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    Default List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    I've been wanting to start this thread for awhile now. It's nothing more than another attempt at dissemintating information in a concise manner that is centered around one simple piece of criteria. Think of the lights you own or have owned and which ones really stand out as having exceeded your expectations, and for that matter list some lights that you feel were a waste of money. I'm a hippocrate for asking this but try to keep any explanations you wish to offer as short as you reasonably can. PM's are probably the best way to get more information w/out cluttering this thread too much.
    Obviously I'll go first:

    LIGHTS THAT I REGRET:
    -Nitecore Smart PD20 (R2 version)...the UI is awesome but its pretty heavy for its size and mine just doesn't seem to be very bright, 200lm...no way.
    -IncenDio V3...great build quality but runs pretty hot, smaller than it has to be to EDC, i just don't use it much.

    LIGHTS I FELT WERE WORTH MORE THAN I PAID:
    -LX2...its my EDC, as close to perfect as any light i've used, a bargain, even at $200.
    -4sevens Quark 123^2 Turbo...this light turned out to be amazing, beam quality is unbelievable, actual output seems considerably higher than they claim.
    -Fenix LD20...very light, very bright, best beam i've seen w/ an XR-E
    -my Dereelight DBS's...so many great lights from a small collection of different parts, its like i've been able to fit 10-15 different lights into a 1150 Pelican case
    -Olight M30...best use of an MC-E...my go-to BRIGHT light.
    -Energizer Night Strike, Swivel Light....makes an awesome utility light.
    The lights we own end up owning us...
    Best brands: UltraFire, SacredFire, TrustFire, SpiderFire, StarFire, SuperFire, Yes-Pres-Obama-We-would-love-to-refinance-your-country-Fire & Surefire...in that order. But NOT UniqueFire. They can suck it!

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    Default Re: List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    Worth more:
    - McLux Ti PD-S Mizer... if you judge a light by how much it gets carried and used, the PD-S is my best
    - Olight M30 Triton... didn't pay a cent for it, instead traded useful information for a light, also now my favorite light cannon
    - Surefire C2... or 6P... most upgradeable light I own
    - Surefire Saint... finally a headlamp with the UI a headlamp deserves, and better yet, dual fuel capable
    - Quark 123 Mini... are you kidding, under $40 for a top notch light that performs with the best of them? how can it not be on my list

    Worth less:
    - Fenix P1D... the jump in size from the P1 changed it from a desireable pocket/keyring light to being unpleasantly bulky, not to mention the annoying strobe/SOS modes.
    - Maglite Solitaire... who are we kidding, even before Surefire, Arc, Fenix, 4sevens, the Soli was still a terrible light. At least the Minimag had its good days, but the Soli? Never.
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    Default Re: List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    From Your Sig Line,

    "The lights we own end up owning us." so very, very true in my case. Personally, I am having a hard time choosing my worst lights because I have found them all to be useful tools and the ones that I don't particularly like have taught me something but I love them just the same.

    As for my most EDC'd and therefore my most liked I will have to say would be my;
    Peak 3 LED Matterhorn-xxx
    Peak7 LED McKinley
    Peak 3 LED Red Shasta
    Peak 1 Led Cyan Shasta
    Peak Caribbean
    Lunasol 20-xxx
    Surefire E1B-xxx
    Surefire E1E
    Jetbeam Jet 1 Pro warm emitter

    The three xxx=most EDC usage, others are in rotation and or preference for how am feeling at the time.
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    Default Re: List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    I love about all of my purchases, hadnt had to many regrets so far, but i guess the one that sticks out the most was the Pila GL4. I bought a couple years ago when i was really getting into flashlights and the 550 lumen figure enticed me. I kept it for about a month and got rid of it, reasons being is mainly because it was the ugliest light i had ever seen, too big to carry, which is the main reason i wanted it and the brightness ddint live up to my expectations. Oh well, live and learn!

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    Default Re: List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    Best:
    Surefire, Mag, Eagletac, ITP, Gerber, Zebralight, Solarforce, HID spotlights, Romisen, Fenix, DX junk for DIY modding... its all good by me

    Worst:
    This thing I paid $25 for


    Second worst:
    This Dorcy 3AAA, flood to throw... YUK


    To think I paid almost $40 combined for these last two turds

    Some surprises along the way:
    These 3AAA Dorcy showerheads have been surprisingly useful. They run forever on alkalines, survived a load of laundry and my 2 destructive kids beat them to he11 and back. I am NOT a fan of 3AAA lights in any way, shape or form... but these have surprised me. I have several scattered throughout the house.


    This Joby, 3AA, Cree XPE has been surprisingly useful. Infinitely variable dimmer switch, regulated output, ~50L OTF, magnetic mount feet.
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    Default Re: List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    I love my LL P7, X2000, LL K3 and my Solarforce L2M SS SE lights except for one. Worst, my maglite AA incan is almost no use now.

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    Default Re: List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    Best Purchase
    Surefire G2...A $40 thing of beauty.

    Light I was not too Happy With
    Fenix TK20...A $60 disappointment.

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    My biggest regret was the Fenix TK20. Huge waste of dough for me. Wouldn't buy it again even if it was only ten bucks. I hated the browny yellow tint, hated it. I also detested the fact that it was shaped like a Colonel Sanders drumstick and had a wierd balance in the hand plus a clip in an absolutely useless (to me) place. A shame because it probably had the best fit and finish and the best shaped beam with the best reflector of any torch I ever bought.

    My best has been my new MkII p20c2 with OP, a beam just so smooth and bright and a superb UI. I do hate that straight ribbed knurling though, looks like a hack job and feels like a hack job. My Led lenser p17 cost a lot but does its job of looking a lonnnng way downrange very well too. My Quark 123 R2 is pretty darned useful too.

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    Default Re: List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    Best purchases:
    For virtually unlimited upgradeability, a SureFire C3 ($57 on Ebay) and a SureFire 6P w/ McC2S Z41 tailcap. Also the SureFire L1. Oh, and a SureFire G3 LED ($50 on CPF/MP). Hmm, there seems to be a common theme in this list...

    Worst purchase by far:
    The Maglite Solitaire (a very long time ago). I still don't know how they get away with selling these things.
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    Default Re: List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    Best purchases for me have included the bulk of my lights, from my first nice torch (a few years ago) - Fenix L2D - to my latest - Surefire E1B. In between there have been more Fenix and Surefire in addition to some Nitecore and Jetbeams.

    In between, I've also had a few lights that were not my cup of tea. So, my relatively worst purchases were a Quark 123 and Fenix P1D. Don't get me wrong, these are nice, but the Fenix is not rechargeable friendly and the Quark feels fragile.

    I've been pretty fortunate, and it helps that I do at least an hour of research before any purchase.

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    Ive been happy with all of my purchases except my 2xAA Mag LED, first generation... utter garbage!, It currently sits in a drawer so as not to infect my other lights.
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    Best: 4D mag for ROP mod (can use mag 6 cell bulb, ROP low/hi, $4 6v Everready lantern at Lowes + 2.99 mag 4 cell Xenon bulb, minimag AA with streamlight bulb, dorcy 220 until I left it on a bench by accident, B&D 6v halogen spot light

    Worst: many $1 2D cell incans that only lasted a few days, streamlight twin task rechargeble (too floody on bulb for me), AAA minimag (threads way too loose)

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    Best: anything made by Arc., McGizmo, Surefire.

    Worst: Anything I bought before I got to CPF
    EDC E1B, Tigerlight w/LED dropin for when I need more light. Love my new Zebralight H30 for floody tasks and my Quark Mini123 for being awesomely small and bright.

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    Good: Almost too many to list, but my Electron Guru/Malkoff 6P's, Peaks (all of them), Dereelight CL1H V4 and DBV3, and Orb wee NS lead the way. The Jetbeam M1X get an honorary mention.

    The bad: I've had bad luck with Nitecore; D10's with really fast ramping, a DI that hates 14500's, and an EX10 that has a terribly hard to use piston. The Ti Preon was also a bummer, crappiest threads EVER!!! ugh, it makes my teeth hurt just twisting it. (think nails on a chalk board)
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    I most regret wasting my money on the EagleTac M2CX4. While it performed well, the selector ring was terrible with the accidental strobing.

    My best purchase was my Serv-Light caving headlamp.

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    Best purchases probably would be my SureFire lights...although I am pretty happy with most of my lights.

    Off the top of my head, the worst purchases likely would include the Trek 7 and Trek 19 lights (bet most of you young 'uns never even heard of these lights). They were nice lights, rather expensive and sort of cutting edge at the time (about 9 years or so ago)...probably couldn't give them away now (to flashaholics anyway). Sigh.
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    Best for me would be my Surefire C2 with an M60. an Honorable mention would also have to got to the Skyray SR 5 from DX. The quality is as good as Solarforce and at the moment its my brightest single LED flashlight even surpassing my Malkoff (similar beams also). All that for around $20.
    My worst would be a Brinkman AAA flashlight that I bought years ago. It never truly worked and my frustration with that light led me to CPF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yucca Patrol View Post
    I most regret wasting my money on the EagleTac M2CX4. While it performed well, the selector ring was terrible with the accidental strobing.
    The strobe issue irritated me with this light too. Luckily there is a fix. Just unscrew the head and adjust where the screws are mounted in this pic and voila! no more strobe!

    For my list...
    Best:
    ITP A3. For the price, size, and brightness, this one is tough to beat

    TK20. Im surprised to see this one on some people's worst lists. At ~$50 its a great light for the money imo. Nice tint, good grip, good throw, and built like a tank.

    Quark MiNi123 Ti. Tiny, bright as heck, and titanium for <$70?! Actually all my quarks I feel are great lights for the money.

    Olight M30. While i have other MC-E lights that are brighter and will out throw this one, the difference in size is priceless. Compared to my other "big" lights, this one feels so compact and it still gives off a wall of light.

    Worst:
    Just about every light i've ordered from DX.

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    Default Re: List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    Quote Originally Posted by kramer5150 View Post
    This Joby, 3AA, Cree XPE has been surprisingly useful. Infinitely variable dimmer switch, regulated output, ~50L OTF, magnetic mount feet.

    Which light is that? Looks great for working on the car.
    Light is sweet and pleasing to the eyes....

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    Default Re: List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    My worst buy it is not 1, but 3.



    Few years ago bought a great led flashlight (3 x AAA) at the local chinese shop. Was impressed how much brighter it was than my old minimags.



    Used the cheap chinese light for a week or so until it got wet in the rain and then puuufff. Not happy with it, bought a second unit that last as much as the first one. Being hard to learn, bought a third one that ended just as quickly as the first two. No need to say, those 3 were the worst buy I have ever made.

    My best buy are 2

    Finally understood that cheap chinese lights were not the solution was looking for. Found CPF and bough a CMG (?) Infinity + Fenix L1D. Although I gave away the infinity to a friend (still regret that error) both lights are running strong and used almost in a daily basis.

    Today I have brighter and more expensive lights but always regard those two as the best buys have ever made.

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    Best purchases would include my Surefire G2, Olight T20, and a Petzl Arctic headlamp. Many years ago, Maglite brought a robustness and quality into the flashlight world so I have to add my first Maglite, a 2C.

    Worst would have to be any and all of the Princeton Tec lights that I purchased. They hold the record for the only flashlights that I've actually thrown in the garbage. Three complete failures out of four.

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    Default Re: List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    I am a frugal flashaholic so my list doesn't contain the higher priced, big name players.

    Best:
    Rayovac Sportsman Xtreme 2xAA 1-watt.
    iTP A3 EOS Upgrade & iTP A2 EOS
    Solarforce L2*
    Surefire G2
    MG L-Mini II
    Gerber Infinity Ultra
    2D Rebel Mag (a $20 thrower)

    Worst:
    The utterly useless Mag Solitaire
    2D incans bought from closeout bins that can't be modded.

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    Best:
    Romisen RC-N3 NW: Awesome light for the money, plus you can use AA or 123a's.
    Surefire 6P w/ M61: Awesome light,good throw and spill.
    All my other Surfire's
    Zebralight H501: Great all around light.

    Worst:
    Dereelight DBS V3: The light output is good but i cant stand the threads and o-rings on this light(they just feel cheap).
    Mag solitare: Was my first light and is garbage.

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    Default Re: List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    Best:
    Fenix LD20 (1. version) without doubt. My most used light so far with great balance between output, run time and size

    Worst:
    Mini MagLite 2AA LED non mode (2006) version. Nothing really wrong with it technically I'd just expect it's output to be far more considered the horrendous price and the "3 watt" advertising on the package. Yeah right it doesn't even deliver 1 w to the emitter. So price/performance is really bad. I feel robbed
    MTE C3-1 Stainless from DX. But only the 2. one I bought. The first one very nice but 2. one was noticeably lower quality
    The annoyance of having bought something mediocre lasts much longer than the joy of having saved on quality....(!)

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    Default Re: List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    Best purchases so far:
    SureFire E2DL - Simply awesome
    ZebraLight H501/w - Simply useful
    EagleTac T100C2 - Simply KISS

    Worst purchase:
    Fenix LD05 - this was purchased to compare with Preon II, heavy, green tint, PWM and tight clip, simply one of the worst release from Fenix!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leukos View Post
    Which light is that? Looks great for working on the car.
    Yes, x2. Where did you get that?

    Speaking of lights I regret, I have the exact same host as this, except it's the multi-angry-blue-5mm version and it really *sentence terminated to avoid vulgarity*. Purchased before my CPF days. Hmm, mod time I guess.

    I haven't been truly disappointed in anything since learning of CPF. Closest candidates would be:
    Ti Quark - tint really spoiled an otherwise nice offering. Would have gladly given up some efficacy for a reasonable stock tint @ low drive.
    EX10 - It's so close to being fantastic, but behaves erratically on occasion, even well maintained.
    Illuminati - Dunno why, but just didn't have any appeal when I opened the box. Not sure if I even turned it on. I'll stick with my LD01 SS, thank you.
    iTP A3 - F'n useless split ring hole. I'll stick with my LD01 SS, thank you.
    Maratac AAA - Meh. Uninspiring. I'll stick with my ... OK, you get the point.


    The true gems with respect to value:
    Zebralights (several varieties) - What needs to be said? More useful than my left thumb.
    "User" classic 6P with 7A LED drop in - Timeless, elegant design. Perhaps the prettiest mass-produced light of all time. A little rough around the edges, not afraid to put it through some hard use. Awesome, useful tint. (Thanks carbine15).
    SureFire U2 with tailstanding tailcap - The best UI, bar none. 18650 + SureFire goodness. Yep, put 'er on the list.
    LD01 - There are fancier, smaller, lighter, brighter, and far more expensive keychain lights. But there's just something about this light, next to a micra with my keys... can't put a finger on it.
    JetBeam M1X - Versatility, ridiculously useful beam pattern

    I feel terrible leaving so many other lights off the list. I almost always feel they're worth more than I pay.
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    Default Re: List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    Excluding my SPY's

    Best
    Surefire E1B. Really amazed at the light out of this guy.


    Worst
    Streamlight 4AA. Bought this a few years ago, thought it was great at the time.

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    Default Re: List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    ooomphh... this is gonna be a hard one

    The better lights:

    Surefire C3 Centurion HAIII (with P90, I LOVE it!!)
    Megalennium (the way the SF M6 should have been... on 3X 18650s!)
    Wolf Eyes M90 Rattlesnake (2-cell, standard lamp, as well as 3-cell)
    MagCharger (good throw, bright, rechargeable...)
    Wolf Eyes Sniper MC-E (BRIGHT! Bright! Did I mention it is BRIGHT??)
    Surefire C2 Centurion HAIII (smaller brother of the C3)
    Modified Surefire A2 (REAL warm white LEDs, match incan perfectly)
    Surefire U2, new version (one of the most versatile lights I have)
    Maglite AA incan: the PERFECT light for in a tent... neither too bright, nor too dim
    Fenix LD01: a very versatile EDC. It is always on me.
    Fenix P3D: even RCR123s work forever in this light. Bright and small.
    Modified SF E1E: with LF LA, guilt free lumens and BRIGHT for the size!

    The ones that disappointed me more or less:

    Surefire L1 LumaMax (new version): really NO spill at all!! TIR is not for me.
    Ultrafire WF501B, C or D: either bent body(!), loose threads, switch that broke down, or JUST too narrow to house 18650s... or just too LONG to make contact with unprotected 18650s!!

    I'm sure I forgot loads of lights, let this be my start

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    Default Re: List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    I have no regrets for any of the lights I have bought. I use CPF to research before I buy. Even the lights I bought before CPF have lasted well and served the needs of the times. Including 3d, 2c and mini mags. Favorites for me include q mini aa and 123 for edc. ITP C8R for work. Love the TK20s for a great all around 2xaa lights. A Dereelight Javelin a favorite for trying stuff out. Do the research make wise choices and have realistic expectations.

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    Default Re: List the BEST/WORST flashlight purchases you have made.

    Best: Surefire E1e, my EDC for several years now. Surefire E2e,Surefire G2, Surefire G2L, Minimag after LED upgrade. Worst:Minimag before LED upgrade,Mag soli before and after LED upgrade,eGear PDL-1,this light was o.k. but I paid too much for it.

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