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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleFrodo View Post
    Don, could you please post up a link or a park number or something so that we can be sure we are actually looking at the LEDs that are compatible with the Sapphire?
    I have used both Nichia 3 mm and 5 mm LED's as well as UV 5 mm and lately the 5 mm from Yuji. I use three different O-rings with the LED's to make a good fit in the sapphire head. I have received some 5 mm samples some time ago that didn't fit properly due to their large and over long epoxy envelopes. From Yuji if that is what you are asking, I have been using the BC Series High CRI 5 MM and 60 viewing angle and 5600K I assume the 45 will have a taller envelope which may or may not be a challenge to fit in the Sapphire head. Going with the 60 in 3200K would not be a problem but I see now the order quantity has bumped up to 1000 pieces for $130. Now sales are only in bulk. Perhaps some members have these in the 3200K and can make some available to anyone wanting one.
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    At that point I guess the question of “does anyone have any of these on hand?” comes up. And if nobody has them, how much interest is there in Sapphires with those LEDs? I imagine it might be unrealistic to expect to get 1000 votes for the idea here, but now I’m thinking that I wonder what else could be done with all the extra LEDs... 🤔

    Anyone have any thoughts? The Sapphire is just so darn pretty looking, but I’m definitely a fan of warmer tints. If anyone was interested in tints more like 3500K, 3700K, or 4000K, I think those would all look fantastic and offer very pleasant color rendition and I think maybe we should try to find out how much interest there is in such a thing. I’m particularly interested in something between 3200K and 3700K.

    Don, are those the 95+ CRI LEDs?
    Yugi has high CRI LEDs that use a violet emitter under the phosphor layer, and they are supposed to offer 98+ CRI, but at reduced output compared to the more traditional blue emitter under the phosphor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InvisibleFrodo View Post
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    Don, are those the 95+ CRI LEDs?
    Yugi has high CRI LEDs that use a violet emitter under the phosphor layer, and they are supposed to offer 98+ CRI, but at reduced output compared to the more traditional blue emitter under the phosphor.
    Yes, these are 95+ CRI
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    I’m very interested in a 3000K - 4000K range Sapphire.

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    Default Standing wave of Sapphire 25's , GS and now High CRI

    Yuji leds, top to bottom: 5600/45, 3200/45, 3200/60. The 5600/60 were out of stock when I bought these. These 3 seem to be identical https://imgur.com/a/UsHnm
    Last edited by ma tumba; 11-23-2017 at 12:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ma tumba View Post
    Yuji leds, top to bottom: 5600/45, 3200/45, 3200/60. The 5600/60 were out of stock when I bought these. These 3 seem to be identical https://imgur.com/a/UsHnm
    The die in the bottom one (60 would be my guess) is closer to the lens of the envelope than the other two. Since the envelopes are the same in all three, no problem with them working in the Sapphire. I love how clean and artifact free the 60 is. I have no idea if the tighter 45 will be as clean and just more concentrated or not.

    NOTE: I re read your post and see that you have indeed identified the 60 as the one in the bottom of the image.
    Last edited by McGizmo; 11-23-2017 at 04:45 PM. Reason: added note
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    Quote Originally Posted by McGizmo View Post
    I love how clean and artifact free the 60 is. I have no idea if the tighter 45 will be as clean and just more concentrated or not.
    The beam of all 3 kinds that I have, range from nearly perfect to perfect. There are variations between individual LEDs of the same kind, but I struggle to see them even on the white wall.

    Don I can send you a few 3200k (both angles) leds as soon as you know how many lights you would actually build at this point.

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    Ohhh, I’m in for a 3200K 60 angle! Appreciate your efforts in this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcdj View Post
    Am I the only one who would love to see a Sapphire AA?
    Guess so.
    Last edited by mcdj; 12-29-2017 at 03:27 PM.

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    Did anything end up happening with the 3200K (45 degree beam preferably) Yuji HiCRI?

    I'd have to look into getting a Sapphire if they're available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F89 View Post
    Did anything end up happening with the 3200K (45 degree beam preferably) Yuji HiCRI?

    I'd have to look into getting a Sapphire if they're available.
    Don has said in the past he has no intent on offering these warm tints. The CRI sapphire is awesome, mine rides on my keys. Love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliceScannerMan View Post
    Don has said in the past he has no intent on offering these warm tints. The CRI sapphire is awesome, mine rides on my keys. Love it.
    PSM: have you owned/do you own the ”regular” Sapphire GS. If so could you please just give a short comparison beween the CRI and the GS. I have a GS and find it a bit greenish not so high CRI, and was looking forward to be able to get the 3200K as an upgrade. Realizing that the 3200K probably will never happen I just might pick up a CRI instead. Does the Sapphire CRI have a nice CRI and color temp would you say? Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliceScannerMan View Post
    Don has said in the past he has no intent on offering these warm tints. The CRI sapphire is awesome, mine rides on my keys. Love it.
    Don mentioned that if someone sent him the LEDs he'd build with them. I was hoping that perhaps someone had sent him a bunch and there might be some left over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JKolmo View Post
    PSM: have you owned/do you own the ”regular” Sapphire GS. If so could you please just give a short comparison beween the CRI and the GS. I have a GS and find it a bit greenish not so high CRI, and was looking forward to be able to get the 3200K as an upgrade. Realizing that the 3200K probably will never happen I just might pick up a CRI instead. Does the Sapphire CRI have a nice CRI and color temp would you say? Thanks!
    I might just get the 5600K myself.
    The GS has a fairly low CRI, I don't have one or the Yuji but by all reports it will be a big upgrade in tint and CRI.
    I can understand Don aiming for a day light match, I'm sure the 5600K are really nice. The 3200K would be nice and cosy though considering the output etc.
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    Hi guys,
    I got caught short and was out of the Sapphire sets for a couple weeks but am now back in offering them. And I want to add that Greg Barra has sent me some of the Yuji 3200K 45 degree LED's so while supply lasts, I am adding them as a choice. I built one sample to compare to the 5600K 60 degree that I am building with and to the naked eye, these 3200K are definitely warmer than I like but seem to be similar in lux to the 5600K and likely due to being a smaller angle so more intense, distribution of light. The lumens would be less and I am not going to bother trying to measure with my integrating sphere since it is questionable at this point anyway. But for you guys who want warm and good CRI, there is now this option. You can thank Greg!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcdj View Post
    Am I the only one who would love to see a Sapphire AA?

    Even though it will never happen I really like this thought.

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    McGizmo - sapphire GS, paypal sent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McGizmo View Post
    Hi guys,
    I got caught short and was out of the Sapphire sets for a couple weeks but am now back in offering them. And I want to add that Greg Barra has sent me some of the Yuji 3200K 45 degree LED's so while supply lasts, I am adding them as a choice. I built one sample to compare to the 5600K 60 degree that I am building with and to the naked eye, these 3200K are definitely warmer than I like but seem to be similar in lux to the 5600K and likely due to being a smaller angle so more intense, distribution of light. The lumens would be less and I am not going to bother trying to measure with my integrating sphere since it is questionable at this point anyway. But for you guys who want warm and good CRI, there is now this option. You can thank Greg!!
    Are these still available with the 3200K LED as an option?
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    Quote Originally Posted by greatscoot View Post
    Are these still available with the 3200K LED as an option?
    Yes
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