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    I have some continuing thoughts about the Tri-V...

    I had initially mentioned one factor of the Tri-V that had encouraged me to change the positioning of it in my hand during use. I always have used my 005 and 007 lights with the knob in the "up" position and manipulating the switch (knob) with my index finger and thumb. When I first had the chance to use one (Hickory Run State Park and fantasized Black Bear encounter--you'll have to read the appropriate thread) I wasn't as comfortable holding the Tri-V as the 007. I couldn't figure out why at the time but it was due the configuration of the three heads on the light. It wasn't until the other day (happy arrival birthday of my Tri-V) that I realized the need to grasp the light with the knob in the down position. After several days of use ( I clicked it once or twice to make sure it wasn't draining my new Surefire batteries--listening Dave? ) as my EDC, I now see that there has been a tremendous amount of effort in the "human engineering" of the light so that it is protected from possible loss of grasp at the same time positioned for instant use. The index finger wraps around the XP-G (reflector) head for a very secure grasp. Now Kid9p had pointed this out to me the other day but I wasn't listening--I'm agreeing now Ray!

    What I am finding about this light is the great versitility it offers in beam configuration, color (temperature), throw and intensity. It is rapidly spoiling me in providing me with so many, many options for challenging illumination opportunities. We all have encountered situations where we would like our light (the one which we are carrying mind you!) to do something just a bit differently. We are out for a walk at night and hear something and that light which we are using in the walk needs a bit more throw for investigating that strange sound ahead. We just dropped our key to the house and find we'd like a flood to search the ground in a wide perimeter. We're trying to see what color that house is to see what it may look like on our domicile. You get the idea--the right tool for the job. Until now we had to swipe a wagon to drag along all of the lights which we needed for all the various lighting situations we'd encounter. Now I feel as though one light serves me 90% of the time. "Why not 100% of the time Karl" you might ask? Well avid readers, despite all of the accolades we have been seeing on this light, it won't do EVERYTHING.

    Surprised to hear me say that? You shouldn't be. I have too many lights and I have some which will beat the Tri-V in performance in one specific application or another. If I drag out a Barn Burner I think we will all agree that it will "dust" the Tri-V in flood as well as intensity...then again, the Barn Burner sure looks strange attached to my belt now doesn't it? If I grab one the aspheric Mag lights or DEFTs no doubt their throw will leave the Tri-V behind....but, try to find that lost key without hours to spare searching the ground inch by inch and probably suffering retinal burns in the process! I can practically hide my Photon Fanatic "Killers" behind my ear but it will not serve me during a nightime walk. The clear point here is that no light will do everything the best but, this is, unquestionably, THE light which will do so many lumination tasks the best. That you can bet on.

    Dave just mentioned that none of the testers has mentioned the need for any software changes. So far, I agree fully. One of the weaknesses I have is in operating different lights with different mechanisms for accomplishing the lighting itself. One has a button, another a twist, a third some side do-hickey and many of them require some user intervention to make them work properly for that "customization" we all desire. The Tri-V follows the pattern of all of Data's lights with one rotary switch controlling the on and off function as well as intensity. Now, that same one switch controls emitter selection as well as intensity and (this is the BIG ADVANTAGE!) does so without need to return to school to seek out education in programming technology! Yahoo! In the space of about 5 minutes I was able to view the video and read along with the "instructions" and get my Tri-V to perform in the exact manner I wished---on that day. The very next day I changed the configuration and didn't need therapy after doing so! What I am saying is that "customizing" this light is as simple as operating it--open the battery compartment and twist the control knob and awaaaaay we go!

    More to come.....



    Karl

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLOCK18 View Post
    Hell I recently spent 50k on a LANGE ZEITWERK, so 2k for this light is a deal, I'm in line for one, please send it to me now.
    Pics please...the Lange Z is a phenomenal watch..makes my Rollies and Panerai's look like swatches...lol.

    Back on Topic...

    There is a market for these and Data is no fool....they'll sell...i'm diggin through the kid's piggy bank now....lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikes1 View Post
    Very exciteing news!

    Dave will there be some warning before the sales thread is posted?

    Mike
    I am still days away from being done with assembly. And at any rate there will be lots of notice.

    ShortArc and Mr Ted Bear just found two irregularities in the software. That will take additional time to track down and fix. I do already understand the bug that caused one of them and I am working on the second one.

    The testers are doing an outstanding job of working through this code. I could not do this without them.

    As we work through all of this I will continue to post the progress here.


    Cheers
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    Thanks Dave and beta men you are all without a doubt doing a fine job

    I will try to wait patiently I promise


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    Quote Originally Posted by mikes1 View Post
    Thanks Dave and beta men you are all without a doubt doing a fine job

    I will try to wait patiently I promise


    Mike
    You might as well wait until the Volcano Ash crisis has somewhat abated and the backlog of International mail to the UK has eased.

    I very much doubt that International mail services will return to normal before next week in any case.
    Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine

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    Quote Originally Posted by easilyled View Post
    You might as well wait until the Volcano Ash crisis has somewhat abated and the backlog of International mail to the UK has eased.

    I very much doubt that International mail services will return to normal before next week in any case.
    Good point I had not thought as far ahead as shipping

    Mike
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikes1 View Post
    Thanks Dave and beta men you are all without a doubt doing a fine job

    I will try to wait patiently I promise


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    Quote Originally Posted by Data View Post
    I call them "Five Guys" but they have not produced any hamburgers yet that I know of.



    I have a great mental picture

    Hey I could realy go for a burger right about now

    Mike
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    Hey Data

    I am not dead
    I didn't forget the TriV..I am simply a little busy with watches

    I bookmark this thread...later guy (I hope I could pick one )
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    Absolutely amazing work! Normally I am far from being the jealous type, but to the testers, color me green with envy!
    McGizmo & Malkoff fan!

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    Looking GOOD!!!!
    Trees don't grow on money either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaFABRICATA View Post
    Hi Karl!

    IMO all the pics everyone has posted so far look great!

    I am using a Canon SX110 IS.
    Probably what is refered to as a "point & shoot"
    It is almost always mounted on a tripod for a steady clean shot.
    A lot of time is also spent on trying different lighting to help bring out the details.
    I have that same exact camera, and really love it. Lots of manual adjustments that can be made, and mounted on tripod, it does very well, in addition to macro close-up shots.

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    What a wonderful toy this is !

    It would be nice if one can carry it in a pocket without worrying about scratching the dome lenses.



    light your lite . ...

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    Well, I guess I have become completely spoiled by the ultimate performance of this light and while carrying it my pocket (HORRORS!) may make it a tad more accessible, I believe the weight and configuration begs for a safer carry method (case on belt?) which still permits ready accessibility and yet greater protection. I'd kind of hate to cut back on the performance by using a lens in front of the aspherical or the MC-E.......as I said, I am spoiled at this point....


    Karl

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    octaf,
    As more details are put together, a silicone or rubber cap is planned to protect the lense. (see 1st post by Data) So far the plan is to have the cap fit "inside" the lip on the head around the aspheric and then go around and over the MC-E to protect the 2 most delicate lenses. A felt or microfiber backing may be added to the inside of the cap to help protect it further. The XP-G will be left open to allow instant access to a general flashlight beam. Dave designed it this way to help the Tri-V slide in and out of a holster without having the cap hang up on anything..


    For the time being, I have been using a Sandisc "Handstands" MP3 player zip case to keep the Tri-V free of dirt and dust. Fits perfectly! I took the plastic "knob" off the MP3 case and plan to sew a belt-loop on it to free up my pocket. I may have to design a better holster and find someone to make it for me. One bonus is that the pocket on the hip-belt of my new camping backpack is the perfect size to fit the Tri-V while in the MP3 case! Can't wait to take this on some trips later this year!

    The Tri-V has been getting LOTS of use and impressing everyone who sees it along the way!
    I just can't get over how awesome this light truely is! It gives me a good reason to get out of the house and go on some night walks.
    Being able to choose what type of beam I want, with a twist of the knob is unreal!

    I re-programed it again to have a sub-5mA using the MC-E on level one for digging around in my backpack or any other task where I want just a tiny bit-o-light.
    For level 2, the MC-E is set at 20mA and is great for walking around the house or anywhere else that just needs a lower level of general illumination.
    Level 3 is the XP-G set to 10mA and works well when I still want a lower level of light, but need a little bit of throw too. The beam is sooo smooth with the McR12!
    Level 4 is the XP-G again, but set to 1400mA for a nice high beam with excellent throw and spill! It's pretty amazing how much this emitter coupled with this small reflector will throw!
    Level 5 is the MC-E running at 1900mA for when I need a lot of light covering a large area. At first I felt the tint was almost too warm, but it's really starting to grow on me. It's very pleasing to the eye!
    Level 6 is the aspheric XR-E running at 1900mA as well. Great for really getting out there to see stuff at far distances! Last night, I was having fun with this one lighting up the trees on the other side of the highway. Once your eyes are adapted to the night, I could clearly see stuff in the tree line that most of my other lights just barely illuminate. For such a small lense it does a wonderful job casting that die out there! With so much pollen and other debris floating around in the air at night, you can clearly see the beam cast out of the aspheric at night!!...just looks sooo cool!!
    Again, programing this thing is so simple once you understand it! I've gotten very fast when it comes to changing a level or emitter location or combo. I just makes sense! Excellent UI!
    The way it fits in your hand is great! Having the XP-G head sticking out the side like it does helps it to fill the hand better than the 007 IMO. I've found that using either my thumb or flipping the light around and using my pointer finger to turn the knob works equally well and feels very natural!
    The Tri-V has, for me, lived up to the hype and then some! I have zero regrets about selling off my collection of surefires to fund this. By far, my favorite flashlight purchase to date!

    Dave, you and your team have really done an amazing job!!!.
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    Oh well, what can I say that hasn't been said so well?..

    You daMan data..
    Hell I still owe you from my last purchase of GPRA which I really appreciate.

    Like many I'll have to keep my eye on this thread.
    Do get some sleep, as you must burn a lot of hours assembling these beauties.

    Thanks
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    So much to learn, so little time.. ')
    DFW Texas Spring Fling CPF and LPF Flashapalooza, TBA? ')

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    Data,

    Thanks for taking the time to make it to PF14 this year, and for letting us see the Tri-V in person. It's an exceptional light, and I hope to become an owner. It was great meeting you too. What really blew me away were the 2 new additions to the Spy007 platform, the long throwing aspheric and especially the warm MCE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sithjedi333 View Post
    Data,

    Thanks for taking the time to make it to PF14 this year, and for letting us see the Tri-V in person. It's an exceptional light, and I hope to become an owner. It was great meeting you too. What really blew me away were the 2 new additions to the Spy007 platform, the long throwing aspheric and especially the warm MCE.
    It was great seeing you at PF14 too. What a great event Milky has going.


    BillyD, what did you do with that chunk of Ti?


    Cheers
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    Dave's tutorial(s) paid off! Now, even more complexity/flexibility/versitility is available to me with the Tri-V. Storing four separate distinct configurations each one accessible via a simple PU1 is now in my (and everyone's!) repertoire. Just think about it...three distinct emitters each with a distinct pattern in an infinite number of illumination levels in seven possible combinations of emitters all storable in four configurations! It boggles the mind when all of this is possible through one control knob..just think about it an EDC using light with this performance! The best of the best......


    Karl

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    The Tri-V has not left my pocket. I have been playing with different settings. I'm like a kid in a candy store. Right now it's at; 1= low flood, 2= high flood, 3= med reflector, 4= high reflector, 5= high reflector with aspherical, 6= high aspherical.

    I did show some friends over the weekend and they were like " all that from that little light".

    This is light is great, I just need a spare now
    Once things leave my hands I am not responsible for what happens.

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    spare..."spare"? "SPARE"????


    Karl

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    A spare one?

    Please wait until I've bought a Tri-V.

    Dirk

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    Quote Originally Posted by chipwillis View Post
    The Tri-V has not left my pocket. I have been playing with different settings. I'm like a kid in a candy store. Right now it's at; 1= low flood, 2= high flood, 3= med reflector, 4= high reflector, 5= high reflector with aspherical, 6= high aspherical.

    I did show some friends over the weekend and they were like " all that from that little light".

    This is light is great, I just need a spare now
    Dave, Please enforce a 1 Tri-V per customer limit, at least until there are a few happy customers out there.
    This will be the "Chipwillis Rule".

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    Whats the problem? Dave said that he'd keep building them as long as people want them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudi View Post
    Whats the problem? Dave said that he'd keep building them as long as people want them.
    The main problem is that he might want to retire in the next 20 years.
    Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine

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    I do need a spare, however it will take me awhile to save for another one, so you all will be safe for a little while.
    Once things leave my hands I am not responsible for what happens.

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    Hmmm. Dave has mentioned that the Tri-V is most difficult to build and, whether he will keep building them...? Time will tell, time will tell.....




    Karl

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    Maybe he'll offer a kit version later on and save the difficult assembly part for us!

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    Heh, heh, now there's an idea! We'll have to enroll in watching-making courses soon to anticipate such a possibility! I'm beginning to think a cross-section view of the Tri-V is approaching a Rolex in complexity! Yikes!!



    Karl

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    I'm thinking there may be minor "warranty" issues with a kit version...Please keep the reviews and impressions coming folks, great reading!

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