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    I just bought a porcupine style flash light. I was planning on keeping it in my car and was concerned about the laws in Texas. Anyone have any information about this?

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    It's Texas, you can probably have a flashlight with a bayonet that shoots batteries...

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    Default Re: Self defense flash light laws in Texas

    Google "Texas Castle Law".

    If you are in imminent danger, you can do anything to protect yourself.


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    Texas law forbids carrying "clubs." Clubs can mean anything the cop and DA want it to. Sort of like "burglar tools."

    The "Castle" law isn't quite that simple, either. You usually have to be in your home or car and someone must be making an illegal entry before it applies.

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    Default Re: Self defense flash light laws in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo Cree View Post
    Texas law forbids carrying "clubs." Clubs can mean anything the cop and DA want it to. Sort of like "burglar tools."

    The "Castle" law isn't quite that simple, either. You usually have to be in your home or car and someone must be making an illegal entry before it applies.
    I was trying to keep public and private setting separated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo Cree View Post
    Texas law forbids carrying "clubs." Clubs can mean anything the cop and DA want it to. Sort of like "burglar tools."

    The "Castle" law isn't quite that simple, either. You usually have to be in your home or car and someone must be making an illegal entry before it applies.
    Don't run your mouth without knowing the "facts". Direct from the Texas DPS website, posted in Sept. 2007:


    HB 1815
    excludes from unlawful carrying of a weapon a person who is carrying a handgun,
    illegal knife, or club on the person’s own premises or premises under their control or inside of or
    directly en route to a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or is under their control.

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    ETA:http://www.rc123.com/texas_castle_doctrine.html
    Last edited by Paladin; 01-17-2010 at 09:55 PM. Reason: add reference
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    Default Re: Self defense flash light laws in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Paladin View Post
    Don't run your mouth without knowing the "facts". Direct from the Texas DPS website, posted in Sept. 2007:


    HB 1815
    excludes from unlawful carrying of a weapon a person who is carrying a handgun,
    illegal knife, or club on the personís own premises or premises under their control or inside of or
    directly en route to a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or is under their control.

    You're right, you can carry a club in your car. You can't carry it in general. If you get out of the car and use the "club" light to check a tire or assist someone else, you are technically in violation.

    If you'll notice, HB 1815 permits you to carry a club to your car, but it doesn't permit you to take it from your car back to your house. It also doesn't allow you to carry it to your wife's car if you're not the one driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajax517 View Post
    It's Texas, you can probably have a flashlight with a bayonet that shoots batteries...
    That was the best laugh I've had all week... Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajax517 View Post
    It's Texas, you can probably have a flashlight with a bayonet that shoots batteries...
    Make one, and ask a cop in Texas if you can use it to shoot someone in self-defense. I bet his answer will be "Sure, fire."

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    Default Re: Self defense flash light laws in Texas

    If you live in Texas you probably will not have a problem. If you should decide to move you may have a problem but it will probably be worth it.

    Can you post a picture of a "porcupine style" flashlight?

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    Thanks guys. I'll post pics when it's done. Just ordered all the parts.

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    Default Re: Self defense flash light laws in Texas

    I think in Texas you are ok as long as you have a gun attached to your flashlight

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    Default Re: Self defense flash light laws in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ajax517 View Post
    It's Texas, you can probably have a flashlight with a bayonet that shoots batteries...
    Spit out my drink on that one!

    As a kid, I used to fly down 3 times a year to Houston TX to visit my family.....While my mother and brother would be at work, I would spend the afternoons at pawn shops hunting out used rare CD's and such.

    Of course, all the pawn shops had gun cases, and at almost every single shop, when they'd see me checking out the hardware, even the Class 3 stuff, they'd offer for me to handle it, in the store.

    I'll never forget...I was about 16 or 17 at the time (late 80's), and there was a fight between two mexican dudes in the front of this pawn shop. The guy had been showing me this a NIB (or damn close) IntraTec Tec-9, Full Auto. He sees the two beating each other, grabs a bat, hands me the Tec 9, and says "watch this for me for a minute, son".

    15 minutes later, after the cops had come and one of the 2 was ambulance material, he came back, in thanked me for "keeping an eye on the gun case" (I didn't, but was alone), and let me take the stack of CD's in my hand for $20.

    This all is off-topic, but if anyone hasn't experienced full-on TEXAS, yes, a bayonetted flashlight that shot exploding batteries would probably be legal, and definitely be available with pearled handles and a place to hold a beer, in TX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajax517 View Post
    It's Texas, you can probably have a flashlight with a bayonet that shoots batteries...
    If you don't get away with this, wouldn't you be charged with assault with a battery?

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    Default Re: Self defense flash light laws in Texas

    As a native Texan and long-time member of the "First Liar Doesn't Have a Chance" club, I'll affirm that the majority of our law enforcement officers, especially out here in the rural areas, are more likely to compare weapons with you than hassle you as long as you show reasonable evidence of living brain cells.

    I'm confidant that flashlights, even with agressive bezels, would not be a problem around here.

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    If you have a flashlight with a bayonet that shoots venting batteries that explode, any Texas cop would want to know where to get one for him/herself so they can replace their flash bang and tear gas grenades and launcher with a more compact, all in one weapon.

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    Default Re: Self defense flash light laws in Texas

    Like Dave Keith said and I stated before, good luck finding an LEO that would hassle you. And the comment made about comparing weapons well your right...done it before!!

    Maybe our weapon laws (or lack there of) would convince some of you non-Texans to move on in...

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    Default Re: What's a porcupine-style flashlight?

    Quote Originally Posted by wrxzzz View Post
    I just bought a porcupine style flash light. I was planning on keeping it in my car and was concerned about the laws in Texas. Anyone have any information about this?
    What, exactly, do you mean--a flashlight with retractable spikes, like this K2?
    My lights, all AA, neutral or warm: 3 Fenix TK20s; 2 Malkoff M30WFs; 2 Shiningbeam Romisens (5A); Dereelight XP-G R5 (close enough); UK 4AA incan.

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    Default Re: What's a porcupine-style flashlight?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_in_Maryland View Post
    What, exactly, do you mean--a flashlight with retractable spikes, like this K2?
    This is a porcupine-style light (a.k.a. pocket shredder, lol):

    http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/sho...d.php?t=211416

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    Default Re: Self defense flash light laws in Texas

    excludes from unlawful carrying of a weapon a person who is carrying a handgun,
    illegal knife, or club on the personís own premises or premises under their control or inside of or
    directly en route to a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or is under their control.

    I'm curious about what this means exactly.


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    Default Re: Self defense flash light laws in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Search View Post
    excludes from unlawful carrying of a weapon a person who is carrying a handgun,
    illegal knife, or club on the personís own premises or premises under their control or inside of or
    directly en route to a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or is under their control.

    I'm curious about what this means exactly.
    Probably means a rental or place that you live that you don't own.

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    Default Re: Self defense flash light laws in Texas

    I guess that article doesn't apply to people with any kind of carry permit. However, I thought in Texas you didn't need a permit to open carry, only to conceal carry.

    Oh well, it doesn't matter. Good luck finding a cop who actually cares about a flashlight with pointed ends. It's not really a club. It's a small light with sharp end.


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