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    Quote Originally Posted by tanasit View Post
    I did try but it only lit up 2 of the 6 leds, even with fresh set of 18650 all led would come on for 2 seconds and back to 2 leds.
    That's a disappointment. I'm set up to run it on 3x18650s in an old Ellie. I guess the 10-30V operating range is marketing hyperbole.

    Back to the drawing board.

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    Donn, the specs i saw were 12 to 16 volts for part #63821-5 on Grote wep page, thats why i went with the C-4 Mag and 4-25500 DE, works perfect for the Trilliant or Q4509

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    Mac...from the website:

    TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS
    Material: Polycarbonate / Aluminum
    Finish: Black
    Bulb: LED 10V - 30V
    Voltage Amp: 12V - 1.4A ; 24V - .7A
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    Yes, i went there and saw the 10/30V, must have up-graded web, I bought mine about 8 mo. ago for a Ray O Vac sportsmans Par36 lantern converted to 12V

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    Quote Originally Posted by donn_ View Post
    That's a disappointment. I'm set up to run it on 3x18650s in an old Ellie. I guess the 10-30V operating range is marketing hyperbole.

    Back to the drawing board.
    Donn,

    I am sorry...since I saw your post above I went back and tried everything over again and found the 2 culprits: fauty switch and 2 bad cells. With the 3 level incan driver switch and a bad cell in the set, a few led lit up. But when I used a clicky, I get 5 out of 6 led lit up, 2 of which were brighter than the rest but still not bright. Now with 3 fully charged 18650 unprotected and even with incan driver switch, it works great even with flashing mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanasit View Post
    Now with 3 fully charged 18650 unprotected and even with incan driver switch, it works great even with flashing mode.
    Now you need to test it with 3 healthy fully recharged protected cell for long run to see at what voltage it will turn off and what will be run time.
    Is the brightness of 3 cells same as 4 cells?
    How about 6 IMR16340 in 3x17670 battery holder or 6x16350 in Megalennium?


    Quote Originally Posted by donn_ View Post
    I think he means 4x26500 side-by-side. A 4-chamber megalennium.
    That would be a giant body with 64mm (2.5") ID to accommodate bundle of 4 cells 26500 or 26650
    Please note that outside diameter of Elephant II extension tube is about 54mm (2.125")

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivemega View Post

    That would be a giant body with 64mm (2.5") ID to accommodate bundle of 4 cells 26500 or 26650
    Please note that outside diameter of Elephant II extension tube is about 54mm (2.125")
    I have huge hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donn_ View Post
    I have huge hands.
    LOL... you know what they say...
    I'm an excellent driver. Of course I don't have my underwear... I'm definitely not wearing my underwear

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    Quote Originally Posted by fivemega View Post
    Now you need to test it with 3 healthy fully recharged protected cell for long run to see at what voltage it will turn off and what will be run time.
    Is the brightness of 3 cells same as 4 cells?
    How about 6 IMR16340 in 3x17670 battery holder or 6x16350 in Megalennium?



    That would be a giant body with 64mm (2.5") ID to accommodate bundle of 4 cells 26500 or 26650
    Please note that outside diameter of Elephant II extension tube is about 54mm (2.125")
    I was actually thinking about the longer option for a 4 x 26500 Mega although either way is not very useful beyond running one of these monster Par36 bulbs in this specialized head. The 6v 25w Par36 bulb I have been running in my M6 with 2x26500 now seems puny in comparison to the mag setups of Donn and others so that was the impetus for my post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tanasit View Post
    Now with 3 fully charged 18650 unprotected and even with incan driver switch, it works great even with flashing mode.
    I just saw this..great news! Now if the truck parts supply I ordered the lamp from will just ship.

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    I got my Martek Q's today. It's brighter than the 4509, but the beam isn't as clean, close-range against the wall, as the 4509. It looks like a tiny hotspot surrounded by a star-like set of artifacts.

    I'll have to wait for darkness to see how it looks long-range.

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    Default Re: PAR36 4.5" M*g & M6 Head

    thank you fm,

    the head unit is perfect, the threads work great, look fantastic. i'm waiting on some landing lights to put her together. i was wondering if you were thinking of maybe a par 46,56 or maybe even a 64 big brother version?

    thanks again,
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    Default Re: PAR36 4.5" M*g & M6 Head

    Feeling flush?

    Here's a PAR36 LED lamp which outputs 2800 lumens at 36V, for only $470!

    It's got it's own built-in protection circuitry, which shuts down half the emitters in low-voltage conditions.

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    Donn: It's more flexible than you suggest. Your linke says it can take variable voltage of 9V to 36V and consumes 36W.
    Anything worth illuminating is worth illuminating to excess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donn_ View Post
    Feeling flush?

    Here's a PAR36 LED lamp which outputs 2800 lumens at 36V, for only $470!

    It's got it's own built-in protection circuitry, which shuts down half the emitters in low-voltage conditions.
    That is pretty amazing. Pricey, but amazing. Don't forget the Pro-Techs Coating. If I liked LED's more, I would get it.

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    Any test data on overdriving the GE 4509 or Q4509 or Martek 4509Q? My bench supply is weak and can't deliver the current that these PAR36s demand.

    I installed a GE 4509 in a 4D Mag loaded with 5xIMR26500 (this was a 4D Mag623 mod). The light is regulated at 13.0V by a JimmyM JM-PhD-D1 regulator. It's quite the light saber.

    I have to do an outdoor comparison between this 4D Mag4509 vs 4D Mag1909 (11.8V) vs 4D Mag440 (18.0V). All are regulated and all use 5xIMR26500.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Case View Post

    I have to do an outdoor comparison between this 4D Mag4509 vs 4D Mag1909 (11.8V) vs 4D Mag440 (18.0V). All are regulated and all use 5xIMR26500.

    Would like to see the light saber vs others

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    Default Re: PAR36 4.5" M*g & M6 Head

    The Trilliant lamp just arrived, and it's excellent! Very bright on 3x 18650, and it works flawlessly with the D2Flex switch. 5 levels from ultra-low to max.




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    Whew! No comparison!

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    Default Re: PAR36 4.5" M*g & M6 Head

    very nice. i just picked up a switch today from radio shack to try to fit in a maglite. i got a 4509 and a 4596 to try.
    it's just different on my planet..

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    I added outdoor shots for an Osram 64440IRC in an FM 2.5" Throwmaster.

    Maybe I'll get around to comparing a 4D Mag623 regulated at 15.5V using a Throwmaster, a 2D Mag ROP 3854H with an FM SMO Ver2 Deep Reflector and running 6xAA Eneloops in an mdocod holder, a WA1111 regulated at 7.4V in an FM VLOP Ver2 Deep Reflector, a WA1274 in a KT4 TH and regulated at 8.0V by a PhD-M6, an MZXR-7 (7xXRE R2) driven by a Blue Shark set to 810mA drive, a Seoul P4 Mag mod (stock smooth Mag reflector) driven at 1000mA, and a Seoul P7 Mag mod (KD V3.1 15mm opening MOP reflector) driven at 2800mA.

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    Default Re: PAR36 4.5" M*g & M6 Head

    Mine is now complete. I decided I wanted a nice big host to balance the huge head. Easy done, we had 4D Mags a plenty at the summer sales this year.

    4D host with 12AA FM battery carrier and 12 Sanyo HR 1700mAh cells.

    Bulb is GE H7604

    Bulb tower cut off, switch bypassed with auto headlight relay, bulb damped with 1 ohm NTC.



    Thanks FM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_torch View Post
    MO incoming for #18 Black M*g head as per PM send to you yesterday.
    I haven't receive any payment yet.
    Do you still want this?
    Please let me know as soon as possible.

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    If he doesn't want it, Varooj, I'll call backup.

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    Default Re: PAR36 4.5" M*g & M6 Head

    I will be double back up

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    It is not making meaning to put a third backup now yet

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    Default Re: PAR36 4.5" M*g & M6 Head

    FM PAR36 inspired me to make a PAR46 MagDaddy, Hi/Lo two levels. .
    GE H7680 HIR, 275KCP bulb. actual performance on 4x LiFePo4 cells(13.5V/6.5Amp): >200,000lux @ 1 meter
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...d.php?t=289329


    Last edited by ma_sha1; 08-26-2010 at 08:09 PM.
    My Mods.. http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...5&postcount=78
    Hobby only, I don't do custom mods as a service, thanks for understanding.

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    Love it.

    (just wait until Juggernaut sees this)

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    I received the Wide Flood replacement for the Trilliant lamp yesterday. It's a lightly diffused clear polycarbonate lens, and it makes for one mighty mule!



    Grote part #94310

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