Zebralight H51F

[Ace12]

I recently sent Zebralight an email asking them if there was going to be an all flood model using the new XP-G. This is the reply I got.


Hi Mike,

There will be an H51f which produce a soft floody beam similar to the H501. The
H51f uses XP-G and a ground glass instead of UCL in the H51.

BR,
Lillian Xu

Sincerely,
ZebraLight, Inc.

[davidt1]

Good to hear, and I hope they also put the XP-G emitter in the regular H51 because the big hot spot will provide some flood for up-close task. The all flood lights are already all flood so XP-G is not needed there.

[Beacon of Light]

Interesting to see when it will be added to their website.

[defloyd77]

This is what I have been waiting for! Great to see that they'll be using the XP-G, hopefully they will also offer a neutral version.

[Zeruel]

Will it be a flashlight or a headlamp?

[branespload]

oh God, neutral options pleaseeee

good thing i waited before buying a 501

[defloyd77]

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[branespload]

What makes you think it would be a flashlight?

The "H" usually denotes headlamp, while "SC" means flashlight, right?

It seems to make more sense to be a headlamp...

[skyfire]

good news!

and the h51 is in the works.

wished they used warm/neutral XP-Gs in the H31w for the wider and brighter beam.

but im still going to get the h31w.

[defloyd77]

What makes you think it would be a flashlight?

The "H" usually denotes headlamp, while "SC" means flashlight, right?

It seems to make more sense to be a headlamp...

LOL my mistake, my eyes wanted to read SC51F for some reason

[psychbeat]

yeah Id LOVE an XP-G R2 4000K HL

its such a nice outdoor tint and still plenty bright...

[red02]

The "ground glass" implies that zebralight wont use the H501 type optics on the H51F. This probably means a super wide, Quark prism type beam with a less defined hotspot. I hope I'm wrong... I was hoping for a H501 XPG.

[Stevie]

Anyone know if there'll be a CR123 model? Presumably this would be the H31F??

[Illumination]

any idea when???

I wonder if this means no more H501s? (or at least no new ones with upgraded UI)

[Shorty66]

it wouldnt ,make any sense to produce two flood models of the h51 which the h501 actually is...
But why bother? The H51F is gonna be more efficient with the glas optics...

[davidt1]

it wouldnt ,make any sense to produce two flood models of the h51 which the h501 actually is...
But why bother? The H51F is gonna be more efficient with the glas optics...

That's exactly what I was thinking. I already have the H501. No need for another all flood light for me. What I need and want is the H51 with XP-G emitter. Why XP-G? The wide hot spot will provide some flood for close-up work, while the reflector will give more throw than the H501. And all this means is I only have to carry one light for both headlamp and flashlight duties.

[f22shift]

That's exactly what I was thinking. I already have the H501. No need for another all flood light for me. What I need and want is the H51 with XP-G emitter. Why XP-G? The wide hot spot will provide some flood for close-up work, while the reflector will give more throw than the H501. And all this means is I only have to carry one light for both headlamp and flashlight duties.

yes please, in xpg neutral too

[red02]

That's exactly what I was thinking. I already have the H501. No need for another all flood light for me. What I need and want is the H51 with XP-G emitter. Why XP-G? The wide hot spot will provide some flood for close-up work, while the reflector will give more throw than the H501. And all this means is I only have to carry one light for both headlamp and flashlight duties.

The H51 will give you just that.

Personally, I'd like the H51F to be all flood with more runtime & more output. The H501 is not perfect, and an XPG version would be a good upgrade.

EDIT:

Just got this from Zebralight: "The H51f will not use an optics but rather a ground glass instead of the UCL lens in the H51. The beam patten is VERY smooth, far better than what we can get with optics. We tried XP-G optics but not happy with the results so far."

Hopefully they recognize the need for an upgrade to the H501.

[davidt1]

yes please, in xpg neutral too

The increased efficiency would make an XP-G neutral very nice indeed. Although I am ready for any flavor of XP-G in the H51, I might just hold out for the neutral to see what the fuss is about.

[Ace12]

So what is the H51 you speak of. I see nothing about it on the ZL website.

[Illumination]

Let's hope they keeep the low low. All to often when companies upgrade emitters both the low and high get brighter. I'm all for a higher high, but let's keep the low just that, low. (the flood mitigates this somewhat, but not entirely)

[branespload]

So what is the H51 you speak of. I see nothing about it on the ZL website.

the H51 is going to be the reflectored headlamp that runs off 1xAA, like an AA version of the H31. It's not listed on the site because it's being released a few weeks-a month or so after the H31, which shipped out very recently.

[davidt1]

OK, I take back what I said. If Zebralight finds a way to take advantage of the efficiency of the XP-G emitter to make the H51F put out 120 lumens for 3 hours, I will buy one with neutral XP-G (assuming this is an all flood light). My H501 is about 1.5 year old anyway. It's time to update to the latest version, but only the if the latest version is clearly better.

[Beacon of Light]

What would be the difference in functionality between an updated H501 and a H51F? Seems like they'd be redundant. Is the H51F supposed to be the successor to the humble H50?

[davidt1]

What would be the difference in functionality between an updated H501 and a H51F? Seems like they'd be redundant. Is the H51F supposed to be the successor to the humble H50?

You can think of the H51 as the 2010 version of the H50 -- a new model for the new year. Car manufacturers make new models every year. Here is a suggestion to Zebralight:

Give the H51F a smaller flood and longer throw than the H501.

I would say a 40 degree flood with twice the throw of the H501 would be a perfect light for me.

[Beacon of Light]

You can think of the H51 as the 2010 version of the H50 -- a new model for the new year. Car manufacturers make new models every year. Here is a suggestion to Zebralight:

Give the H51F a smaller flood and longer throw than the H501.

I would say a 40 degree flood with twice the throw of the H501 would be a perfect light for me.

Sounds perfect to me as well. I only have the H-50 but 120 degrees is too much flood. Never tried the H50B or H501 with the 80 degree flood but 40 would be great.

[Shorty66]

You can think of the H51 as the 2010 version of the H50 -- a new model for the new year. Car manufacturers make new models every year.

No. you mean the H51F is the 2010 version of the H501.
H50 and h51 dont have any relationship.

[NickBose]

No. you mean the H51F is the 2010 version of the H501.
H50 and h51 dont have any relationship.

I think both (will) use AA batteries?

[davidt1]

No. you mean the H51F is the 2010 version of the H501.
H50 and h51 dont have any relationship.

You are right. I meant the H501.

To reiterate on my suggestion to Zebralight:

The new reflectored lights are nice, but a regular beam with hot spot just won't do as well as an all-flood beam for up-close tasks, not to mention the bouncing effect a regular beam has, which is not so visible with an all-flood beam. So how do you give an all-flood beam more throw? I suggest by taking something like the H501, make the beam smaller (but still all flood) and gives it an efficient emitter. Such a light would retain that so useful all-flood beam (albeit smaller) with some added throw.

[Beacon of Light]

Then what is the difference between the H51F and the H501 with the updated UI with moon mode? One has a reflector the other doesn't, but both are flood lights? Again seems redundant.