*g mead.


    As you can see in the pictures I have also had to learn to anodize and is still learning splash anodizing. Lots on info on the first subject on the WWW, but very scarce info on the second.









    Light source is an Osram 41850SP 12V 100W 8degrees PAR 36 alu reflector.




    Now all I need to do is make a FET switch to assist the original and then feed the bastard.

    Damn those NiMh D cells are expensive when they land in that little Grease stain on the globe called Denmark. Locally @ $45 for two GE 10000mA cells. So I thought of the US of A and found very decent cell prices but either no sale outside US or @ $130-150 in shipping. Rats! Let me give an example:
    At www.batteryspace.com I can get 16 D cells 10000mA for $87.58 or $5.47 a piece, but shipping amounts to $140. Then the Danish customs gets 25% WAT and a $30 charge for ripping me off. Now the same cells are $19.6 a piece.

    So for now i'll settle for the same output as a black hole
    Dont go spoiling a perfectly good thread with too many facts.
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    Creator of The Axe and the BigM*g and i'm sure more silly projects will follow

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    Default Re: Worlds first 12 D cell M*glite

    Looks realy cool . In the world of CPF we need to think twice before using the words: "Worlds first", because chances are very good that it has been done before. Tried to look for a thread that I remember about Mags for sale with long extension tubes. Did not find the one I was looking for, but here is another example of a 12D Mod.

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    i like it

    id be really pissed if i lost a tiny $500 light, i really dont understand why anyone would buy a light for $500 when we can have the exact same performance (and reliability) for $70.(used)

    now how am i gonna lose a 12D mag ?

    not sure how many lumens your 12D produces? but im guessing a lot and for an hour is actually practical compared to similar output in a 2D for 9 minutes


    cant you buy or design a driver that will allow the use of standard alkaline batteries? yes there will be issues to overcome but with the issues divided by 12 they would be almost nothing?
    If and when the the big dookie hits the fan, and global chaos ensues, i want a couple of quality AA lights within reach.

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    Default Re: Worlds first 12 D cell M*glite

    Quote Originally Posted by waddup View Post
    cant you buy or design a driver that will allow the use of standard alkaline batteries? yes there will be issues to overcome but with the issues divided by 12 they would be almost nothing?
    100W/12V=8 1/3A

    No way Alkis are able to deliver that
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    Newbie here.. What is the blue meter device in this photo? http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...r/DSCN2380.jpg

    Please link for a place to purchase it and explain what information it provides. I love data.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Worlds first 12 D cell M*glite

    Very nice work. Certainly a trend setter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronASB View Post
    Newbie here.. What is the blue meter device in this photo? http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...r/DSCN2380.jpg

    Please link for a place to purchase it and explain what information it provides. I love data.

    Thanks.
    Made for RC electric models.

    http://www.powerwerx.com/tools-meter...dc-inline.html

    Basically an all in one DMM.
    Dont go spoiling a perfectly good thread with too many facts.
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    Evilgrin07 Re: Worlds first 12 D cell M*glite

    That is sweet! And, it doubles as a walking stick. I can't wait to see outdoor beamshots of that monster
    Cheers from the McGizmo state.

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    Default Re: Worlds first 12 D cell M*glite

    Would it be easier and cheaper to have the batteries purchased here in the states and forwarded to you?
    Shipping & Handling: $11.07 from BatterySpace.com here

    Or what about ordering from Canada like this?
    eBay

    Will LSD cells work? These are really good priced from bearwobble.com

    Great looking mod! Fire it up!!

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    Default Re: Worlds first 12 D cell M*glite

    I like the use of an AR111 bulb.

    (FWIW, AR111 stands for "Aluminium Reflector, 111mm" and are that smidgin smaller than the 114.3mm glass PAR36.)

    I have a 4°, 50W AR111 LA installed in my forthcoming "Ultimate Dolphin" project, and my reason for this post was to inject the "AR111" term into this thread to make the search terma available.

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    Default Re: Worlds first 12 D cell M*glite

    Why won't you make it a HID or a 4x sst90 led flashlight?
    Are you going to have it serve as a defence weapon?

    Nice modding dude!

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    Just...AWESOME

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    Very nice idea using a PAR36 bulb. Wouldn't be surprised to see more of those M1 Abrams heads popping up. I tried looking up your 41850SP to see the specs on it. But I could only find candle power ratings. What is the output in lumens? Which one throws farther, the PAR36 or the Mag623? Or haven't you got the batteries for it yet?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Combs View Post
    Very nice idea using a PAR36 bulb. Wouldn't be surprised to see more of those M1 Abrams heads popping up. I tried looking up your 41850SP to see the specs on it. But I could only find candle power ratings. What is the output in lumens? Which one throws farther, the PAR36 or the Mag623? Or haven't you got the batteries for it yet?
    No mate, no bats yet but i'm working on it.

    I need to hook up with someone who can stick 12 D cells in a flatrate pack and ship it to DK.

    The PAR36 has a 8 degree beam whereas the 623 in a standard 2" M*g head is all flod.

    As to output i'll think that a 623 bulb at 100% will emit @ 2800lumen regardless of its sourrondings?
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    Default Re: Worlds first 12 D cell M*glite

    you just reminded me why i love this forum
    yeah i bought another one... the last one just wasnt what i was looking for

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    Nothing like playing a good game of baseball and using your "bat" to light the way home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post

    Light source is an Osram 41850SP 12V 100W 8degrees PAR 36 alu reflector.



    made in slovakia ???
    very nice ... good choice of company ...

    Endurer 4x18650 4xCree MCE M-bin WH 3000+ lumen, Police Maglite 2D SSR-90 with KD 52mm aspheric and 10A current with LDO10C driver and Red Maglite 5D@Luminus CBM-360 4500K neutral white 5000 lumen aspheric

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    Question Re: Worlds first 12 D cell M*glite

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dane View Post
    If this is the Osram 41850 SP, then what is the actual Par 36 bulb?

    What bulb is this?
    “What do you mean LEDs are more efficient then Incans?”, that’s just what they want you to think! It’s a Conspiracy, Man!

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    A GE 6V 30W pinspot, but it gives a crappy hotspot. I bought that for sizing because the 41850 was an order item.
    Dont go spoiling a perfectly good thread with too many facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juggernaut View Post
    If this is the Osram 41850 SP, then what is the actual Par 36 bulb?
    They are both PAR-36 bulbs if I understood you correctly.


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    Default Re: Worlds first 12 D cell M*glite

    (P)arallel (A)ngle (R)eflector

    Take the number and devide by 8 then you get the diameter in inches.

    So a PAR 36 is 4½" or 114mm in diameter
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    Default Re: Worlds first 12 D cell M*glite

    Quote Originally Posted by Al Combs View Post
    They are both PAR-36 bulbs if I understood you correctly.
    No.

    The glass one (a 4515) is a PAR36, the metal one is an AR111 bulb.

    As I posted above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lctorana View Post
    No.

    The glass one (a 4515) is a PAR36, the metal one is an AR111 bulb.

    As I posted above.
    Yea, that’s why I was asking what the par36 was, since you told use what the AR111 bulb was. Thanks for the answer. I’ve got bulbs like that, just not with an actual glass envelope bulb inside.
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    Default Re: Worlds first 12 D cell M*glite

    Quote Originally Posted by Juggernaut View Post
    Yea, that’s why I was asking what the par36 was, since you told use what the AR111 bulb was. Thanks for the answer. I’ve got bulbs like that, just not with an actual glass envelope bulb inside.
    Erm, yes - my bad. It's not a 4515, it's an H4515. I'm awake now.

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    Default Re: Worlds first 12 D cell M*glite

    Quote Originally Posted by lctorana View Post
    No.

    The glass one (a 4515) is a PAR36, the metal one is an AR111 bulb.

    As I posted above.
    wasn't it Parabolic Aluminized Reflector?

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    All you need is a shoulder strap like this.
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    Default Re: Worlds first 12 D cell M*glite

    Quote Originally Posted by parnell View Post
    All you need is a shoulder strap like this.

    No way, I think a flag holster would work better for this light: http://www.westernband.com/Pages/ROT...arness_Leather
    Light is sweet and pleasing to the eyes....

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    Default Re: Worlds first 12 D cell M*glite

    Quote Originally Posted by parnell View Post
    All you need is a shoulder strap like this.

    No shoulder strap necessary, you just need to hold it the right way:
    Last edited by ma_sha1; 11-15-2009 at 09:48 AM.

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    I am curious which carrying style The Dane is going to go with. The last does seem the most efficient for any situation one might come across.
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    Default Re: Worlds first 12 D cell M*glite

    Maybe so but i think my potbelly woud spoil the fancy dress, and make it more like a loin cloth
    Dont go spoiling a perfectly good thread with too many facts.
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